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What options does a person have after being turned back at BKK for frequent entries?

Jun 13, 2025
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Bob ********
ORIGINAL POSTER
A friend of mine was turned back at BKK. He had gone in and out too many times. He is back in Canada now. Other than going through the Embassy, paying his fees and getting rejected, how can he tell if he would be able to apply for a VISA now?
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TLDR : Answer Summary
A user's friend was denied entry at Bangkok's airport (BKK) after multiple border crossings and returned to Canada. While there's speculation about the reasons and policies, the consensus is that he can apply for a visa, but that doesn't guarantee entry. Many responses emphasize the discretion of immigration officials and the importance of maintaining a proper travel history. Suggestions include waiting a few months before attempting to re-enter Thailand and considering alternative visa options.
Steve ********
You just need to be aware that immigration in Thailand šŸ‡¹šŸ‡­ is sharing data with other countries. They can see your whole travel history going back years. I would imagine with AI they can search patterns in any data
Joe **********
He can get a safe entry check through an agent. Gets screened before and fast tracked & stamped in.
Steve **********
They are panicking due to low tourist numbers and high bhat and they turn tourists away due to going to Thailand too often ...go figure!šŸ¤”
Frank **********
There are clear rules unlimited entries but Immigration Officers have the power to ignore them. Just like I believe every Immigration Office should have the same procedures and not deviate by adding extra requirements.
Simon ********
I'm wanting to stay 90 days in Thailand. My understanding is I organise a 60 day visa in Aus prior to departing for Thailand then request a 30 day extension when in Thailand.Is this correct ?
Michael ********
@Simon *******
The 60 days is given as visa exempt still you will just bd stamped in for 60 days at airport immigration, to get the 30 day extension go to your nearest immigration office fill the form in and pay 1900baht its that easy !
Frankie *******
Go to Da Nang n Phoc qouc in Vietnam far much better trust me it's awesome place to visit n its cheaper
Ivan *********
Can't understand Thailand that's money they have sent back .the numbers of visitors to Thailand is down on last year .you think they would let people 90 days on arrival.
Peter ******
If you seek to find ways around a simple visa system and subsequently get found out don't complain, it's your fault !
Raquel ********
@Peter *****
simple 😳
Alan *****
I thought I was going to get turned away a couple of months ago,the IO called her supervisor & he took me into his office, he asked me a few questions, then said that the Thai government was poor & i should pay for the next visa. But he let me in & gave me 60 days šŸ˜
Nongnuch ********
@Bob *******
There is no official rule on how long you can stay in Thailand and how often you can enter visa-exempt or on a touristic visa. It is up to the sole discretion of a border official. If he thinks you are misusing visa-exempt entries for a longstay in Thailand, he has the right to refuse entry. He can even refuse if you are on a real visa. Your total stamp history of the recent 365 days will be checked. After a refusal, you have been "flagged" in the Central Computer, so you better stay away from Thailand for a few months before you try to enter again, because every Immigration official can see that you have been warned as soon as they scan your passport. Even using a new passport doesn't help
Bob ********
ORIGINAL POSTER
how many is a few? that is my question
Matthew **********
A 6 month gap solves all these problems.
Luca *******
This year I stayed 15 days in February then I came back for another 15 days in April, next time I'll come back in July for two months, could I have problems?
Bernard ************
Bob *********
Wait till January and start the visa exempt journey for another 6 mounths
Steven *********
Can he help himself or are you his baby sitter ??
เดแคคน ***********
Can get a visa but that only slightly increases your chances of getting especially if it's a short-term visa like a SETV or METV
Ocu ****
Are you saying your friend did border runs and never had a visa at all, like tourist visa?
Richard ***********
Define too many times !! Absolute crock
Frank **********
What are the limits to coming and going in a year?
Bob *********
6 months a year before you need a DTV
Richard ***********
@Frank *********
million baht question !
Wayne *******
@Frank *********
Up to the discretion of the IO. FAFO seems to be the new norm šŸ˜†
Wayne *******
If he has been on visa exempts, its fair to say the system has caught up with him and is where he shoud be! Tough shit
Wannikea *********
Your friend must have been living under a rock in Thailand to think he could milk exempt entries
Richard ***********
@Wannikea ********
define exempt entries and how many you can do
Graham ******
@Richard **********
you can do as many as you can until you can't
Wannikea *********
@Richard **********
Free 60 day visa exempt entry stamp extendable another 30 days, available to more than 90 passports. These days more than 2 such entries back to back will raise eyebrows
Andy *******
@Wannikea ********
I did 5 such entries in 2024 and I’m presently on my 3rd such entry for 2025. I stay between 30 and 45 days each time and go back to Canada for 4 or 5 weeks before returning. No eyebrows have been raised so far but I always fulfill all the entry requirements (money, address, and departure flight).
Graham ******
@Andy ******
Not maxing out your stay and returning home not border bouncing, a good strategy
Richard ***********
@Wannikea ********
raised eyebrows don’t stop me coming in
Brandon ************
@Richard **********
But the immigration officer will
Richard ***********
Believe it or not he could fly back tomorrow and if he has an exit flight within his visa period they cannot by law send you back and this is why it’s sometimes best to fly to maybe Vietnam or somewhere close

