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Can I apply for a DTV visa from Australia while on an ED visa in Thailand that is about to expire?

Jul 31, 2024
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Adam ********
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I am currently in Thailand on an ED Visa. It expires Sept 26th. I am looking to go back home to Australia for a couple of weeks and wanted to apply for the DTV while I was out of the country.

Do I need to let the current ED Visa expire, or can I apply for the DTV and if approved it will cancel the current Visa? It will only be a month's difference if I let the current Visa expire but I thought I'd check to see if I need to wait.
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A user currently holding an ED visa in Thailand wishes to know if they should let the visa expire before applying for a DTV visa from Australia. The discussion highlights that it's essential to officially cancel any extension related to the ED visa before leaving Thailand to avoid complications upon return. Community responses suggest that holding two visas simultaneously is not permitted, and any new visa application does not cancel an existing visa automatically. Therefore, canceling the ED visa extension at a local immigration office prior to departure is recommended.
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John ********
Presumably that would apply for any visa type extension?

I am currently on rolling non imm o (retirement) extensions but do have an option of applying for a DVT ...presumably I would have to let the extension expire then apply for a DVT out of country? Can not apply for a DVT with a valid non imm o extension? The attraction being of course the 5 year nature of the DVT visa (I spend only 6 month or less time slots in thailand).
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Tod *********
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nope no need to cancel either a retirement OR marriage to a thai extension, just leave stamp out without a re-entry permit and you're fine
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John **********
You can't hold 2 visas at the same time.
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Adam ********
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@John *********
i understand that. i wasnt sure if a new application would automatically cancel a current visa. from what others are saying, the answer is no and i would need to cancel the current visa.
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John **********
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correct. If you already have one you won't get another one
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Bart **************
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would the new one not cancel the other? That's how I understood it'd work.
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Tod *********
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doesn't work like that, and

I would bet dollars to durian that the O/P doesn't have an ED VISA, but instead has an extension of stay (they would look at the stamp in their passport).

Leaving without cancelling an extension of stay doesn't officially cancel it with the immigration office that issued it,

True, it stamps you OUT of thailand, but if you come back and go to get any type of long term extension they'll see you have an "open extension" in your passport (even if it expired months ago, it was not cancelled correctly)

people have and do get fined trying to get new extensions on other visas for not doing it the right way before they left the last time.
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Adam ********
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@Tod ********
OP does have an ED visa. Have been here 10 months on ED visa. Enrolled in Thai language school.
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John **********
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that would be unusual, normally the ED visa is for 90 days then you get extensions. Check the most recent stamp in your passport
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Adam ********
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@John *********
there are quarterly checkins.
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Ellie *******
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, READ your stamp on your passport.
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John **********
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they are not check-ins, they are you obtaining extensions. It's how the ED visa works. Again look in your passport, it will say something like "extension of stay permitted "
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Chris *********
in similar situation and I'm going to go to immigration and cancel before leaving just in case
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Ellie *******
You have to officially cancel an extension based on studying at the local immigration office, if you already applied for at least one extension after the first 90 days. If you are still on the first 90 days stamp, you just leave Thailand and wouldn't be any problem.

You might (or might not) be able to apply for a new visa at the Thai embassy even if your extension is not cancelled, but you will have an issue if you want to apply for an extension with your new visa or convert to a different type of in-country visa.

The simplest is, to get the termination letter from your school and cancel your extension before you leave.
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Adam ********
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@Ellie ******
probably a silly question but if i cancel the current visa, do i need to leave the country immediately or do they give a date that i need to leave by?
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Ellie *******
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, Depends on your province. The effective date of the cancellation is as on the termination letter. Usually, you can apply for the cancellation a few days or a few weeks in advance. You have to leave within that last day.

There are a few provinces that doesn't allow cancellation application in advance, accept it only the last day.
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Adam ********
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Thank you
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Oleksandra **********
I can confirm what Ellie said earlier. I am in the same situation and asked my school about that. The cancellation is necessary.
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Adam ********
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thank you for your help. i will look into it.
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