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Does an Airbnb stay affect my Tourist Visa application for Thailand?

Jul 17, 2017
9 years ago
Mike ********
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Hey all,

I live in the US. I will be traveling to Thailand in August on a Tourist Visa (have not applied yet). I am looking at both Hotels and AirBnB for place to stay. I read in news many months ago about issues with AirBnB operating in Bangkok. On the Visa application, they request where I will be staying, "Place to stay in Thailand".

My question: Does anyone have experience with an AirBnB booking, versus regular hotel booking, having a negative affect with a Tourist Visa application? I realize this is minor detail, but thought I would I ask.

Thanks to everyone for sharing their experiences and advice!
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The discussion centers around whether booking an Airbnb could negatively impact a Tourist Visa application for Thailand. Many participants share their experiences, indicating that while it is advisable to ensure the Airbnb host is registered and able to provide appropriate documentation (such as the TM30), there is generally little risk of visa denial solely based on the type of accommodation booked. Several comments emphasize the importance of having an address to provide on the entry card and that, in most cases, the TM30 forms are filed automatically by hotels or guesthouses. Travelers seem to agree that while legal issues exist around Airbnb rentals, they rarely impact the Tourist Visa application itself.
Жанна ************
For tourists it is not an issue
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Dilpreet ******
You can live in pataya and Thailand down town
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Mike ********
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Lots of advice and comments. Plenty of information to make my decision. Looking forward to drinking a beer and eating spicy Thai food on a hot steamy evening in Thailand. Many thanks to all!
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Jim *******
Interesting, very easy to read of random police questioning taking place at times and without drugs or any other thrown out reasons. I've seen it!
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Jim *******
Doubt away. My own Son is living here and some 4 months ago walking in thonglor he was asked where he lived after they viewed his passport copy, he told them and they called the apartment and verified it. It was afternoon!!!
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Terary **********
Greg Jorgensen -- I have never filled that thing out correctly. I use the same address because it makes sense to me. All the other address I actually stay hare foreign to me. They have never looked twice. As for police or other governments entities asking about passports, and proof of lodging and what not. It has never happened to me nor anyone I know. I think people at risk for that non-sense are those mentioned above (drugs, alcohol, angry gf). And the people who may have questionable work permission (Burmese, Filipino, Khmer)
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Jim *******
Greg Jorgensen. I don't need to overthink anything as I'm here on a 1 year extension to my visa. I do however care about others getting fed incorrect information. It's perfectly possible to get stopped by law enforcement routinely and ask about your status and place of accommodation. They sometimes will call your accommodation to check you stay there. It happens!
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Terary **********
I am pretty sure you can just print something out. Maybe one of those 100% refundable bookings. I have only ever been asked once to show proof of lodging. Aside from that. My only experience with AirBNB in Thailand was positive. I would do it again.. Though I didn't have a need for paperwork.
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Mike ********
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Thanks for the many comments. If I find an AirBnB, I will ask if they are registered, as per
@Marike *************
. But from most comments sounds like not an issue.
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Jim *******
Go check that on the Immigration Webb site and you'll find it's a max of 5,000.
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@Jim ******
it's 1,600B and it is the landlord that is fined.
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Jim *******
From what I've read many times, the guest has 24 hours from arriving to ensure the TM 30 is done if not staying at a registered place of accommodation who does it for you. According to Immigration Webb site,failing to do this can result in the Alien being find up to 5.000 thb. I'd just stayin a hotel,safe too.
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Mike ********
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Very good, I get it. Thanks!
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Ivan ************
Mike the TM30 is the notification to immigration of where you are staying. This is filed automatically in the background by all hotels and guesthouses and SOME (but not all) condos. It's why they ask for your passport on checkin, that is for the TM30. In most cases these days it is done online, the hotel just types your passport details into the system when you register and that is it, done. So most tourists visiting here it happens completely automatically and transparently and there is no issue.

