Why is my O-A visa not reflected in my new passport?

Nov 26, 2019

5 years ago

ORIGINAL POSTER

Hello,

When I had 50 years old, I got an O-A visa in Paris, then I had many other O-A visas from Paris as, for many years, I didn't do extension of stay but a fresh new visa every year or every two years. Then I started to do extensions of stay (the last 4 years in fact). That spans on many years and so I had to change my passport in 2018.

I just check my previous passport, every visa form from Paris were clearly O-A (not written by hand but computer typed on). 

But yesterday, I just had a look at my new passport and, on the firtst two pages, where the Immigration did the stamp "transfert" of the visa, everywhere it is clearly written NON-O or NON-RET or a latge RETIMENT full red stamp.

There is no more any reference to an O-A visa in my new passport. I checked every stamps of the Immigration, no thing like O-A.

So what do you think about that ? 

Should I go with all my passeport to the Immigration and asking why I'm no more O-A ? Or should I play "low" profil and act as a NON-0 retired guy ?

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TLDR : Answer Summary

The user is confused about why their new passport shows NON-O and NON-RET stamps instead of an O-A visa, which they previously held. They have a history of renewing O-A visas in Paris and have now been issued a new passport, where there seem to be inconsistencies regarding their visa status. The community discusses whether the user should confront immigration about the discrepancies or maintain a low profile regarding their visa status.

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Bernard ********

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5 years ago

Bernard ********

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@Tod ********

If I remember well, 2013 was the last time I made a new fresh visa in France. Then in 2014, I was operated in CM and can't go to Paris that year so I made a quick trip to Mae Sai to get a second year on the same visa. It's this one entry which is reported in the first page of the new passport.

Then after that, I just made extensions of stay in CM, even if I go at least one time a year to Paris.

So, what do you think about, Tod ? Any advice ? I think that I will play what you suggested just before : do my extension early as possible in CM and see what happens…

I don't mind to break the chain to start again with a NON-O. I will plan every possibility.

If, later, they decide to push insurance obligation to NON-O, I will have time to think about other solution, like 20 years Elite. If I'm "obliged" to go that way, I prefer to do it as late as possible as if I stay in life more than 20 years after I took the Elite, nowhere is explained what happens. Seems like they didn't take this possibility in account when they create the Elite card. Nowadays, 20 years is not so much when you are just 61 years old.

5 years ago

Tod *********

that cleary shows a Non-O

BUT that one stamp below it on the left (which also says Non-O) shows a year entry july 23 2014 until july 22 2015 <- that can ONLY be gotten off an O-A (as it's a year minus a day) :O

5 years ago

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Tod *********

If there is not one single stamp in your current passport that denotes you started your yearly extension of stays off an O-A visa I'd say just apply for your next yearly extension like normal. BUT do it early just in case you're knocked back for needing thai insurance and not having it.

You're out nothing by trying. Most offices allow you to apply for a new extension when you have 30 days or less left on your current extension (Bangkok, Buriram, Chiang Mai & Phuket are 45 days or less).

5 years ago

Bernard ********

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@Tod ********

hi Tod. yes I have this stamp on first page of the new passport it is a clear NON-O.

5 years ago

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Bernard ********

Tod *********

Look on the first page where you had your stamps transferred from the original passport that had the visa in it. it should clearly show

like this

5 years ago

Luke ******

What has he got to win by mentioning it? Nothing.

What has he got to lose by mentioning it? His extension, unless he buys insurance.

What has he got to win by not mentioning it? An extension without insurance.

What has he got to lose by not mentioning it? Nothing, worst case they notice it, and they refuse to extend without insurance, which will happen anyway if he mentions it.

I believe they won't.

Play dumb, how can you remember O / O-A whatever, are you an Immigration specialist or...

You're not lying, you simply have no idea. (like many actually don't).

Not everybody spends time on forums, let's be serious.

PS: Many people would also shred old passports (in the shredder) -document destroyer if they don't understand -, to prevent identity theft.

5 years ago

Robert *******

And what do you think to achieve by playing a low profile NON-O retired guy? All the data in the computer database will not change by playing low profile. Immigration Officers are humans, mistakes can be made and the best part, it is your passport, you are responsible to check if the stamps are correct and inform them if not.

5 years ago

Bernard ********

ORIGINAL POSTER

Thank you

@Robert ******

Have a good night.

5 years ago

Robert *******

i guess he used the info of the computer and checked your papers. But your choice, leave it as it is or go back and get it corrected.

5 years ago

Bernard ********

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That's still strange that when I made my last extension of stay, six months atfer the transfert of the stamps, the officer with who I spoke to didn't noticed from the computer that the stamps transfered were not correclty labelled.

5 years ago

Bernard ********

ORIGINAL POSTER

OK so I have to go to speak with them. Because I want to be sure of how to manage correctly next jully when I will have to extend my visa, or find an alternative at that time.

5 years ago

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Bernard ********

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