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Can I transfer 500,000 baht to my friend for the DTV (Soft Power) Visa application, or does he need to maintain it in his account for a certain period?

Aaron ********
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Is it possible for me to transfer 500,000 baht to my friend's account so that he can apply for the DTV (Soft Power) Visa, or does he need to maintain a balance of 500,000 baht in his own account for a certain period? How many months of bank statements are required?
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The poster asks if they can transfer 500,000 baht to a friend's account for the DTV (Soft Power) Visa application, or if the amount must be held in the friend's account for a specified duration. Comments suggest that each embassy has different requirements regarding bank statements, with some asking for 1 to 6 months of statements. There is a warning against potential immigration fraud if the funds are merely borrowed. Overall, it is emphasized that funds should ideally be in the applicant's own account to prove financial stability.
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John ********
John ********
Depends where you apply I believe, some Embassies, consulates only want to see it in the applicants account, not bothered where it comes from. I've read other comments that say different, but with it being fairly new, it's open to opinions.
ฉันเป็นทางของประชาชน *********
ฉันเป็นทางของประชาชน *********
If your friend has the energy and is single I live in Malaysia 90 days, Vietnam 90 days, Thailand 90 days. Been doing it for 5 years. No more visa hassles. Use Airbb and Malaysia and Vietnam EVERYTHING IS INCLUDED NO DEPOSIT REQUIRED 🙏🏽🤙🏽
Ko *****************
Ko *****************
Ending balance is to meet minimum requirement Baht 500K but an account must have 6 months or 3 months or 1 months required by Consulate General.
Janelle *****
Janelle *****
My friend once did this for me to enter a baccarat tournament lol. I was short $50K usd to qualify and he loaned me it . And I gave it right back in chips

They use a very sophisticated casino bank checking system where they called my bank and verified it live

Hopefully they don’t do that for visas but I guess it would depend on the embassy
Phil ******
Phil ******
@Aaron *******
no the bank account must be in your name
Lee ***********
Lee ***********
It's supposed to be your own funds for a reason, to prove your self sufficient, that's the point of it all, not to just scan your way in to be Thailands problem. You will ruin it for every real applicant.
Damo ***********
Damo ***********
@Lee **********
I agree. If he hasn't got the supporting funds then maybe he does not belong n Thailand. I think the DVT is a bullsh1t rort of a visa that will allow 'anyone' into Thailand for 5 years.. (I say 'anyone' which you don't really need to guess what types of people I am referring to) 🤦
Sally *******
Sally *******
@Damo **********
I thought the requirements were quite tough. You have to show business accounts and invoicing for 6 months, website, portfolio of your past work if you are freelance, or prove you're employed in a registered company with tax records etc.. I can't see how the lowest of the low could do all of that?
Frances ********
Frances ********
@Lee **********
just to be devil’s advocate, what’s the difference of a friend loaning the required $ into your account and a visa agent doing the same?
Lee ***********
Lee ***********
@Frances *******
ask the agent
John **********
John **********
All I'm going to say is Thailand is going to regret issuing this visa 5 years from now ... mark my word. Very shortsighted just to keep the hotel industry happy
Kate *******
Kate *******
@John *********
I don’t think so, it will still be enough of a barrier to deter the bottom rungs of people and they’re clamping down on the border runs at the same time. I think it will help to keep out the worst of the worst from staying too long.
Andy **********
Andy **********
I assume you are not loaning the money, and expect it back, because otherwise you are both conspiring to commit immigration fraud. Probably not a good idea if you live in Thailand, to post this in a public group.
Samuel ********
Samuel ********
@Andy *********
I wouldn't defend Thailand, considering their bad rep for immigration fraud internationally.

If anything, they're the biggest rule breakers. It's no surprise they have no issue producing fake documents, probably with Acrobat or something. Thais getting busted for fake docs is definitely a trend in my country right

now.
Andy **********
Andy **********
@Samuel *******
My wife isn't. This thread is about the DTV and visas issued for entry ino Thailand, not about your own opinions about immigration into New Zealand. About 180,000 people immigrate into NZ each year. Of those, according to the government there, 14,000 are not meant to be there, from multiple years, chiefly visa overstayers. According to Immigration NZ, the largest group of illegal immigrants are from Tonga, followed by Samoa. Then China and India. I don't doubt there are Thais illegally staying in NZ (there was a hyped report of 100 fruit pickers being picked up, with papers from AEC Thai Development), just as there are Kiwis living illegally in Thailand (eg these losers:
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Samuel ********
Samuel ********
@Andy *********
This discussion spans various issues “and everything else” just like the groups name is, you brought up visa fraud and offered your opinion, which is undeniably a major concern in Thailand, at the same time it’s a country widely regarded as high-risk in this area.

Let’s break it down with some significant numbers. Over 100,000 Thais have recently opted to work illegally in South Korea, far outpacing the number legally employed.

Meanwhile, Thailand faces its own migrant dilemma, having deported around 140,000 Burmese workers in just three months—a frequent occurrence flagged by human rights organizations. When you compare this to New Zealand's Dawn Raids, which people love to lament over, Thailand has surpassed that by a factor of three or four in the last few months alone, depending on how you crunch the numbers.

Sources:

- **100,000 Thais in Korea:** [Pattaya Mail](
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- **140,000 Burmese expelled:** [Radio Free Asia](
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Willem ****
Willem ****
@Andy *********
Your statement does not make sense. Does any money on once account need to be justified where it comes from? many borrow money and then it is in an account. others have the money but tomorrow a car or something else will be bought. And all the money is gone. that is why an amount in your account means nothing at all.
Andy **********
Andy **********
The intent of proof of funds is to demonstrate you are able to support yourself. Its a fairly common thing countries do; that visitors have the means to support themselves, to be able to return home etc.. If the 500,000 Baht/13,700 Euro is a gift then fine, but it seems a similar scam to those Agents who momentarily deposit money in an account so someone can meet the retiree requirement. Its corrupt. The DTV provides for a sponsorship letter. This would be the correct way, rather than trying to pass off someone else's money as your own. Of course, what you are suggesting is that people are all fundementally dishonest, and that everyone will empty their account the very next day. And in the same way, bank account statements, and other documents, submitted to European and North American companies mean nothing at all, because the account could be emptied and closed the very next day. But in actuality, most people do not do this. Now, in general, a country's insistance that an alien has the means to support themselves while visiting, is a very good thing. Someone who apparently has nothing to their name, and has to borrow 13,000 Euros to fly half way around the world, that seems somewhat questionable, bordering on irresponsible. I assume they can't even afford expatriate health insurance to support their 5 year bumming around Thailand. Better for their friend to formally assume full legal responsibility for their friend's financial affairs. The knock back for others, trying to obey the rules, is that Thailand might tighten up (will tighten up). I see the Thai MP who is Chair of their Industry Panel has already been muttering about visas, after billboards have been spotted in and around Bangkok, in Chinese, promising Thai passports. Thais are rightfully suspicious of foreigners who seek to exploit grey areas in their visa legislation.
James *******
James *******
@Andy *********
it's very cute that you are so straight laced but choose to live in such a corrupt country.
James ********
James ********
@Andy *********
sheesh , imagine living with this bloke. " hey grandma , you exceeded the speed limit in your zimmer frame by 0.4 kph , it is my duty to report you to the relevent authority "
Brandon ************
Brandon ************
You need to check the website of the embassy that your friend will apply through. Each embassy sets their own requirements. Some only want a bank statement, and some want 3 or 6 months of statements.

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