A friend of mine was turned back at BKK. He had gone in and out too many times. He is back in Canada now. Other than going through the Embassy, paying his fees and getting rejected, how can he tell if he would be able to apply for a VISA now?
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A user's friend was denied entry at Bangkok's airport (BKK) after multiple border crossings and returned to Canada. While there's speculation about the reasons and policies, the consensus is that he can apply for a visa, but that doesn't guarantee entry. Many responses emphasize the discretion of immigration officials and the importance of maintaining a proper travel history. Suggestions include waiting a few months before attempting to re-enter Thailand and considering alternative visa options.
You just need to be aware that immigration in Thailand š¹š is sharing data with other countries. They can see your whole travel history going back years. I would imagine with AI they can search patterns in any data
Joe **********
He can get a safe entry check through an agent. Gets screened before and fast tracked & stamped in.
Steve **********
They are panicking due to low tourist numbers and high bhat and they turn tourists away due to going to Thailand too often ...go figure!š¤
Frank **********
There are clear rules unlimited entries but Immigration Officers have the power to ignore them. Just like I believe every Immigration Office should have the same procedures and not deviate by adding extra requirements.
Simon ********
I'm wanting to stay 90 days in Thailand. My understanding is I organise a 60 day visa in Aus prior to departing for Thailand then request a 30 day extension when in Thailand.Is this correct ?
The 60 days is given as visa exempt still you will just bd stamped in for 60 days at airport immigration, to get the 30 day extension go to your nearest immigration office fill the form in and pay 1900baht its that easy !
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Frankie *******
Go to Da Nang n Phoc qouc in Vietnam far much better trust me it's awesome place to visit n its cheaper
Ivan *********
Can't understand Thailand that's money they have sent back .the numbers of visitors to Thailand is down on last year .you think they would let people 90 days on arrival.
Peter ******
If you seek to find ways around a simple visa system and subsequently get found out don't complain, it's your fault !
I thought I was going to get turned away a couple of months ago,the IO called her supervisor & he took me into his office, he asked me a few questions, then said that the Thai government was poor & i should pay for the next visa. But he let me in & gave me 60 days š
There is no official rule on how long you can stay in Thailand and how often you can enter visa-exempt or on a touristic visa. It is up to the sole discretion of a border official. If he thinks you are misusing visa-exempt entries for a longstay in Thailand, he has the right to refuse entry. He can even refuse if you are on a real visa. Your total stamp history of the recent 365 days will be checked. After a refusal, you have been "flagged" in the Central Computer, so you better stay away from Thailand for a few months before you try to enter again, because every Immigration official can see that you have been warned as soon as they scan your passport. Even using a new passport doesn't help
Bob ********
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how many is a few? that is my question
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Matthew **********
A 6 month gap solves all these problems.
Luca *******
This year I stayed 15 days in February then I came back for another 15 days in April, next time I'll come back in July for two months, could I have problems?
Free 60 day visa exempt entry stamp extendable another 30 days, available to more than 90 passports. These days more than 2 such entries back to back will raise eyebrows
I did 5 such entries in 2024 and Iām presently on my 3rd such entry for 2025. I stay between 30 and 45 days each time and go back to Canada for 4 or 5 weeks before returning. No eyebrows have been raised so far but I always fulfill all the entry requirements (money, address, and departure flight).
Believe it or not he could fly back tomorrow and if he has an exit flight within his visa period they cannot by law send you back and this is why itās sometimes best to fly to maybe Vietnam or somewhere close
Then fly in to Bangkok because they can only send you back to where you flew from
they will stamp your passport and give you the reason, which in most cases is called "Section 12, paragraph 2". There is no official rule on how long you can stay in Thailand and how often you can enter visa-exempt or on a touristic visa. It is up to the sole discretion of a border official. If he thinks you are misusing visa-exempt entries for a longstay in Thailand, he has the right to refuse entry. He can even refuse if you are on a real visa
could be 4 last year, but since there is no written law limiting stays on visa exemptions to X days and they did not receive a warning in the past, itās irrelevant. The fact that they also force you to fly back half across the world is also an insult. No wonder whenever I go to Cambodia, or Vietnam I can overhear expats complaining about Thailand
there is a clearly written law you're either a tourist or you're trying to stay here a long time The law says if you're a tourist you can apply for a tourist visa or visa exempt, if you're not don't try and fool us
thatās not a law as it does not define what a tourist is and how long he can stay. A norm unless it clearly states the conditions that lead to breaking it is not a rule, but merely a vague statement
most countries send you back to the same country you departed from. Nothing unusual about that and not Thailand specific. So your implication of an insult is actually insulting.