Then fly in to Bangkok because they can only send you back to where you flew from
Richard ********
@Richard **********
Nope, they can also tell you to go back to your passport country.
Graham ******
@Richard **********
the law says the Immigration Officer has the power or discretion to refuse entry to anyone
Mark *******
Whilst operating under Thai Immigration Law!
Richard ***********
@Graham *****
I’d want it all in writing with reasons
Craig *******
Neil ********
@Richard **********
you can want whatever you want
Nongnuch ********
@Richard **********
they will stamp your passport and give you the reason, which in most cases is called "Section 12, paragraph 2". There is no official rule on how long you can stay in Thailand and how often you can enter visa-exempt or on a touristic visa. It is up to the sole discretion of a border official. If he thinks you are misusing visa-exempt entries for a longstay in Thailand, he has the right to refuse entry. He can even refuse if you are on a real visa
Richard ********
@Richard **********
Yep, you'll get a stamp in your passport and a reason.
เดแคคน ***********
@Richard **********
and you would be shit out of luck. They don't have to give you anything in writing if they don't want to
William ***********
Time to do it right now or go to another country.
Glenn *****
How long in duration were they
Andy *******
And this at a time when the Thai government has just declared tourism a national priority, absolutely ridiculous.
Sue **********
@Andy ******
but only for Chinese tourists šŸ˜‰
Wannikea *********
@Andy ******
that guy wasn't a tourist he was trying to live here on free stamps
Michael *******
Too many taking the pee!
Bob ********
ORIGINAL POSTER
He was forced back to Singapore, he had gone there for a week trip from BKK.
Adam *********
What a random visa and immigration policy
Ricky ******
If he arrives again and does the okay cokey, that should be fine
Richard ***********
@Ricky *****
yeah
*****
be good enough
Peter **********
How many times in and out ?
Ken *********
@Peter *********
we talking Thai GFs or border?
Jordan *****
@Peter *********
could be 4 last year, but since there is no written law limiting stays on visa exemptions to X days and they did not receive a warning in the past, it’s irrelevant. The fact that they also force you to fly back half across the world is also an insult. No wonder whenever I go to Cambodia, or Vietnam I can overhear expats complaining about Thailand
Jonnie *******
@Jordan ****
those you hear complaining are likely those that can’t afford to stay in Thailand since both those countries are cheaper to live in.
Wannikea *********
@Jordan ****
there is a clearly written law you're either a tourist or you're trying to stay here a long time The law says if you're a tourist you can apply for a tourist visa or visa exempt, if you're not don't try and fool us
Jordan *****
@Wannikea ********
unless they are planning on spending more than 4 months a year, applying for DTV is a hassle and a potential waste of time and money
Brett *****
@Jordan ****
do you ever stop complaining
Jordan *****
@Wannikea ********
