Answered2 years ago
How do I apply for a NON-O visa and get my marriage certificate notarized for immigration in Thailand?
Hi my husband (US citizen) married with me (thai citizen) in USA and we have certificate in USA. We are would like to do non-o visa. I am wondering how can i apply got Kor ror22? Married certificate need to notary in Thai embassy in USA only or can US embassy in Thailand do for this issue?
If it is difficult to get notary in Thailand, can we marry in Thailand again? But i am not sure how to find documents for 6.1.3. Any recommendations?
If it is difficult to get notary in Thailand, can we marry in Thailand again? But i am not sure how to find documents for 6.1.3. Any recommendations?
Answer summary
The individual seeks guidance on applying for a Kor Ror 22 to obtain a NON-O visa, after marrying a US citizen in the USA. They wonder if the marriage certificate needs to be notarized only by the Thai embassy in the USA or if the US embassy in Thailand can assist. Comments from the community provide insights into the necessary certification steps, including notarization and registration at local Thai offices, as well as caution regarding translation issues. Re-marriage in Thailand is discouraged as it can complicate the existing marriage status.
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Kullapat *****
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Doug *********
A point to bear in mind: When your husband's name is translated into Thai it most likely can be spelled in different ways (I'm sure you know this). Make sure it sounds right. It is important to remember how it is spelled, and for obvious reasons, should be spelled in exactly the same way on any document(s) that requires it.
Sunida **************
OP@Doug ********
i hope i can get translation because all of translations told me to get notarized from thai embassy in usa and we do not live in usaDoug *********
@Sunida *************
Yes, I believe the US Embassy in Thailand is no longer offering that service. So it means a trip to the US. However, you could try: 1 giving someone in the US power of attorney (and your original marriage certificate) to see if they could do it, or 2 contact a US Embassy in a country close to Thailand to see if it could be done there. You would still need to have the document legalized by MFA in Thailand, and then go to a marriage office or local amphur with all documents, and witnesses, to get your Kor Ror 22. Hope this helps.Sunida **************
OP@Doug ********
i didDoug *********
@Sunida *************
DM meSunida **************
OP@Doug ********
i try everything. It is too difficult to go and get notary in usa because we won’t live in usa and process takes 3 monthsPom ********
We have to send our marriage license to be certified in the US to 4 different places:
Step 1. Originated county where we got married
Step 2. State office
Step 3. US State Department.
Step 4. Thai Embassy.
Took 3 months to get all signatures completed.
Step 1. Originated county where we got married
Step 2. State office
Step 3. US State Department.
Step 4. Thai Embassy.
Took 3 months to get all signatures completed.
Henry ********
@Pom *******
@Sunida *************
Sunida, I am now going through this process and it is exactly the steps you need. I just want to add that the since the US (federal) State Department stamp in step #3 is in DC, you can (have to?) use the Thai Embassy in DC to certify that stamp, not your closest Thai consulate.
I am currently working with a service called Monument Visa (
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) that offers a Thailand document legalization service. I went to my local county and got the certified copy of the license and then took it to my state's Secretary of State for the authentication stamp. Then I mailed it to Monument Visa who will walk it into the State Department (2-3 weeks instead of 6+) and then pick it up and walk it over to the Thai Embassy, then pick it up and mail it to me. Saves time and hassle, and worth the extra costs ($125 less fees, so actually pretty reasonable).Good luck!
Sunida **************
OP@Henry *******
i am glad u understand well. Do u do in USA? Our problem, we did not live in USA. We married in Florida. That why i wonder how we can process everything for 3 months when we live in thailand 😓Henry ********
@Sunida *************
I'm no expert here but you would need a Florida courier service to get a certified copy of your marriage certificate, have it Authenticated for Thailand by the Florida officials (usually secretary of state), then do the part above (us state department and Thai embassy). Big pain in the... and expensive to fix when you aren't there now.Good luck, wishing you success!
Pom ********
@Henry *******
good to know it worked out for you.Sunida **************
OPPom ********
@Sunida *************
we got it done before moving to Thailand. I researched on Thai embassy and US State Department for requirements. As other suggested. Probably easier to contact agent or have your husband to retirement visa instead of marriage.
Sunida **************
OP@Pom *******
thanks very much for your kindness!!Pom ********
@Sunida *************
I don’t know about marry again in Thailand.I would start asking Immigration office for their requirements for marriage Visa than go to Umpur what they required to get marriage license.
I wish you luck.
Sunida **************
OP@Pom *******
how about marry again in thailand? Do u know it works or not?Sunida **************
OP@Pom *******
yes. I will contact with agent. He is not 50 years old yet. Thanks very much, it seems too complicated.Pom ********
@Sunida *************
No, as they cannot proved that you are actually married in the US. Has to start at origin county register.
Colin *********
Hope this helps
Sunida **************
OP@Colin ********
how can i join this group?Sunida **************
OP@Colin ********
thanks very much. I contact for translation from english to thai but they mentioned US embassy in thailand stop having notary. I need to go back to USA and get notary in thai embassy in usa. Is it true?
