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Is the 99-year land lease and 10-year tourist visa proposal in Thailand legitimate or just speculation?
Seen this posted in a Koh Chang group , any idea if it’s actually legitimate or in the works?
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The discussion revolves around the legitimacy of proposals for a 99-year land lease and a 10-year tourist visa in Thailand. While several commenters express skepticism about the practicality and implementation of the 99-year lease, particularly for residential purposes, there is a consensus that current regulations typically allow for shorter lease terms. The proposal seems to predominantly aim at commercial interests rather than residential buyers. Comments reveal mixed feelings about tourism, with some participants noting that changes in visa regulations could impact visitor numbers and the economy. Some believe these proposals are mere speculation or media hype, while others hope for more solid long-term agreements.
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Craig *******
Even more longterm visitors. More people.
Tommy ********
Don’t care, I’m not paying for 3rd world dogshit.
Ban Israelis from the entire country and ban boomers from pattaya (they can live in jomtien)
Ban Israelis from the entire country and ban boomers from pattaya (they can live in jomtien)
Stig *********************
1.2 billion $
John ********
I don't believe a word of it they will never give you any 99 years for Jo blogs for a house
Elías ********
The 10 year tourist visa isn't like a game changer, or at least not a new idea. The US tourist visa has been always a 10-year one. However, it only allows stays of up to 6 months at a time, maximum, and of course, working is banned. I'd assume it'd be the same, with officers (either in the US or here in Thailand) not letting the people in if they come for 6 months stays back to back year after year.
Adam *****
There is a 10 year tourist visa existing already. It's called the Elite Visa :) unfortunately many of us are unable or unwilling to pay the fee.
Oo *****
Not free guys. If the price is not silly, I will go for it.
Duncan *******
It's a proposal, nothing more or less, but unfortunately half of the Thai media were seemingly dropped on their heads as children and don't understand what a proposal is.
Alf **
@Duncan ******
correct pure speculation.
Bernhard ***********
Back and forth they crew them self every couple months they change
Henrik *****
Rumours only
Benjamin *********
Link please ?
ຈອນ ****************
I would do it
Andy **********
If it does happen they're going to make it so not worth it your head will spin lol
Lucas **********
Baht to strong
Brandon ************
For anyone that doesn't keep up with the news, the 99-year lease proposal is not new. It's the same proposal from many months ago. The Thai government and the news like to throw out tons of these and nothing ever happens. But the proposal is NOT for people to build houses. It's for the Thai government to lease land to commercial interests to build factories and other industries, and may possibly be related to the casino plans. After 99 years the land reverts back to the Thai government.
Daniel **********
That would be incredible
Corrine ******
Does Thailand gov know about this?
Ivan *******
No way...
Richard **************
They announced it and will watch and see if it gets any traction, then they'll start the program
Mel *********
OP@Richard *************
I’m hoping for the 99 year lease 🙏
Jesper *******
99yrs lease is not going to happen...theoretically 30yrs and after extent another 30yrs and what if the owner doesn't want to extent? Ppl who are here long enough will know spreading fake news is unwanted
Benjamin *********
@Jesper ******
don’t be toxic. You don’t know
Terje ***************
@Jesper ******
You can already have a 30 years landlease, with a possible 90 years extention, which is even possible to transfer to your kids.Jesper *******
@Terje **************
possible? Your kids are willing to take the transfer BUT the owner's kid may not want to lease.....
Gerhard **********
@Terje **************
You really dont understand how Thailand works,all the lies to scam farangs.Brandon ************
@Terje **************
Lawyers say what will get your business. They could care less what happens in 30 years from now. Just look at all the lawyers who say setting up a nominee company and even providing the nominees for owning a house is legal. Until the investigators come calling.Terje ***************
@Brandon ***********
Lawyers says otherwise. But believe what you want.Brandon ************
@Terje **************
the only thing that's legal is a 30 year lease. Anything other than that is irrelevant. They can decide not to renew after 30 years even if there's a contract that says they will, because that's not a legal contract. Maximum lease is 30 years period.Jesper *******
@Terje **************
This is thailand....you can carry on believe what u believe.....cheersTerje ***************
@Jesper ******
They have to if it's in the contract.Mel *********
OP@Jesper ******
that’s why I’m asking. The current 30 year with “promise” to extend doesn’t work for me, as exactly as you stated, the owner can change their mind. So was curious if any one knew if this would happen. It would be nice if it did tho!Jesper *******
@Mel ********
nobody can answer that when u go 30yrs back there was no FB yet
Steve *******
You could have clicked the link and seen the sources instead of sharing a screenshot so we could all read the article, too.
Michael *******
@Steve ******
or you could have said Steve, " could you kindly pass on the link "Mel *********
OP@Steve ******
I’m not sure if the sources are legit. That’s why I was asking ☺️Steve *******
@Mel ********
thank you!Mel *********
OP@Steve ******
sorry. Here it is. *****************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************
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Colin ********
You can already purchase a, 99 year lease, to my knowledge, and isn't there a LTV for 10 years? And doesn't the, Privilege club offer one?