that’s not a law as it does not define what a tourist is and how long he can stay. A norm unless it clearly states the conditions that lead to breaking it is not a rule, but merely a vague statement
Wannikea *********
@Jordan ****
are you even able to orgasm?
William ***********
@Jordan ****
most countries send you back to the same country you departed from. Nothing unusual about that and not Thailand specific. So your implication of an insult is actually insulting.
Richard ***********
@William **********
every country does that it’s the airlines issue
Andrew ********
@Jordan ****
yes its on the immigration officer if he wishes to be here then pay for a tourist visa with unlimited entry per year. I dont undsrstand why people feel entitled to skate and abuse the system visa exempt is for tourism and visit not to be manipulated to stay here as long as you wish
Jordan *****
@Andrew *******
I ll buy a tourist visa when it will state clearly that I can spend more than 90 days a year with it. Otherwise it’s no better than the 30+30 that I ve been doing twice a year for a long time
Andrew ********
@Jordan ****
ok then what you gonna say when they stop you at the border and not allowed to come back in on exempt ? Congratulations you are the reason why they are cracking down.
Jordan *****
@Andrew *******
i never did border runs, or spent more than 4 months on visa exempt, but this does not mean they should not write a proper law helping us understand how long a stay is permitted for each status. It seems that until not too long ago you could just do border runs for ever, knew a case as recent as last year, where they did 5 border runs, but I am not so desperate as to attempt such a feat
Wannikea *********
@Jordan ****
It's called the DTV visa
Jay *****
@Andrew *******
Only smart people will do border bounce. There is no need for a proper visa at all.
Jordan *****
So no warning in the past and they were forced to fly back to Canada. What a joke of an immigration policy. Meanwhile there are companies advertising assisted border runs……
Frank **********
@Jordan ****
the reality of life in Thailand unfortunately.
Brandon ************
@Jordan ****
You're making a hell of a lot of assumptions. Where did he say his "friend" was never warned in the past? Perhaps he had plenty of warning and ignored it. Where did it say he was sent back to Canada? He just said he is in Canada now.
Jordan *****
@Brandon ***********
I made the reasonable assumption that someone who got a warning would wait for a year at least before returning
Neil ********
@Jordan ****
you made an assumption….you mean you had no F ing idea!
Albert *********
@Jordan ****
thailand there rules, its not fcking canada....
Jordan *****
no one was asking you. Got nothing interesting to say, f off
Allan ******
@Jordan ****
well, people should just get the correct visa and not try to bypass the system. I imagine they see it over and over again. People try to live there on visa exemptions šŸ•ŗ
Dennis *********
@Allan *****
when I lived in Panama the same problem came up with expats doing border hops and returning from Costa Rica because nothing said you couldn’t. Like Thailand Panama had no clear rules on amount of time.

