Why do I keep facing questioning at immigration with my DTV visa in Thailand?

Anonymous participant 986 What issues you had with females? Could be the appearance maybe????? your appearance or theirs?? l😉

@Andi **********

ohh different kinds... Questions asked even after not coming for over 2 years to Thailand and even go to the designated area for questioning... I was really surprised. I know it's their right but still surprised because I left Thailand after a few weeks, then returned after a few days and had a male officer..happily stamped without any hesitation.

And this kinda stuff happened so many times within past years.

Talking about the travelers appearance not theirs.

But like I said, maybe it's all just a big coincidence 🤣

Nevertheless, I'll stick to the male IO if I can and suggest others to try too if they have repeat issues with females.

Why make life harder if there is a simple solution ☺️

Anonymous participant 986 ok, I see . It does seem more of a big coincidence but if sticking to the guys works for you then just continue.m

@Richard *****

You don't need a return ticket with a DTV.

@Richard *****

I just went last week and they didn't ask for a return ticket actually, and I didn't have one either.

@Richard *****

Yes I got in, chances are they won't even ask you.

@Greg *******

Still, I don't normally make flight plans 6 months in advance. It's too far out. Most I would plan is maybe a couple months out.

@Richard *****

You cannot stay 5 years continuously.

Yes I know this

@Greg *******

@Richard *****

So why would anyone need to book a flight 5 years out then. The notion is nonsense

@Greg *******

not only nonsense it’s impossible!

@Alain *********

I Chiang Mai Immigration Office and Land Transport Office I have only dealt with women. They have been great. In fact at immigration she even gave me leeway on length of my bank statement. If she had been a stickler could have made it awkward. When I worked in Thailand it was 99% Thai women in Big Pharma clinical research. When I employed Project Managers it was only Thai women. It think they are great :-)

BeachDude the fact that i worked as an intern at an embassy travel for a living and have a brother that works in us customs and just common sense really. I also have seen the abuse some people have done to the system that i dont see this visa staying longer at list in its current form. Its not sustainable. All other visas are been screwed proviledge business etc. why would someone apply for those just why? I have seen countless of people do the math and move into this one so sooner or later someone in the goverment is going to see the trend and make the adjustments. Mark my words and save this message the thai always figure it out if you give them time. To be in “status” as per the visa terms you have to be enrolled at a school if you use the soft route . This is how you got your visa and everytime you enter the country the officer is supposed to check your status. This visa is so new and open to misuse fraud etc that with sometime they will learn there are just too many people that have gotten this visa that should not have. At that point all they have to do is build an interphase where you have to upload your classes every couple of months. Than they will make this schools confirm that you are paying and thus qualify for the visa. Like in covid times they had a list of hotels sha or someting like that. As for the business owners they can require you to resubmit financial statements etc. The DTV is a tourist visa after alll hope this helps 🙏

@Guillermo ********

yet more conjecture

BeachDude BROHER PLEASE Conjecture 🤣 i really got a kick out of this one PLEASE save this post . I will actually save it myself as a matter of fact. The thais will figure it out just give them time they always do. The reason why this madness is still on is because the visa is ralative new and it has not affected them financially yet. Once they see the numbers of the proviledge,investment even marriage visas decline im sure someone will come up with some kind of verification for the soft route options. There is where most of the abuse has been done. Attaching a guy that got the visa recently he can potencially stay in thailand for 5 years yet he only sign up for one month worth of classes. Maybe this is sustainable in your world but NOT HERE NOT IN THAILAND WHERE THEY REALLY LOOK AT THIS THINGS CLOSELY. I dont see the visa staying around at least not in its current form Good luck 🙏

@Shandy *******

I’m talking about extension after six months you gotta pay the fees again so you can continue your cooking classes on paper so when you come to immigration, you can show them that you’re an active student

@Peter ********

true lol 🙏🤣

@Dany *******

yup, they can’t cancel the visa. They can just stop doing the DTVs. Also, who’s to say you won’t carry on with more cooking classes …