Where it becomes a potential issue is when you go for an extension- if you DON'T have an up-to-date TM30 on file, this can cause problems with your extension. So it is something you need to be AWARE of if you are staying in accommodation other than a licensed hotel or guesthouse. You just need to be sure the TM30 is filed for the time immediately before your extension. In fact it may be enough that one was just filed SOMEWHERE between the time you entered Thailand and your extension, they may just presume you are still there as long as you stayed SOMEWHERE that filed it.

The legal obligation is on the landlord and the fine for non-filing is on the landlord. Not you. But if you are standing there and need the extension, and can't get it without a TM30 filed, immigration may try to get you to pay the fine instead. The fine is small, something like 1,600B, it's not going to bankrupt you even if you did have to pay it.

So- most people don't need to think about this because their hotel/guesthouse does it automatically in the background. I have extended maybe 20 times and I have NEVER had an issue. I've never had it brought up or mentioned or asked for, as it has always been done in the background, by wherever I was staying.

But if not staying in place that registers you, and you never stay in such a place between arriving in Thailand and going to immigration for an extension, you just want to be aware of this as a potential issue.

Some more details on it below.

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Note this is an entirely separate issue to whether an AirBnb is running an illegal guesthouse, which they are if they rent rooms for less than 30 days. But again, that's their problem, not yours.
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Mike ********
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@Ivan ***********
So you confused me a little. I am planning on applying for extension. Not sure where the TM30 fits into the application?
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Ivan ************
@Mi**
they won't be registered unless they are obviously a guesthouse from the listing, which most are not. If you want to stay in an AirBnb just accept that it's not going to be registered.

But it's not an issue. The only place it could affect you is that your TM30 needs to be current if you want to apply for an extension, but this only matter immediately before your extension, so as long as you stay somewhere that does register you immediately before that you should be fine.

If you never do an extension it should never affect you at all.

It will have zero effect on the tourist visa in the first place, it's only an issue around extensions and that is to do with the TM30. And you can get and file that yourself if you have to.
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James **************
Just put any hotel down....or book a room and put the address on the form. I don't understand ur point....
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Tod *********
There is almost ZERO chance (less in fact) that a thai consulate will check to see where you're staying. I'd do as others suggested and put down a well known hotel.
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Frances ********
Many condos say no short term rentals allowed.
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Joseph ********
Chances of checking a booking is made is remote why would they have all those desks there arranging hotels on arrival
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Joseph ********
what im getting at is i have never heard of anyone having there hotel booking checked it makes no sense what refused entry for not having a pre booked hotel room its ridiculous
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Robert ********
Because some visitors use those desks to book rooms and the rates are very high.
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Barry ******
Put the address of the airbnb. It's perfectly fine to stay in apartments or friends houses (or couchsurfing)
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Ivan ************
@Jim ******
I believe the responsibility (and the fine) for that is also with the landlord, not you, but where it may bite you in the ass is if you need to get an extension and your landlord hasn't filed it. My point was more that it is not illegal for a guest to stay in private accommodation.
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@Ivan ***********
. It's not maybe,it's a fact the tm 30 must be filed but many AirBnBs don't want to for obvious reasons and can easily tell you they have. If you're caught it's your responsibility.
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Ivan ************
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you can stay in a friend's house legally. You or your friend may have to file a TM30 manually which the hotel would normally do automatically but it is not illegal to stay with a friend.

It is illegal to run a hotel without a hotel license, as many AirBnBs are doing, but that is the landlord's problem, not yours.
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Jim *******
Only if it's registered.
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Robert ********
Be careful, many AirBnB places do not operate legally and are not properly registered.
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David ************
Just find a place on either an&b or Booking.com. You can print the reservation details in both English and Thai. And don't stay near the airport like one suggested. Not much going out out there.
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Brett *********
However you book just be sure you have the address of at least the first place you stay. As long as you have that to put on your entry card you won't have an issue with immigration.
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Marike **************
Probably wise to check your AB&B host is registered and can provide you with documents for TM30.
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Janet ***************
Sometimes they ask but I have never had a problem really. I try to make a provisional booking before I leave even if its for one night. Some of the ones on lastminute.com allow you to cancel if you change your mind before you travel.
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Peter *******
Sananwan Palace very close to Airport

And excellent clean and not too expensive.

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