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Do I need to report anything when entering Thailand again on a Non-O visa, and how does the 90-day reporting work after leaving?

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Hello,

I have a question regarding re-entry permit, currently on Non-O visa.

- When I fly out of Thailand an fly back in, do I need to report anything when I enter Thailand again? And my first report will be in 90 days at the immigration office correct? (Not online for first report)

- If I enter Thailand again, and if I fly out again before the 90 days report, is it correct that no report needs to be done? And the 90 days will start counting again the moment I enter Thailand after that?

TIA!!
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The individual inquired about reporting requirements upon re-entering Thailand on a Non-O visa and the handling of the 90 days reporting rule. Key points from the conversation include the necessity of a TM30 filing within 24 hours upon return (though often overlooked), and that if one exits Thailand before the 90-day period is completed, there is no need for a report until they re-enter, at which point the 90-day clock resets. Additionally, the importance of obtaining a re-entry permit prior to leaving Thailand was highlighted, especially for frequent travelers.
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Sue *******
Sue *******
Be sure and get a reentry stamp at immigration before you go. If you’re going to be traveling a lot out of Thailand, get a multiple reentry stamp.

Every time you come back into Thailand, you restart the 90 day report clock.

I just recently went to Laos and went to immigration and asked if I needed a new TM-30 and they told me if I come back to the same address, I don’t need a new one.

This was Chiang Rai.
Ray *********
Ray *********
@Sue ******
with an reenrty stamp, is there a time limit when you should return?
Gregor **********
Gregor **********
@Ray ********
a re-entry only keeps the stay permit it was bought and issued for, alive until its expiry date. There is no rule for how long you can stay abroad - when you re-enter, you will only be stamped in until the original stay permit expiry
Sue *******
Sue *******
@Gregor *********
makes sense .
Sue *******
Sue *******
@Ray ********
Good question. You start a new 90 day report period when you return. I suppose before your retirement visa expires. Not really sure, though. I was only gone a couple weeks and came back in time to renew my retirement visa.
Ray *********
Ray *********
@Gregor *********
not yet, I'm gathering info for when I retire later this year. I know I need a non o visa then get extention 1 year, say I want to leave in that year, I get myself a reentry permit, correct? Do I have a time limit to get back to Thailand before I need to start from scratch again?
Gregor **********
Gregor **********
@Sue ******
there is a difference between a visa and a stay permit. The visa lets you ENTER the country, the stay permit lets you STAY in the country . . . .actually TWO ROSES, not one. The visa you entered with, expired the very moment when you entered
Sue *******
Sue *******
@Gregor *********
a rose by any other name….
Gregor **********
Gregor **********
@Sue ******
you didn't "renew your retirement visa". You only applied for the next "1-year extended stay permit based on retirement". You do not have a "visa" any more
Stuart *********
Stuart *********
@Sue ******
That’s office specific. Some don’t need a new TM30 if you return to your same address. Some need a new one every time you return. Others will need a new one if you’ve stayed in a hotel or hospital and return home afterwards.
Sue *******
Sue *******
@Stuart ********
can you prove this please? There’s so much fear mongering out there. My personal experience was as I said.
Sue *******
Sue *******
@Stuart ********
very cool. Sorry I was skeptical. There’s so much nonsense out there. But I apologize 🙏🏻
Stuart *********
Stuart *********
@Sue ******
Yes. Different departments have different training modules depending on what you’ll be working on.
Sue *******
Sue *******
@Stuart ********
I haven’t heard of them in Chiang Mai, but I haven’t been to that office. That’s a nice thing to do.

Did you have to take some training?
Stuart *********
Stuart *********
@Sue ******
They used to have them in Chiang Mai too. I’m not aware if they still do.
Sue *******
Sue *******
@Stuart ********
Interesting. I have never seen or heard of such a thing anywhere in Thailand until now. It seems odd that any immigration office anywhere would have volunteers. Not been my experience here or any other country.

But, good for you and Phuket.
Sue *******
Sue *******
@Gregor *********
interesting
Gregor **********
Gregor **********
@Sue ******
the Phuket Immigration Volunteers even run their own website. You can also volunteer for being a member of the Tourist Police. This is allowed to foreigners, regardless if you believe it or not
Step *****
Step *****
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@Stuart ********
always appreciate your help, it is incredibly useful!
Stuart *********
Stuart *********
@Sue ******
I’m sorry that you can’t comprehend that an immigration office realises that foreigners can help out at their office to liaise with other foreigners to help easing the process of what they may need to do at an immigration office.

We volunteer to mitigate the process of what’s required and help those in need of services as to what may be required.

I’m sorry that you find it way too hard to believe that either people are willing to do that or that the Thai authorities allow it. Except it happens. Whether you can believe it or not it does.
Sue *******
Sue *******
@Stuart ********
Thailand lets foreigners volunteer at immigration? Sorry, but this is way too hard to believe.
Stuart *********
Stuart *********
@Sue ******
I volunteer there.
Sue *******
Sue *******
@Stuart ********
how do you work at immigration if you are a foreigner?
Stuart *********
Stuart *********
@Sue ******
I work at immigration in Phuket. I know their policy regarding TM30s. They require a new filing if you’ve stayed in a hotel or hospital - or anywhere that may have “overwritten” your previous filing. As stated it’s office specific.
Step *****
Step *****
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@Sue ******
cheers!
Nitesh ******
Nitesh ******
you already know everything. you didnt leave any step here . after that same steps again . 👍👍
Stuart *********
Stuart *********
When you return you (or your landlord) should file a TM30 within 24 hours. Many people don’t bother and unless you need interaction with immigration you don’t really need one. Some office don’t have this requirement if you’re returning to your main abode.

If you don’t stay 90 days you don’t need to report and the clock resets to day 1 on your return.
Step *****
Step *****
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Osvaldo *****************
Osvaldo *****************
@Stuart ********
this apply also to a Cuban citizen?and for go out I need to show the TM-30
Stuart *********
Stuart *********
@Osvaldo ****************
Sorry I should have said “interaction with a local immigration office”.

At an airport or land border they will not care if you have filed a TM30 or not.

Any foreigner regardless of nationality should have a TM30 filed within 24 hours of arrival at their accommodation. Hotels usually do it automatically, many house owners or Airbnb hosts don’t bother.
Stuart *********
Stuart *********
@Osvaldo ****************
Cuban nationals currently get a free visa exempt stamp for 60 days on entry.

Usually leaving and returning you’ll get a new 60 day stamp. However depending on your previous entries to Thailand you may have issues at immigration if they think you may be trying to abuse the exempt entry system.
Osvaldo *****************
Osvaldo *****************
@Stuart ********
If you can give me some advice, can I leave before my two months expire and re-enter and receive 2 more months?

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