What are the new visa extension requirements at the Bluport immigration office in Hua Hin regarding the TM30?

@Max **********

welcome 👍

@Alex ******

theoretically, yes you can

@Eugene ****

ya should buy some lottery tickets for the friday draw 😅

@Eugene ****

that's a good story for your book, but it is not the standard thing. In case your are a long term resident and return to the same accommodation after a trip abroad, many Immigrations are waiving your duty for a new TM30. . . . . let me rest assured you, it has absolutely nothing to do with the vehicle of travel you were using

@Eugene ****

the change took place pre-Covid under Prayut. It was all over the news

@Eugene ****

you need TM30 in order to receive a 30-days tourist extension at most Immigration offices. This rule has been there all the years since 1976 but was handled relaxed on tourists. A couple of months ago Immigration started to tighten it, mainly because of the rise of illegal AirBnB rentals. The obvious reason why they start enforcing a law from 1976, I have commented above on in this thread. . . . . It does NOT f..g matter how you entered Thailand - it could have been by Air, land or sea, all that matters is if "your" Immigration wants to see the TM30 before they are willing to accept your application . . Actually, many countries are introducing rules against these illegal AirBnB tax evaders . . . in many countries, they have become a nuisance

@Nongnuch *******

can TM30 turned in online? Or do you have to show up at Immigration personally?

@Mathias ******

if the accommodation has been registered in the online TM30 system, all you need is the login-name and the password. Then you could file your TM30 by yourself. However if your landlord or house owner keeps this a secret from you, you have no chance but to ask him to register you on his own behalf within 24 hours after you arrived at the accommodation

@Nongnuch *******

that means, I can register my home in the TM30 system at the Immigration office and file the TM30 online for visitors staying at my home within 24 hours of their arrival. Correct?

@Mathias ******

if you have a blue housebook for your home, you can register it in the TM30 system

@Nongnuch *******

thank you for advice!

@Eugene ****

your address needs to

Be reported no matter if it’s for a day or 10 years and it’s up to the office you use for an extension rather you need it or not

@Mark ********

depends on where she will be living. If in a hotel, the hotel will do the TM30 automatically for her. If she is gonna live in a free private or rented accommodation, the landlord/houseowner will have to report her TM30

@Nongnuch *******

Hotel. So they will do a TM30. But when she goes to extend does the hotel give her the TM30 to take with her?

@Mark ********

she won't need anything, as Immigration will see on their computer that she has been properly reported TM30. She could, to be absolutely sure, ask the hotel for a screenshot printout of the reporting. But rest asured she won't need anything

Great! Thanks!

@Mark ********

and TM30!!!

@Stéfan *******

you have observed correctly . . . . actually is was under Prayut when Immigration "elements" started to complain about the lasciviousness of hotels and resorts, and vowed to end this. And the sheer rising numbers of illegally short term rent-outs contributed a fine argument . .

@Stéfan *******

well word will go around fast that AirBnB is playing a foul game. Anyone who rents an AirBnB accommodation for less than 30 days should ask the renter for a TM30 registration and a screenshot proof of it before paying up anything to these tax evaders

@Nongnuch *******

I don't think these are things that tourists are aware of, care for, or should be dragged into. It's akin to asking a bar if they have an alcohol license. The system is flawed, and it's the responsibility of the government. If they can't apply their own regulation, then there's a problem. That said, the hotel I stayed at inquired why I didn't tell them I was extending my stay, as immigration called them. It's utterly absurd, but doesn't surprise me. Reminds me of being scolded by police officers after a robbery in Chiang Mai. Clowns.

@Stéfan *******

you are absolutely right. But this is Thailand. TIT. Not so easy to understand. I learned to stop questioning it and follow the flow long ago. Myself I once had to pay the 2000.- THB fine for a late TM30, with my landlord, a policeman, standing next to it. Both, the policeman and the Immigration lady officer, showed me their "Thai Smile". You learn how to handle it , ,means, chuck down your anger, count your losses and move on

@Nongnuch *******

I'm a frequent visitor to Thailand and love the place regardless of its flaws. I have no choice but to take what you said into account. Thanks for the information.

