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What options does my 65-year-old friend have after his 60-day visa was refused due to multiple entries?

Apr 30, 2025
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Robert *******
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Friend of my is flying back via France and just had his 60 visa refuses because last year and begins of this year he made multiple entries. He's 65 years old and has the 80k in a thai bank but insurance for him is to much. What are his options.
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A 65-year-old expat had his 60-day visa refused due to multiple entries over the past year and lacking sufficient health insurance, despite having 800,000 Baht in a Thai bank. Commenters suggest applying for a Non-O Retirement Visa, which does not require health insurance if applied for outside of Thailand. It is advised to refrain from relying on visa-exempt entries for long-term stays and to ensure proper documentation before traveling.
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Jordee ******
Solution: buy a visa and re-enter.
Robert *******
ORIGINAL POSTER
@Jordee *****
where can you buy from uk. That's what I'm asking
Jordee ******
@Robert ******
Embassy ?
Brook ********
If he doesn’t have enough money to be insurance, he doesn’t have enough money to pay for emergency health care and therefore represents an unnecessary burden to Thailand… and your friend should probably stay home.
Robert *******
ORIGINAL POSTER
@Brook *******
he has
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0 in a thai bank and when I spent 5 days in hospital 2 operating and and food everything else it only came to
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0. The problem with insurance if you don't get before your 60 it cost so much it's not worth it. Yes if you need intensive care it will cost risk worth taking as not that many need intensive care and most have funds in the UK that will cover
Robert ********
He should get the basic nonO (not OA!) for retirement. No insurance needed.

And then get the yearly extension. But make sure the immigration accepts the money in the Thai bank (they had me prove that the money came from outside).
Liam ***********
Everybody’s got their own opinion on this but no hard and fast rules, I am retiring to Thailand later on in the year but this year and last year I have been in and out on a 60 day five times and never once had any questions asked
Lynnette *******
@Liam **********
of course opinions can differ, but the rules are what is relevant even if not always enforced. When they are, it's no good saying but Joe Blogs said he's never been asked.
Ian ********
@Lynnette ******
What rules are you referring to ?
Lynnette *******
The rules on coming in and out on visa-exempt as a tourist but trying to live here without the visa.
Ian ********
@Lynnette ******
What rules ? Please clearly state them and where you got this information ?
Lynnette *******
@Ian *******
immigration and embassy. Not sure why you're unaware there are certain rules and requirements immigration can enforce if they wish.
Ian ********
@Lynnette ******
The only requirements for entering visa exempt are outbound ticket ,
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baht or equivalent in foreign currency and accommodation booking.
Lynnette *******
@Ian *******
yes, those are rules for visa exempt. So why were you asking me about rules? Lol.
Ian ********
Everyone knows those rules .
Ian ********
@Lynnette ******
Because it has nothing to do with the original post !
Lynnette *******
@Ian *******
it has to do with my comment, that it's best not to rely on other people saying "I've never been asked" which you kept questioning. Then asked where were the rules. . you then posted those rules 🤦. Perhaps you're bored and just want to create some sort of argument. Pointless one.
Ian ********
@Lynnette ******
It's just annoying when people post something off topic , creating a pointless thread.
Lynnette *******
@Ian *******
You started the pointless thread. I replied to someone said they'd "never been asked" and I suggested it's best not to rely on others claims. . .You jumped in to start non stop demands to know what rules are in place and where. Even when I told you, there were more demands to know where. Bizarre.
Ian ********
@Lynnette ******
Like I said , please state .
Ian ********
I don't understand this post , did he get denied entry at immigration whilst trying to enter on visa exempt or did his online tourist visa application get refused or both ?
Damo ***********
Get 90 day Non Immigrant “O” visa that does not require insurance.

Then when arrived work out the thai bank and money etc.

Dont think you said what type of Visa he tried to enter with
Samantha *******
multi-entry tourist visa - valid 6 months then he can sort what he can do. No need insurance or show bank balance.
Arnold **********
Stay home
Diana *******
@Brandon ***********
wondering how you know so much correct advice? From what I can see you’re not a moderator or admin of the group but you always seem spot on. Thanks.
Brandon ************
@Diana ******
I am a moderator. And I read every post from multiple Facebook groups focused on this topic for years.
Diana *******
@Brandon ***********
oh thanks. Have you lived in Thailand for a long time?
Brandon ************
@Diana ******
off and on since Covid. Not too long
Stéfan ********
What you’re trying to say is that he is doing back to back visa exemptions. That’s usually tolerated once, but I’m not surprised he’s having problems. Either you space your visits (3 months in, 2-3 months out) or obtain the correct visa to live in Thailand.
Dragan **********
You cannot do multi entry on a 60 day visa exempt.
Alan ********
You can get a multi entry non o visa also
Len *****
@Alan *******
the non o visa gives 90 days it can’t be extended unless you have 800k in a Thai bank
Graham ******
@Alan *******
Not since the eVisa system rolled-out 1-Jan does anywhere offer the 12 month multi-entry Non-O
Rok ********
Easiest to apply for non-o through local embassy. The London embassy certainly does not require a health insurance and neither does the extension in BKK. Non-OA however does require a health insurance as does the Non-OX i believe.
John **********
I suspect he didn't have a visa at all and that he tried to enter visa exempt. Basically he's been spending too much time in Thailand on an entry stamp designed for short term tourism and they are really cracking down on this at the moment. The solution is for him to go to a Thai consulate and apply for the correct visa for his purpose of visiting Thailand. Hint: That's not a tourist visa.
Nicholas ******
Best options?…stay in France do us all a favour
Did *****
@Nicholas *****
with that charm, no wonder you're so eager to stay in Thailand. Home clearly wasn’t working out.
Robert *******
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Sean **********
90 day Non-O for retirement can be extended one year at a time. Medical insurance is not required but the financial requirement is 800k in a Thai bank ( NOT 80K)
Arne *********
@Sean *********
Hva er betegnelsen på beløpene ? Snakkes det om Bat eller Kroner?
Steven *******
There is so much wrong with this post.
Robert *******
ORIGINAL POSTER
Steven *******
@Robert ******
Friend of my? Should be friend of mine.

