Will the Thai woman's insurance cover damages to my motorbike after an accident where she was at fault?

Aug 10, 2022
2 years ago
Jake *******
ORIGINAL POSTER
I had a motorbike accident yesterday on Rama IV with my Honda Rebel 500. A Thai woman on a scooter cut across 5 lanes of gridlocked traffic without checking for motorbikes and collided with me in the 5th lane. In the photos below, she's the red line and I'm the green line. I was accelerating because the light was green. There was a car blocking the view so we didn't see each other and collided at high speed. Neither of us have broken bones. Just some scrapes and bruises. An ambulance came and took her to a hospital. I told them I was fine and rode home on my motorbike. I wasn't sure if I should call the insurance company and ask them to come to the scene of the accident. I only have the compulsory insurance. The Honda service center estimates that it will cost 15K baht to fix my motorbike. I'm wondering, would her insurance pay for the repairs since she was clearly at fault? Or should I not expect them to pay for the repairs? If so, why? If you think they would pay for the repairs, how long should I expect it to take? What's the process? I'm talking with her daughter in Line. Thanks!
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TLDR : Answer Summary
The accident involved a collision between a motorbike and a scooter where the scooter rider was likely at fault. Key points discussed include the difficulty of obtaining compensation from the other party’s insurance, particularly if she doesn’t have coverage. Many commenters recommend calling the insurance immediately, stressing the importance of a police report, which can help in establishing fault. Numerous opinions suggest that the best course of action might be to simply pay for the repairs out-of-pocket rather than risk further complications with the legal or insurance process.
Danny *************
Delete her and pay to fix your bike. You're exposed to some almighty f***ery if she goes to the police
Paul *********
It's your fault ....... wouldn't have happened if you were not in Thailand. 😜
Otto *********
@Paul ********
That is the usual Thai answer.
Derek ********
Keep on trucking
Cornelis ******
You have your fault assurance as a farang.
Susan *******
Good luck with that
Tony *******
If it was her fault then her insurance company will pay.hope you can prove it
John ***********************
Has she admitted fault? If so deal in cash. But if you say its her fault and she says its yours then its an insurance issue. In the UK you are supposed to exchange details there and then if the blame game starts
Marc ********
Theoretically her insurance would pay your damage yes.

No police involved to determine who was at fault?

Too much theory here

Personally I would just pay the 15k not be gambling and might ending up paying much more
Talya *****
Lose her line...like fr. Fix your bike and stop communicating with the daughter.
Andy ******
@Talya ****
having experience like this for me …I recon you have the best advice. Get the cops involved you pay more too
Karim ***************
@Andy *****
agreed.
Jay *********
@Karim **************
Cops will definitely want a cut.
Brett *********
Mogens Nygaard the Benz being the larger vehicle against a bike is more in the wrong in Thailand application of fault and compensation. The larger the vehicle the more care you must take to not hit anything in your visible area of responsibility.
John **********
Don't waste time...disappear.

In there eyes your going to have costs.

Parang vs Thai rule! = You loose!!
Wylie *******
No insurance company I've ever heard of would cover third party damages if the police didn't come and determine it was the policy holders fault.
Marc ********
@Wylie ******
Only valid comment I saw here
Oriano ******
Se lei a solo l'assicurazione obbligatoria, l'assicurazione non paga i danni alle cose, o le paga lei, o niente !!! Se a un assicurazione aggiuntiva allora l'assicurazione paga i danni alla moto !!!
Andrew *******
15k baht. You got off easy. Remember farang = ATM.
Jira ******
There is a free CCTV cameras website in bangkok you can google it for use as a solid evidence.
Jira ******
There are 13 cctv headquarters in bangkok. May I ask what district of the scene belongs to?
Jake *******
ORIGINAL POSTER
@Jira *****
Khlong Toei, Khet Khlong Toei
Jira ******
@Jake ******
do you have a Thai friend or girlfriend with you? They will understand what you need to do next.
Jira ******
@Jake ******
the website is broken what a shaming 🫣😰
Jake *******
ORIGINAL POSTER
@Jira *****
Really? What's the website?
Angy ********
@Jake ******
you said that you run at high speed so if you take camera as evidence would be a motive to be fined instead of get a compensation.
Jake *******
ORIGINAL POSTER
@Angy *******
I was accelerating because the light was green and the 5th lane I had just moved into was open. I wasn't speeding.
Erich ***********************
Just a word of advice for the future. Have your bike mounted with a front and rear view camera for your own protection. Yes I know it sounds silly, but you have to prove to a foreign government that it's not your fault.
Dicks ******
I would say she probably only has the compulsory insurance which wouldn't cover damage to property only limited medical.