@Dany *******

its their country man they make the rules not us unfortunately. A visa is just a paper that allows you to go to a country thats it. I have a brother that works at customs in the US. I feel your your pain but this again Is a TOURIST VISA ONCE THEY ARE ABLE TO SEE THE AMOUNT OF FRAUD , ABUSE SOME PEOPLE HAVE COMMITTED HERE THEY WILL MAKE ADJUSTMENTS AT THE PORTS OF ENTRY . I have been here only a couple of days and have already identified many people that do not qualify for this visa. Just by the way they make their comments. Save this comment in a couple of months if not days you will see i was right. All the best my man 🙏

@Guillermo ********

but i was mainly talking about the technicality behind it. the MFA issues you the visa. a totaly different authority than the Immigration. The Immigration issues you an extension of stay (which they could cancel). so they would not have the authority to cancel your visa.

@Dany *******

Brother some immigration people do not even understand this visa . I have seen people given wrong stamps etc . If an immigration officer decides to deport you all he must to is notify the MFA do you think someone there will help you? Thailand immigration IS LIKE A GOD AT THE PORT OF ENTRY as well as other immigration in the world. THEY HAVE FINAL DISCRETION ON WHO THEY LET IN AND ON WHAT GROUNDS. There are no courts to appeal… nothing you can do. You can always try in another airport but the next guy will see what the other guy did and there is a 0.1 chance they will challenge your inadmissibility. I could be wrong by a travel for a living and have learned this the hard way. Hope to be wrong though but i anticipate issues with the soft routes as someone can just take a class for a month and potentially stay 5 years from an immigration standpoint “ OUT OF STATUS” as you no longer take classes 🙏

@Guillermo ********

no one can take a class for just a month. You have wrong information. It’s ATLEAST a minimum of 6 months.

Anonymous participant 274 check this one …. Hope this helps 🙏

@Peter ********

That's what I thought too, but quite a few people assume that IOs know their visa option.

rrrr

@Shandy *******

That's mainly people who applied via workation and assume theirs is superior to others.

@Aaron ****

DTV Visa isn’t a tourist visa though.

@Mark ********

im sorry, a glorified step up from tourist visa. Yes its a long stay visa, we all know that, but its nothing more than a “tourist-type” visa, was making a point. It’s nothing special and immigration has every right to ask you whatever questions they want.

@Mark ********

DTV is a tourist visa.

@Guillermo ********

What fraud? What kind of fraud could you possible do with a DTV visa?

@Travelling *******

you could register for a cooking class or a gym class for a month while you are getting your visa and once your visa is obtained than decide to just stop going to school and overstay “ out of status” as per the conditions in which you got the visa. This is what i mean by fraud as there is no verification system as of yet to check if you remain “ in status” as per your visa terms. This im sure will change in the coming months to maintain the integrity of the system 🙏

@Guillermo ********

I also agree with that. Immigration hasn't changed the way it operates as people have been questioned on other visas as well. It's the current government that has tried to introduce a new visa with ridiculous requirements (far too easy for some), leading to discrepancies between visa types, and even between DTV holders (workation and Soft Power).

Anonymous participant 852 I really dont see these soft options staying around much longer . As a matter of fact i anticipate visa cancellations as you no longer take clases etc. Why are you here? Mmmm well i was taking gym classes. You have no classes ok i will cancel this visa without prejudice and give you 2 months “ normal tourist stamp” to adjust status if you want to stay here as you no longer qualify under DTV admittance rules . Worst part the DTV might not be even available once this take place. My 2 cents 🙏

@Guillermo ********

Wondering if they could push an E System where papers need to be updated and checked as they do now with visas application. It's already done when extending with immigration so why not.

Anonymous participant 852 its thailand they will figure it out and again if i had to put money on it no warning will be given so some will just find out the hard way. Hope to be wrong as this will upset alot of people 🙏