Michael ********
@Colin *******
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1/phuket-courts-void-ecured-leases-used-by-foreignersMichael ********
@Colin *******
there is no 99 year lease, some projects were promising 30 + 30 + 30 but recent court case showed only the 30 year lease was legal and its entirely up to the owner if they want to renewBenjamin *********
@Colin *******
no you can’tAlf **
@Colin *******
yes a thai can lease land on a 99 year basis but not a non thaiColin ********
A foreigner cannot own land but can lease
Colin ********
@A**
my friend is, English
Chizel *******
@Colin *******
yes I thought there was 30yrs or an option for lifetime already now.Mel *********
OP@Colin *******
perhaps. I am just stating what I’ve seen personally!Mel *********
OP@Colin *******
most I’ve seen are 30 year lease with some “promise“ to extend after but it’s not guaranteed and if the owner dies the heir to their will can easily deny the extension. I’d like a solid 99 year agreement! The tourist visa part doesn’t make much sense tho as you are correct it’s really an LTR visa! lol 🤣Colin ********
@Mel ********
I'm sure my friend got his wife to lease the land and property to him on a, 99 year lease but I could be wrongBrandon ************
@Colin *******
doesn't matter what they got. 30 years is the maximum. And the owner can withdraw after 30 years even if there's a contract that states more
Richard ***************
How would that boost the economy? I don’t think a tourist is staying for 10 years!
Kyle ********
@Richard **************
If it’s multi-entry, just reduces boarder runs and time restrictions on those that come and go
John *********
@Richard **************
enough after 2 weeks
Robert *********
@Richard **************
many come for six monthsBrandon ************
@Mel ********
that's not for you. The 99-year lease plan is the same one they floated months ago. It's only for commercial entities that want to build factories and such. It's only for government land and reverts back to the government after 99 years. It's not for people to build houses for themselves.Mel *********
OP@Brandon ***********
ahhh ok ok 👍 gotcha. That’s too bad. Was hoping for residential 😮💨Richard ***************
Lol exactly! They are common but not really an incentive IMHO!
Mel *********
OP@Richard **************
ya I was more interested in the 99 year lease part!
Travis *******
Bo Andersen I moved here at 36.... I would rather not buy a house again at 66.
Mel *********
OPBo Andersen 🤣. Never know! ..
But seriously, I’m hoping you can write something in the lease that it can be passed on to children! 👧🏻.
But seriously, I’m hoping you can write something in the lease that it can be passed on to children! 👧🏻.
David *********
If they would stop changing things all the time people would come
Ivan *******
@David ********
Changing things all the time would actually kill tourism! But there is other destination too
Si ********
@David ********
nearly 12 million have come already this year.
Richard ***********
@Si *******
is look how that number has been worked out visa runs etc
Alf **
TIT
Alf **
Will never happen thailand will not allow expats to have 99 year leases on land - NEVER
Alf **
@Phil *****
sorry Phil, but completely wrong. The only 10 year visa is the LTRV visa which is specifically designed for wealthy retirees or wealthy global citizens. You need to earn 80,000 USD minimum. And having just received mine on the 7th May there was no requirement to hold any amount of money on an account. I have received mine and am happy but definitely not happy with this schizophrenic government who are now changing the tax remittance rules for thais only. Not expats. There are better visas like Vietnams 10 year golden visa. But as I'm in a serious relationship and buying land and retiring here forever, it doesn't matter.
Peter *********
@Alf *
LTR holders are exempt from Thai tax
Oliver **********
@A**
sorry but you're the one who is "completely wrong." The non immigrant O-X is a ten year visa. Much older than the new LTR. And how could anyone possibly know if Vietnam's 10 year visa is better if the requirements and benefits haven't been announced yet?
Munly *******
@A**
no it's all tax residents. Thai or foriegner
Ian **********
@A**
why are you concerned about foreign income tax for non-Expats if you have a LTR-Visa - Wealthy Pensioner (assuming this is your category). This visa brings tax exemption from the recent foreign income tax changes (Jan 1st 2024) does it not?Alf **
@Ian *********
not entirely. As an LTRV holder you will still pay taxes on money if you bring it in the year it was earned. I was in Ireland when the rule came in and only know about TIN numbers when I helped a friend open a company. Which of course needed a TIN number. Not having heard the term before I asked my lawyer. They told me I needed one too. So I had to pay a massive amount of tax in 2024. And as I need to live I also be bringing in (although not as much) in 2025 which will be taxed in 2026. So having an LTRV does not exempt you from taxes if you remit the funds in the same year that they are earned.
Nick **********
@A**
At this moment it is only a draft for an ammendment in the law. Nothing is sure yet. But most importantly : that it would only apply for Thai nationals and not to foreign tax residents is just an assumption. That's how communication and 'news' works : by the time you make an interpretation of something what a news outlet wrote based on what someone expressed it, a lot gets twisted. I'm extremely confident that any amendment in tax law will apply to tax-residents in general, not limited to "Thai only". Even on official websites they use wrong English wording or wrong terminology.Alf **
@Nick *********
TIT
Simon ********
@Ph**
3 million is about 80,00 euros
Jeremy ********
That 99 year lease will be a game changer
Mel *********
OP@Jeremy *******
exactly! That’s what I’m hoping for! Even 60 year would better then 30! Fingers crossed 🤞🏽Benjamin *********
@Mel ********
agree I will be more than happy with a 60 years lease for a villaAlf **
Unlikely
Phil ******
@Alf *
no it’s trueAlf **
Believe me I have a dozen lawyers and tax experts working for me
Alf **
Just see Brandon's reply he's more an expert than my damned lawyers TIT
Alf **
@Phil *****
there are no present plans to allow 99 year leases that's speculationAlf **
@Phil *****
see my answer above and I would not believe everything you read or Google.
David ******
You'll have to check e visa
Stuart *********
Media speculation at this point. It may happen. Possibly won’t.
Mel *********
OP@Stuart ********
ok that’s what I thought, I was hoping it was actually in the works! lol 🤣Activity
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