It's a gamble to proceed with your damage claim as it could go against you being a foreigner as they often take the word of a Thai regardless of blame.
Chris ****
Could have been much worse. Happy you’re both not seriously injured. Seems even in worse case you’re not going to be having a life changing issue here. Maybe count your blessings, make payments and move on.
Durrant ********
Get farang lawyer or forget it
Stephenie **********
Keep well away or you'll be financially violated
Филипп **********
And we're was he?? Napping??
Филипп **********
U not thai =your fault... Case closed.. Sort your own repair and move on. P. S. Nice touch with all photos and pink and green arrows 🙄..at least u got daughters line 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Daniel ************
Филипп **********
@Daniel ***********
what's not true? Common enlighten me... 🙄U don't get it?? Do u?? U not really loved, Regardless of family or not (by kids yes, not by wife and her fam) u tolerated u needed... Not loved... And especially by strangers.. Do u really think she will pay? Dream on.. U have lots of money.. And that's it.... Thats the belief that's impossible to prove otherwise..... So don't even bother... Suck it up pay 15 k end of story.. And remember when u drive dont think u in the right all is good.. Look what others are doing.... Then u have some chance to avoid an accident.. But can't avoid them all.. Some one will come out of nowhere and hand u your buttocks again one day. I had same experience after 1000+ near misses... I must have insurance I must wear a helmet I must I must u must... But not locals... What u want to get a lawyer?? For what to prove non existing point that all treated same? Forget it... It is what it is. And I don't care how many years u have.. Its situations like this in post should u choose to persue that reminds u of what I just wrote above ok pal
Daniel ************
@Филипп *********
that if you not Thai - you have the fault ..
Da *****
@Филипп *********
Jesus, relax asshole. Just cos youre a POS, doesnt mean you should drag everyone else down with you. Go play in the sand or something, take your attitude elsewhere.
Филипп **********
@Da ****
eat me sh. T head
Simon *********
Is she hot ?
Ennio ********
I remember driving back from a festival with a group of friends up in Khao Yai a few years back. The road was slippy as hell due to some sort of road works that weren't indicated (obviously). We all toppled, one by one, as we hit this patch of road. Ambulances and police turn up. The police haul our bikes 15 miles down the road to the station and then charge us 800 baht each after we got patched up in the hospital for less than that. You can't make this sht up, but only in...
John **********
You're chatting with her daughter. Ask her if her mum's insurance will cover it. Don't get into a pissing contest
Ennio ********
Count yourself lucky and move on.
Danilo ****
You gonna pay for her motorbike, for her injures and your motorbike
Braulio *********
Laurence **********
Facebook is your place for advice. That's very funny.
Rogerio ******
@Laurence *********
one of those people who can never fathom other people’s experiences might come handy. Always one in each thread.
Prashant **********
Their is no law which can force you to pay where as maximum police can file a Negligence driving case on you ,,( you should have a valid thai driving licence and you bike papers complete incl yearly tax). They can not do any thing much except threaten you
Ellwood **************
As you were clearly in the "right " go and report to the police.I would bet she does not have a license or insurance, and you can stick that on her. I had a terrible accident when an idiot driving a car hit me on my bike. The police wanted me to sue, but for complex reasons I did not. The moto is- try to avoid riding a bike in Thailand. Thai drivers are clueless and dangerous. Still - you were lucky.
Matthew ********
Just disappear before you get slugged with her hospital bills and demands for a new bike and compensation for her not being able to work.
Erich ***********************
@Matthew *******
I agree. He should disappear. Although I am sympathetic to him because it wasn't his fault.
Fizz *******
@Matthew *******
accurate advice, if they get the chance then you might end up with unexpected bills when too involved than necessary
Pete **********
@Matthew *******
Yes - probably the best advice!
Christopher ***********
If she needed to go to hospital why were the police not involved? Having said that, from experience, blame doesn't come into it and I'm almost certain the police would have made an order for you to pay for any medical treatment (not covered by Thai NHS), repair of her moto plus a mutually agreed amount of compensation for her injuries.
Serge **********
She probably has no insurance, bike probably not hers and probably no drivers permit. If the cops came , you are a fareng, if they have your coordinates, then she will try along with the cops get money from you, because you represent $$$. Hope that I am wrong. Did not read the other posts yet
Baz ********
Why did you bother asking this bunch of tw@ts for advice? Surely you knew their answers before posting? The reason they have run to Thailand is because they don’t have enough gumption to be anything in their own countries. Note that no one has actually answered the questions you asked.