@Tyler ******

Wasnt difficult just being married is enough and providing correct paperwork. You get the yellow book and pink ID same time. As usual different offices different requirements so check your local amphur

@Nick ***********

not with pink ID card you dont need certificate of residence

@Ron *****************

never heard of TM 30 being scrapped. Even during covid my office (samat sakorn) insisted on it. Even though my ID is in Samat Sakorn

@Michael *******

not in Petchabun. Since Covid no need for the TM 30 and after I got my pink ID and yellow book they said that according to the law I don't need to complete the TM 30 anymore as the Yellow book serves as your permanent address in Thailand. Difference does exist between offices and this seems to be one.

@Ron *****************

Would love to see that law

@Sandeep ******

thank you for the cheers

Immigration told my landlord on the phone about his duties. So the next day the landlord went to Immigration together with me, and completed the TM30. . . . . . and if your hotel has registered you by TM30, you do NOT need any added physical proof because Immigration can see the completed TM30 on their central computer

@Nongnuch *******

I'm sure it's nothing to do with racism & corruption... 🤡

@Jody ******

yeah once in a while we hear about that corruption thing 😅 😎

@Nongnuch *******

Play Third World games, win Third World prizes...

🏆 🤡

@Jody ******

it's happening in the First world, too. Just on a much higher level among corporations and politicians

@Nongnuch *******

That true.

It's good to speak against it though, because it hurts a country! Any person who really loves their country should be against corruption.

@Nongnuch *******

they did my 1y extension yesterday, without tm30...

@Pat ****

then you were either very lucky, or you already have a TM30 registration and you missed to notice it. Are there two pieces of paper clipped into your passport? One is the 90-days report notice, and the other one would be the TM30

@Nongnuch *******

I never dit a TM30 and I have only the 90 days report paper... but I have a yellow book .. SO maybe I was lucky again;-).

@Pat ****

well, I got a yellow book too, and can prove my residence, but my Immigration nevertheless stapled the TM30 receipt into my passport. Different Immigrations, different procedures. You ARE definitely TM30 registered or you would NOT have received the Extension Of Stay Permit 🙂 this is absolutely NOT possible, regardless which Immigration office of the 85 offices in Thailand issued your retirement extension

@Nongnuch *******

in any case i did never register, also not last week when i came back to Thailand...

@Pat ****

this also is upon the sole discretion of your Immigration, if they accept you coming back from abroad to the same address. Some offices want a new report, others waive it

@Nongnuch *******

will anyway try to register on the site and than do TM30, better to prevent..

@Klee *************

absolutely correct. It's happening. It has been a law since 1976. It just wasn't enforced on tourists, why would they, as they always were TM30 registered by the hotels and guesthouses and resorts. . . . . . However now more and more tourists are renting illegal AirBnB Condos, and these landlords are avoiding TM30 and avoiding tax. It is one of the reasons TM30 will be asked for a 30 days tourist extension

@Klee *************

Your friend is responsible for reporting your TM30 and the fine if it wasn’t done in time

@Klee *************

well if your friend rents out long term )more than 30 days) it is legal to do so. But many AirBnB rent out UNDER 30 days which is illegal, unless they hold a hotel licence and register their tenants

@Klee *************

then Immigration should see it on their computer. For your safety you could ask your friend for a screenshot print out, and put this between your passport pages.

@Brown *******

My landlord is not a prick, every time I return he does my TM30 within 24 hours and gives me a printout. Maybe you should have stayed in a Western country where you could complain about the cost of living.

@Wayne ****

is English your first or second language?

@Brown *******

Both 😜

@Wayne ****

He just explained it to you politely & you talk like that to the guy? What's that about..?

It's nothing to do with "cost of living". It's about corrupt bias.

@Jody ******

What calling the landlord a prick!!!!!! FFS, are you for real.

@Wayne ****

I didn't call your landlord a prik. I was referring to those to lazy to do TM30s ffs

@Jody ******

💋

@Jody ******

I'm giving him the benefit of the doubt he's english ain't too good and has taken the your landlord literally that I was saying he's was

@Brown *******

Sounds like he is in love with his landlord if that's the case! He's probably just another bell-end...

@Jody ******

🤡

@Jody ******

yes most likely lol.

@Steve *********

So not everyone else then?