People were following the rules as laid out. Panamanian government finally changed the laws requiring to having to be out of the country for 6 months once you had been in country for the legal limit of six months unless you were allowed to stay by a long term visa.
Jordan *****
@Allan *****
maybe they would get the ā€œcorrectā€ visa when they know how much time they can spend on the visa exempt status.

Their only fault seems to be not having spent the money to be assisted across the border and back.

Go to any of the smaller malls in Bangkok, there are at least 2 companies in each mall advertising assisted border runs
Dennis *********
@Allan *****
perhaps they should make clear rules. If someone comes in visa exempt for 60 days and does a 30 day exemption and then leaves for a week then returns for another 60 days visa exempt and again extends for 30 days. Then travels out of Thailand for 1 to 2 months and again returns for 60days visa exempt—where does it say he has been here too long other than the immigration officer? The next immigration officer two stations down would let him in!
Todd *********
@Jordan ****
we obviously don’t know there was no warning
Wannikea *********
@Jordan ****
maybe you prefer the American way, where they throw you in the detention center with 500 other people in the middle of nowhere a thousand miles away from your entry point where you're not heard of for 3 weeks
Jordan *****
@Wannikea ********
that system is just as bad, or worse

I’ve been travelling for decades, first visit to Thailand in 1999, never had any problems with them.

But I believe that immigration law has to be clearly stated and rejections should be bases only on clear reasons (no funds to maintain yourself, reasonable suspicion you are working ilegally, past criminal record and so on), not rules like ā€œI did not like the guys faceā€, or maybe today I feel like using my discretionary powers as an immigration officer
Wannikea *********
@Jordan ****
The guy wasn't a genuine tourist, case closed.
Bob ********
ORIGINAL POSTER
@Jordan ****
no warning in the past but forced to fly back to Singapore which he had gone for a week's visit, this is after doing a border run,, i know it was a bad decision
Alistair **********
@Jordan ****
so you should just be able to live in Thailand indefinitely on visa exemptions / tourist visas??
Jay *****
@Alistair *********
yes, definitely you can live in Thailand on tourist visa or border bounce. No need for a visa at all.
Braulio *********
@Jay ****
5 5 5
Jordan *****
@Jay ****
I was thinking about using a border bounce service that I found, but I travel a lot by land and air and I am afraid if I use them a few times im Thailand, then leave for like Japan, and I try to come back without being covered by these guys, I might have trouble, something I am not keen on after 24 years of visiting without being questioned once
Jordan *****
@Alistair *********
yes. unless they make a clear law that allows me to know whether I am staying to long, or not.

I knew their policies concerning visa exemptions were shit since a decade ago, that s why I never spend more than 4 months a year when I don t have a visa, but I am not suprised people try border runs.

I actually don’t care much when they turn away people on border runs, as they can explore the adjacent countries, but being turned away at the airport and losing thousands of dollars is a disproportionate punishment, especially when paid border runs are still taking place with impunity
Richard ***********
@Jordan ****
that’s why fly to Vietnam or phillipines then hop in to Thailand you’d only be sent back to there if it happens
Bob **********
@Jordan ****
your going to see a lot of that now especially with the DTV
Todd *********
@Bob *********
no we aren’t
Bob **********
@Todd ********
it was on the news today
Steven *********
I don't understand why people don't just apply and get the correct visa.. save all the crap and drama.
Todd *********
@Steven ********
1. You don’t need to bother. 2. For Many people under 50, there is no obvious solution to their visa needs. So border bounces exist and thrive. The DTV solves the problems for many, but not all
Philip *******
@Steven ********
exactly get the correct visa and no issues, bending the rules to break point and now with DATC it's easier to be denied and then whine and winge of social media.
Steven *********
@Bob *********
what was ? Have you got the link?
Bob **********
@Steven ********
103Fm there pulling people aside and checking there police records and everything else Thailand is tired of all the scams going on
Graham ******
He can get a Visa but that doesn't guarantee entry especially if he goes for a Tourist Visa
William ******
@Graham *****
I think he’d need a re-entry permit, which is not a Visa.

All can be very complex very easy to misunderstand & find oneself in difficulties.
Chris *******
He can't.

If he was denied entry that is not a ban, so in theory if he gets the proper visa he should be allowed to enter.

Unless there is more to the story that complicates it.
Richard ***********
@Chris ******
next time queue up again with another officer and put 5000 in the passport
Nev ********
@Richard **********
unless you get the wrong agent, then you will definitely be banned.
BodyMind **************
@Richard **********
this humor or reality- or both? Actually curious about things on the ground
Richard ***********
BodyMind **************
@Richard **********
ok- you won’t end up in serious trouble for that then…
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