Answered7 years ago
What are the challenges in obtaining a non-O dependent visa extension for teachers in Thailand?
Hi,
Just wanted to give people an update about the non o dependents extension. I have had this for 1 year and applied for further extension last week. I have all the stated documents that are required as per online and the offices own checklist.
They have refused my extension on the basis that they now want to see my degree, even though I'm applying for the non o dependents extension. They also want it notarized /certified by London and UK Thai embassy in London (as per the requirements for the non b visa in teaching). I am working as a teacher in an int school. They said that because I'm a teacher they want these things.
Plus, they also require the mother of my child to attend imm office in person. We're divorced and I have a court order showing joint custody.
I tried all reasonable explanations. Explained were divorced, court order from family court etc. And that I satisfy their written requirements for the non o dependents extension. The IO said I should spy for the non b if I can't satisfy these new requirements.
Just giving some new info here. I suspect they're just being awkward with me. But just in case they're not, maybe other imm offices may start to do this. So parents of half Thai children, please be aware.
Just wanted to give people an update about the non o dependents extension. I have had this for 1 year and applied for further extension last week. I have all the stated documents that are required as per online and the offices own checklist.
They have refused my extension on the basis that they now want to see my degree, even though I'm applying for the non o dependents extension. They also want it notarized /certified by London and UK Thai embassy in London (as per the requirements for the non b visa in teaching). I am working as a teacher in an int school. They said that because I'm a teacher they want these things.
Plus, they also require the mother of my child to attend imm office in person. We're divorced and I have a court order showing joint custody.
I tried all reasonable explanations. Explained were divorced, court order from family court etc. And that I satisfy their written requirements for the non o dependents extension. The IO said I should spy for the non b if I can't satisfy these new requirements.
Just giving some new info here. I suspect they're just being awkward with me. But just in case they're not, maybe other imm offices may start to do this. So parents of half Thai children, please be aware.
Answer summary
A user provided an update about their experience with the non-O dependent visa extension process in Thailand, particularly for teachers. Despite following all stated requirements, their extension was denied because the immigration office requested additional documents, including a notarized degree and the presence of the child's mother (their ex-wife) at the office. The request seemed unwarranted as the OP met all written requirements. Other commenters discussed related teaching credential requirements, the complexities involving custody, and the need for documentation in such circumstances.
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Robert *******
As this is the same story as a few days ago, for those who like to read
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I close the commenting. Only update is that the OP could not find anyone able to explain the complaint procedure, or show me where someone senios sits. And that is something you have to find for yourself, or bring somebody with you who speak enough Thai to find a senior officer.**********
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6/ I close the commenting. Only update is that the OP could not find anyone able to explain the complaint procedure, or show me where someone senios sits. And that is something you have to find for yourself, or bring somebody with you who speak enough Thai to find a senior officer.David ************
English like, “I going to Korat” “Senios” and “explained were divorced”. No wonder they ask for teaching credentials. Anyway isn’t it a requirement to have a degree to teach in Thailand ?
David ************
Paul Moffatt That’s what happens when you retire at 45... lazy Brain... Anyway, nice edit, or I’m seeing things.
David ************
@Paul ********
I was just taking my turn. I do the same thing all the time. Anyway don’t sweat it, I meet people all the time teaching with no degree. Just curious. What would be the disadvantage of applying for the teaching VISA over the dependent VISA. I would think he would be killing two birds with one stone.
Paul *********
OPWhere did I even type "I going to korat" or "senios"? Seems like you might be going a bit senile there David.
Paul *********
OP@David ***********
rushing to type things out on my phone leads to spelling errors.. Oh dear the tragedy. It is a requirement to have a degree to teach. It's not a requirement to have a degree to get an extension of stay to look after my child.Larry ******
The requirement for working as a teacher in Thailand is that you have a university degree. That is why they are asking to see it.
Larry ******
@Robin *********
maybe their ultimate goal?
Robin **********
@Kru ******
of course they are but then that has less security here as soon as he’s job ends he’s got to get out the country.Paul *********
OPThat's correct. But how can they just make things up to deny a legitimate non o dependents extension?
Larry ******
@Paul ********
it looks like they're trying to get you to switch to a non-b. Maybe that's why they're being difficult.Paul *********
OPApplying for dependents extension is separate from my work. That is checked by labour office then. I don't see how imm can change the laws themselves.
Paul *********
OP@Kru ******
thays what they're claiming. But where does it say that in the law or stated requirements anywhere?
Tony ********
Why don't you get a non B if you're working?
Dominic *****
@Daryl *****
Now, that is a myth, especially in this group, which is to give people enough information to DIY.
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@Dominic ****
in Thailand. Anything legal requires a Thai personDominic *****
@Daryl *****
Just read the original post carefully. All listed requirements were fulfilled, he was asked for an unlisted requirement for Non-O extension for taking care of half-Thai child, for which he has legal guardianship by a court order.Daryl ******
@Dominic ****
a child requires a guardian. In this case, the mother because she is ThaiDominic *****
@Daryl *****
he is dependent on his child here.Daryl ******
@Dominic ****
so Non-O you will be dependent on your spouse. In this case the ex-wifeDominic *****
@Tony *******
Non-B would be dependent on the sponsor - end the job, no right to stay. He already knows he qualifies for the Non-O, it’s not his first and the rules haven’t officially changed.
Paul ********
Thais for you...want our money but not our physical presence
Warren ********
Thanks for post. I going korat immigration for non o thai child first time in a few months....
They told me to marry and use a married visa extension as it's not as difficult for them.
Well that's nice for them but I meet all the requirements and I not getting married yet.....so will be fun times making them happy.
The boss out there told us both it's very simple....the IO tells me very difficult
Good times ahead
They told me to marry and use a married visa extension as it's not as difficult for them.
Well that's nice for them but I meet all the requirements and I not getting married yet.....so will be fun times making them happy.
The boss out there told us both it's very simple....the IO tells me very difficult
Good times ahead
Warren ********
Yes that's all sorted
Lloyd ********
@Warren *******
Have you been to family court to legitimize your child ?
Erik ***********
File an official compliant against the incompetent IO.
Bennie *******
@Erik **********
you think they care? 🤔
James ********
@Erik **********
I strongly disagree.Erik ***********
@James *******
well, and I say stop being so Thai. If something is wrong always complain and complain again. Who cares if we are guests in Thailand. Since we/the guests are the once upholding Thailand economy and also we should teach them what is correct public government policy. If one can and one always can go as high as posible with once complain. Maybe file something in the court as well.James ********
Erik Nordkvist NEVER A GOOD IDEA...we are guests in Thailand. Stir the pot and you will not like outcomes now or in future...regardless of what is seemingly right.
Paul *********
OPHow? What would the ombudsman be able to to about it? As they always say, everything is at the discretion of the IO there and then
Erik ***********
@Paul ********
call the ombudsmanPaul *********
OP@Erik **********
and actually when I kept questioning the IO she got annoyed with me, and put me to the desk next to hers to siesk with what seemed like her immediate boss. He said the exact same things as she did re the documents requiredPaul *********
OP#senior
Paul *********
OP@Erik **********
I couldn't find anyone able to explain the complaint procedure, or show me where someone senios sits
Bill *******
Which immigration office did this happen in? Chang Wattana?
Paul *********
OP@Bill ******
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