yes its on the immigration officer if he wishes to be here then pay for a tourist visa with unlimited entry per year. I dont undsrstand why people feel entitled to skate and abuse the system visa exempt is for tourism and visit not to be manipulated to stay here as long as you wish
I ll buy a tourist visa when it will state clearly that I can spend more than 90 days a year with it. Otherwise itās no better than the 30+30 that I ve been doing twice a year for a long time
ok then what you gonna say when they stop you at the border and not allowed to come back in on exempt ? Congratulations you are the reason why they are cracking down.
i never did border runs, or spent more than 4 months on visa exempt, but this does not mean they should not write a proper law helping us understand how long a stay is permitted for each status. It seems that until not too long ago you could just do border runs for ever, knew a case as recent as last year, where they did 5 border runs, but I am not so desperate as to attempt such a feat
Only smart people will do border bounce. There is no need for a proper visa at all.
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Jordan *****
So no warning in the past and they were forced to fly back to Canada. What a joke of an immigration policy. Meanwhile there are companies advertising assisted border runsā¦ā¦
You're making a hell of a lot of assumptions. Where did he say his "friend" was never warned in the past? Perhaps he had plenty of warning and ignored it. Where did it say he was sent back to Canada? He just said he is in Canada now.
well, people should just get the correct visa and not try to bypass the system. I imagine they see it over and over again. People try to live there on visa exemptions šŗ
when I lived in Panama the same problem came up with expats doing border hops and returning from Costa Rica because nothing said you couldnāt. Like Thailand Panama had no clear rules on amount of time.
People were following the rules as laid out. Panamanian government finally changed the laws requiring to having to be out of the country for 6 months once you had been in country for the legal limit of six months unless you were allowed to stay by a long term visa.
perhaps they should make clear rules. If someone comes in visa exempt for 60 days and does a 30 day exemption and then leaves for a week then returns for another 60 days visa exempt and again extends for 30 days. Then travels out of Thailand for 1 to 2 months and again returns for 60days visa exemptāwhere does it say he has been here too long other than the immigration officer? The next immigration officer two stations down would let him in!
maybe you prefer the American way, where they throw you in the detention center with 500 other people in the middle of nowhere a thousand miles away from your entry point where you're not heard of for 3 weeks
Iāve been travelling for decades, first visit to Thailand in 1999, never had any problems with them.
But I believe that immigration law has to be clearly stated and rejections should be bases only on clear reasons (no funds to maintain yourself, reasonable suspicion you are working ilegally, past criminal record and so on), not rules like āI did not like the guys faceā, or maybe today I feel like using my discretionary powers as an immigration officer
no warning in the past but forced to fly back to Singapore which he had gone for a week's visit, this is after doing a border run,, i know it was a bad decision
I was thinking about using a border bounce service that I found, but I travel a lot by land and air and I am afraid if I use them a few times im Thailand, then leave for like Japan, and I try to come back without being covered by these guys, I might have trouble, something I am not keen on after 24 years of visiting without being questioned once
yes. unless they make a clear law that allows me to know whether I am staying to long, or not.
I knew their policies concerning visa exemptions were shit since a decade ago, that s why I never spend more than 4 months a year when I don t have a visa, but I am not suprised people try border runs.
I actually donāt care much when they turn away people on border runs, as they can explore the adjacent countries, but being turned away at the airport and losing thousands of dollars is a disproportionate punishment, especially when paid border runs are still taking place with impunity
1. You donāt need to bother. 2. For Many people under 50, there is no obvious solution to their visa needs. So border bounces exist and thrive. The DTV solves the problems for many, but not all
exactly get the correct visa and no issues, bending the rules to break point and now with DATC it's easier to be denied and then whine and winge of social media.