If the daughter is being cooperative start with them signing a written statement admitting liability. Keep screenshots of online conversations in case they block you or dump their account. If it’s not progressing in your favour in a couple of days, go to the tourist police and get them to liaise with the traffic police for you.

Don’t just roll over and accept it. Losers doing that is exactly why the Thais think they can get away with it.

To almost everyone except the OP, call me anything you like I turned off notifications so you’re talking to yourself 🤣
James *******
@Baz *******
We just live in a place called reality. I see you are still looking for the off ramp.
Willie ********
You are going to come off second best, because you are a farang. Don't expect anything. Worse....she might want you to pay for damages, and compensation for her injuries. Good luck!
James *******
I had a truck pull out in front of me a couple years back. Police took his side while I was on my way to the hospital. I went out the next day took measurements and pictures and showed the guy was full of s*** and he paid for my bike my medical and new helmet and a new jacket. So it is worth a try. But if you did not get a police report. Your probably out of luck. They will take her word over yours. Because Thai people never lie.
John **********
Never move first at a green light. I learned my lesson
Pete **********
You may also find that all of a sudden the woman has a lot more injuries, and her bike suffered a lot more damage, - and the rich farang will pay for everything!!!
Joe ******
I'm glad I sold my bike and bought a pick up.
Merv ***********
Clowns .. some of them aren’t they.
Ron ******************
Mistake 1 you did not call your insurance, mistake 2 you don't have a police report and mistake 3 you asking advice on FB. Phone your insurance and talk to them. You could face paying the womens medical bills because you didn't follow the rules for handling accidents in Thailand.
Serge **********
@Ron *****************
is right, plus because they brought her to the hospital and you are not Thai but a foreigner , they probably brought her to the most expensive Hospital. Don’t get sucked in
Tudchapon ****************
Feel sorry for your accident. If you have any police report and already got the report from your insurance that should help. Without both cannot do anything much.
Kool *******
Without a police report insurance won't do anything.
Jeremy ********
Take out ฿20k to pay her…you’re a Falang so you’re obviously at fault
David ***********
She at fault
Оливер *********
I'd leave it as it is! Farang vers. Thai not much chance!

