What issues could my friend face due to a 13-day overstay in Thailand?

Jan 22, 2020
5 years ago
Willi ********
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Can someone please advise : I have a friend with a now 13 day overstay , he has a valid work permit , owns a house in Thailand and lives with his foreign wife and child in Phuket . He was planning to drive his car down to the Hat Yai crossing on the way to Penang and renew his visa there . What sort of problems should he expect with regards to the 13 day overstay...? Thanks .
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The friend faces significant risks due to a 13-day overstay in Thailand. If his passport is checked, he could be detained and deported. It's crucial to clarify his visa status as a valid work permit does not negate the overstay. If caught, he might face a fine of 500 baht per day, with potential blacklisting if not handled carefully. The safest option suggested is flying out of Thailand—paying the overstay fine at the airport to minimize risks.
Tod *********
Good luck to the O/P's friend.

I think they can figure out what to do
James ********
David **********
His work permit has nothing to do with immigration, that's the ministry of employment,

His extensions is his main concern,

500 Bhat a day fine for overstay,

There is also no safe and guaranteed way to avoid a fine,

It's up to immigration at any border as to whether he gets back in or not.
Robert *******
Penang is not the place to go as they are the only Thai Consulate that does not issue a new visa to people with overstay stamps.
Tod *********
As far as I know that "no visa for people with overstay stamps" in Penang only applies to people getting tourist visas there.

I have read no reports where people were denied other visa types because of an overstay stamp
Robert *******
Foreign wife and child. What kind of visa or Extension of Stay are they using, when they use an visa or Extension of Stay based on a foreigner working in Thailand, piggyback on his visa, their extensions of stay also became invalid and are in overstay.
Tod *********
First off a valid "work permit" doesn't let him STAY in thailand, it allows him to work IF he has the correct visa.

Secondly you don't renew a visa by going to the border OR going to a thai consulate.

How about stating what type of visa he's on now, and what type of visa he's thinking of getting in Penang?

As people pointed out, it's NOT the overstay that is inherently dangerous it's getting caught out on something else inside thailand while on overstay that runs you off the rails.

The way the overstay rules are written you don't get blacklisted for overstay when turning yourself in (which is what you do at the border or the airport) until you have an overstay OVER 90 days

BUT

It also states that if you're caught inside thailand on an overstay of even ONE single day you can be blacklisted for 5 years.

Also as people wisely pointed out FLYING out of the country is the least risky thing. Have him show up at the airport ready to pay the 6500 baht overstay fine, get the overstay stamp in his passport and fly to a nearby country to go to a thai consulate to get a visa.
Jw ********
That's 500bt for every day and better sort it out quick before it goes to a fine with a 5 year ban.
Carl ***********
Taken from internet
Lloyd ********
unless caught, and then any overstay will result in deportation and blacklisting
Willi ********
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@Carl **********
Yes , ok...thanks .
Willi ********
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What he is most concerned about is being Blacklisted...who can advise about this...? Can you still just pay the daily fine and then return with no problems...? What is the overstay days maximum before being blacklisted ...? Thanks .
Lloyd ********
So if working he is doing so illegally
Lloyd ********
He does not have a valid work permit, because he has no permission to stay.
Lloyd ********
and they need a valid permission of stay, so being on overstay invalidates the work permit too - how can you work legally with no legal permission of stay.
Reiner *********
Instead caught but the police in his care ,before the border ...he should fly from phuket to had yai.....then go by trains to Penang ...pay the overstay at the border...
Gregor **********
he will have to pay the overstay at Phuket airport, if he follows your advice. Despite this being his fastest way out, regarding he already is in Phuket
Ben **********
If his passport is checked before reaching the border it's a major problem: detention and deportation.
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