60 visa? Should be visa-exempt

refuses? Should be refused.

begins of this year?Should be beginning of this year.

80k in a Thai bank? So what.

to much? Should be too much.
Peter **********
@Steven ******
So you can read and understand the post! Very good! Now what is “so much wrong” with the post?
Gayeeva ******
Kevin ******
Sounds like an inherent risk regardless of his account balance.
Brandon ************
Your friend needs to get the non-O retirement visa from a Thai embassy BEFORE they travel to Thailand. That visa does not require insurance whether you get it in Thailand or at the embassy. And since they cannot enter without a real visa, that's going to be their only option. It also requires 800,000 baht, not 80,000 baht.
Nongnuch ********
@Brandon ***********
I think I have read something somewhere about a 90-days travel insurance requirement for an application to a 90-days Non-Imm-O Retirement Visa. But I cannot remember which Thai embassy that was . . . . could it be London?
Will ************
@Nongnuch *******
there is no insurance requirement for the 90 day non-o . I’m here on on now
Brandon ************
@Nongnuch *******
I haven't seen any embassy require that in years. That was a Covid requirement.
Robert *******
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@Brandon ***********
incorrect he need a criminal check and insurance. First not a problem second problem
Anna *********
@Robert ******
nope. If your friend is relying on you for advice he is not going to get what he needs as your knowledge appears to be limited
Brandon ************
@Robert ******
He does not need any of those. You need to learn the difference between visas before you start giving incorrect information.
Mikkel *******
@Robert ******
criminal check and insurance are requirements for a non OA one year visa. Notice the A at the end. For a 90 day non O, there are no such requirements.
Lynnette *******
@Robert ******
that's maybe a non-OA. Not a non-O. He can apply for the correct visa online in UK if he lives there. Others have done this. Think someone has given him and you incorrect info.
Pertti *************
Hyvin harvinaista että 60 päivän tr viisumi hylätään rajalla! Oliko hänellä rahaa vaadittava summa mukana?
Jiji ***********
Do you mean he was denied entry on a 60 day tourist visa?

If he had already made multiple entries this year, as in, had lots of visa-exempt stamps, that is indeed the risk you take. You cannot live here on temporary short term tourism stays, eventually you will run out of luck.

Generally, if over 50 years old and with 800,000 Baht in a Thai bank, a retirement visa would be the best option.

If not, then getting a DTV on soft power grounds (as in, sign up for a Thai cooking course).
Robert *******
ORIGINAL POSTER
@Jiji **********
yes trying to to get another 60 day but obviously theys stop from today so he is unsure and willing to pay a agent just to get into Thailand so he can then sort out a visa from here
Lynnette *******
@Robert ******
he can apply for non-O visa ( to come and retire) at Thai embassy on-line in UK. No insurance needed. Then when he arrives in Thailand go to immigration and do extension for 12 months.
Wayne ********
@Lynnette ******
I believe he said he couldn’t afford the insurance which if you apply from the UK is required
Lynnette *******
@Wayne *******
it's not. It's only if you apply for the Non-OA. But if you apply for the Non-O retirement there's no insurance required.
Bob **********
@Robert ******
apply for a visa wherever he was denied
Neath ********
@Bob *********
how many times had he done the 60 days exemption and 30 days extention?
Nigel *******
I have been a few times recently, but going on a None O this time, this can be extended for a year, and does not require insurance.
Robert *******
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@Nigel ******
year to get a o visa once here not required however if applying for UK its a requirement
Lynnette *******
@Robert ******
you don't need insurance if applying in UK for non-O visa.
Nongnuch ********
@Robert ******
it could be a London Embassy specific rule: the London Embassy might require a 90-day health insurance when you apply for the 90-days Non-Imm-O Retirement visa. When he goes from the visa to the 1-year extension of stay inside Thailand, he doesn't need an insurance any more. Tell him to apply for the 90-days single entry Non-Imm-O Visa and go from there
Graham ******
@Nongnuch *******
no the RTE London does not
Eric *********
It would be helpful if you could be specific about the number and length of his multiple entries.
Robert *******
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@Eric ********
he's been coming for 60 day returned 30 days later on most occasions
Eric *********
@Robert ******
How many times?
Ian ********
@Robert ******
So are you saying he spent a total of 8 months on visa exempt and 4 months out of Thailand in the last year ?
Graham ******
Get the correct Visa not rely on free Visa Exempt entries for longer term stays
Stuart *********
Not really sure what you’re meaning here. Your friend was denied entry to Thailand or they were refused boarding by the airline?

80k in a Thai bank is sort of irrelevant.
Robert *******
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@Stuart ********
he applied on line for 60 day visa and it was rejected because of the amount of entry he had in the past year
Ian ********
@Robert ******
How many times had he entered and how long did he stay ?
Ant ******
@Stuart ********
I think he means 800,000
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