I had a case where two farangs were involved in a crash. The one with the most cash won the case, even as it was his fault!
Hamid *******
Talking by experience if there is a police report saying she’s wrong then she have to pay or you go to court it takes at least one year in court. If no police report you won’t receive anything. Usually the police will keep your bike until a certified mechanic give a damage estimation to avoid fraud.
David *********
As a foreigner it’s your fault
Lee ******
@David ********
if the foreigner wasn't in Thailand the accident wouldn't have happened
John **********
@David ********
incorrect. I had an accident and the Thai National paid for damages
John **********
1 at Maya Mall intersection and 1 in San Kampheang. Never paid a penny
David *********
@John *********
you were lucky, was that in a tourist area?
แมทธิว **************
You will get nothing just get the bike fixed and get a few quotes
James **********
If you weren't in Thailand, the accident would not have happened,TIT.....
Bruno ********
@James *********
How so? If not with him, with someone else. Staying home isn’t remedy for traffic accidents.
James **********
@Bruno *******
That is the Thai mindset.
Bruno ********
@James *********
Highly highly doubt this. You’re getting old mate…you’re not much longer for this earth. It’s time to radically change your outlook. Cheers.
J *************************
@Bruno *******
unfortunately idiots are also entitled to comment!
Glenn *********
Is this the hill you want to die on? Just get your own motorbike repaired and hope she doesn't come after you for HER bills.
Rob ******
@Glenn ********
I agree. While it sucks to pay the 15k THB, be glad she’s not coming for the medical bills and repair of her bike. Take the loss and learn to pay for good insurance.
Iliyan ***********
Well many of them have no insurance. So she most likely will have to pay for her stay. What did the police say? Did they take your motorbike? There is a chance they make you the guilty one and in that case you (or your insurance) will have to pay for her. You have to clarify her claim and then it's up to the police.
Robert ********
I am surprised the police didn’t take both bikes away until it is resolved to their satisfaction. That’s why you should have class 1 on a big bike and let the insurance company do the talking.
Andrew *********
Did you obtain a police report?
Rob **********
Highly unlikely she will have any insurance at all or possibly a license. It will be like getting blood from a stone, unfortunately it’s probably just best to fix the bike yourself, I doesn’t seem fair, but it happens all the time.
Ian *****
Good luck with getting anything, 15k is small amount of damage. I would probably pay it and move on.
Giorgio ******
Too bad en cas d'accident il faut appeler son assurance ( si on en a une) qui envoie un salarié faire les constats . Sinon good luck
Vic *********
Save yourself tons of trouble chasing her down and pay the 15k repair bill yourself. Chalk it up to experience and be thankful neither of you was hurt badly. If you do find her, she's likely to want you to pay her hospital bills and fix her bike. Let the sleeping dog lie.
Greg ************
I would be inclined to agree with
@Vic ********
here. I had a motorbike accident in Malaysia, and while I appreciate the finer details of the process may differ from Thailand it was a similar situation. Young driver in parents car, not indicating or checking before turning crosses my path and knocks me over.

I was riding an MT-07, had full insurance, and a very good relationship with my bike shop. I obtained my police report the same day, (required by law for any accident in Malaysia, not sure in Thailand) but regarding the claim, I opted not to pursue it.

I was told the insurance company would keep the bike for assessment purposes and basically hold it until the negotiation was concluded with the other party’s insurance company and although this was almost guaranteed to be in my favour it would take between 10-12 weeks to conclude. My bike shop (which also provided a crash/breakdown recovery service) quoted me the equivalent of THB 12k and 7 days to repair allowing for delivery of parts. To me it was a no brainer. His insurance company contacted me directly, asked if I was going to pursue and I said no, they asked me to sign a form confirming this and I said I wouldn’t be signing anything as I’d need to consult a lawyer as waiving my rights might cause future problems… But he stated if I wasn’t pursuing he would close the case. I never heard from them again and I was back on the road the following week.

I would get the police report (it will cover you against a counter claim). But unless covering the 15k is a problem for you, and/or you don’t need your bike for 2-3 months, I would get an agreement on Line from the other party that you will both cover your own damages (and save as evidence in case of a counter claim!) cross off one of your 9 lives and save yourself a world of grief 😉
Bruno ********
@Vic ********
I understand why you’d want to do this…but that’s the purpose of insurance & traffic laws.

Flawed as it is, the system exists to remedy these occurrences.
Vic *********
@Bruno *******
Hey, go for it then. If it were me, I'd cut my losses and the mental aggravation and move on. He's likely to lose more and not win anything in the end. Being right does not always mean you win.
Por *********
1) always call in insurance, regardless of who's at fault -in the case there is damage (to the riders or to the vehicles). They will take care of all the headaches, paperwork + disputes. ---and determines who was at fault

2) Even if the lady cut in, without any video proof, they can still argue that they turned in at last second of yellow light = they still had right of way (yes! even though your side already turned green).

You can ask Bangkok Metro for the camera footage from that intersection.

Again, if you called in insurance, you would not be doing all these

3) Even if your light turns green, ALWAYS be wary of this kind of accident. It happens all the time.
Karim ***************
Unlikely she will have insurance.
Bruno ********
@Karim **************
Don’t all registered motorbikes carry compulsory insurance included in annual registration?
Karim ***************
@Bruno *******
not all bikes are registered, not all bikes are taxed and not all drivers have licences. This is Thailand.
Bruno ********
@Karim **************
Fair. But if properly registered, then insurance should cover it I thought
Karim ***************
@Bruno *******
more likely to be registered if they’re in central bangkok or other major cities. The in between locations, no chance.
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