Sean **********
I was in same situation. They told me I could not marry my Thai wife in Thailand. I did not have My Marriage certificate or her divorce certificate translated in the U S. Too much red tape so I just got the Retirement visa
Sunida **************
OP@Sean *********
good
Bill **********
Depends on your home Province and district. May require an official Thai translation (meaning notarized); the folks who do the official translation can provide the notary. Then register your marriage in your home district office; will need to provide current updates of active marriage from local district for O-spouse renewal of extension.
Sunida **************
OP@Bill *********
thanks. But translator told me to get notarized from thai embassy in USA. I m so confusedBill **********
@Sunida *************
Then, take that as a 'maybe'.Bill **********
In the US, your copy of the marriage certificate is probably certified. Also, with a Spouse visa, you will quickly learn to compile a 'Spouse renewal' file folder. Makes annual renewal of husbands extension 100 times easier for the Thai wife. Keeps all the documents, copies, pics, hand drawn maps, and related stuff in one place.
Nikos **********
I do this before one month in chiang mai ,it's not something difficult, just need little time,if you hurry can arrange a agent to do this for you ,I hope I helped you a little bit ,good luck krap 🙏
Nikos **********
No need marry again, you need receive stamp from ministry of foreign affairs in USA and then stamp from thai embassy in USA, then you go to Thailand to receive stamp from thai ministry of foreign affairs, then go to your district and register your marriage
Christian *******
@Nikos *********
correct.Nikos **********
@Christian ******
I do the same no long time ago and I know
Graham ******
You cannot marry again if you are legally married, you register your marriage at the local Amphur after getting it notarized etc.
Sunida **************
OP@Graham *****
thanks but they said i need to get notarized in thai embassy in USA. I checked in website and it seems not easy.
Matthew *********
@Sunida *************
at this point invest getting an agent and let them figure it out . Anything is possible in Thailand with moneySunida **************
OP@Matthew ********
yes i m thinking to do thatNikos **********
It's not difficult process believe me and no forget to copy passport of husband and do same with stamps
Sunida **************
OP@Nikos *********
thanks so muchNikos **********
Ooo to no forget, you must translate English version in thai language and receive stamp from ministry of foreign affairs in Thailand
Nikos **********
@Sunida *************
it's easy really, I do in thai embassy in Greece
Christopher ********
I think you must notary in USA embassy and also marry again in thailand for ceremony and photos. But not sure ... Thailand should accept the marriage license from USA if it is certified by the USA embassy.
Sunida **************
OP@Christopher *******
US embassy in thailand have no service for notarized
Michael ******
@Sunida *************
I think there is a definition mismatch. You were told "notary" or "notarized", but what I think you need is the full authentication/legalization process for your marriage certificate.As Pom Argent mentioned in an earlier reply, the process is as:
Step 1. Obtain certified copy of the marriage certificate from the county where you were married in the US
Step 2. Have that authenticated by the Secretary of State in the US state where you were married.
Step 3. Have that authenticated by the US State Department in Washington DC. They will not do so if step 2 has not been done.
Step 4. Have that authenticated by the Thai Embassy or Consulate that serves your region in the US. They will not do so if step 3 has not been done.
Step 5. Get a certified translation into Thai of the entire document stack above.
Step 6. Have all that approved by the Ministry of Foreign Affairs in Thailand
Step 7. Take all of the above to a local Amphur in Thailand to have your family status updated to show that you two are married. They will give you the Kor Ror 22 form.
The US embassy in Thailand, as far as I know, does not offer such document authentication/legalization services, such as authenticating a marriage certificate that has been authenticated by a US state. Document authentication/legalization is different from notarization. I think that is where some of the confusion is coming from.
Michael ******
Steps 2-3-4 I completed all without leaving where I live now, because I mailed the documents. 🙂
Is your marriage certificate from Florida? Then it looks like you would want this for step 2:
And for step 3, you want this:
For step 4, was the document issued in Florida? If so, you would be served by the Royal Thai Embassy in Washington DC:
See here for information on legalization of documents:
Is your marriage certificate from Florida? Then it looks like you would want this for step 2:
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And for step 3, you want this:
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For step 4, was the document issued in Florida? If so, you would be served by the Royal Thai Embassy in Washington DC:
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See here for information on legalization of documents:
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093Sunida **************
OP@Michael *****
i m currently in thailand. But we will visit USA middle of next year for 2-3 weeks. I do not think it can be completed 4 steps as Pom argent mentioned by couple week as we travel around.For step 2-3-4, we need to do it at DC, right? Can i do in Florida and step 4 at DC?
Thanks very much
Michael ******
@Sunida *************
It's a lot of steps and takes a while, but it can be done. 🙂 Although I don't know if you are in the US right now or in Thailand. If already in Thailand...I imagine it would be very difficult and take a very long time, even if just because of how long it would take to mail between Thailand and the US multiple times. But if you are in the US where it would be easier and quicker (although it still takes months), and if you still would like to try, you can reach out anytime for tips and help on going through those steps.Sunida **************
OP@Michael *****
yes. After i find information, i need to do as you and Pom argent mentioned. It seems difficult to us to complete it. So i am thinking to give up of married visa in thailand. Thanks very much.
Christopher ********
@Sunida *************
usa embassy always do service "Notary Public" everywhere in the world, but not sure Thailand will accept it.Nikos **********
@Christopher *******
must do in ministry of foreign affairs in usa
Peter *******
@Sunida *************
clarify. -- web site says differentlyActivity
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