What is the best way to prove a permanent income stream for a Thai Non-O visa based on marriage?

Mar 22, 2024
8 months ago
Keith *********
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Hello everyone,

I'm Australian married to my Thai wife for 20 years. We are moving to Thailand next month. Our house is in her name and we will live there.

I've received an Australian pension for the past 5 years.

I'm planning to enter Thailand visa exempt for 30 days then extend for 60 days and in the meantime organise and apply for a non-o visa based on marriage.

I understand that I need to prove that I have an income of at least 40,000TB/month to be eligible for a Thai marriage visa. My question is : what is the best way to prove that I have a permanent income stream?

I'm assuming that there are fellow Aussies who have trodden this path recently and can pass on up to date information.

Thanks 🙏 in advance.
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An Australian expat, married to a Thai citizen, is moving to Thailand and plans to start with a visa-exempt entry followed by a 30-day extension and applying for a Non-O visa based on marriage. He seeks advice on how to prove a permanent income of至少40,000 TB/month required for the Non-O visa. Comments suggest options like obtaining an income verification letter from the Australian embassy, maintaining a balance (400,000 to 800,000 baht) in a Thai bank account, or providing bank statements of monthly income deposits as proof. It’s noted that the requirements can vary, and securing documentation before arriving is beneficial.
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Alfred ***********
Well mostly for visa they require 800k baht for non o not sure about thai marriage. But it should be easy to get a letter from your embassy here proving your income. You fill in a few forms send you Financials and they'll provide you with a letter for immigration. Hope that. As I said I'm single so non sure on thai marriage visa.
Nic ***********
I’m just looking at the same
John *******
Enter on a e visa for 60 days (apply to Thai embassy in aus) then extend for 30 days…..I believe the extension is only 30 days not 60
Kunrat *****************
@John ******
Possible to get 60 days for Visit Thai Family/ Thai Family Extension.
Keith *********
ORIGINAL POSTER
Thanks Alex.🙏
Alex ********
Easy! Get a Centrelink Payment statement online if you have my.gov account. It takes 1 minute. If you don't have my gov account search the internet and sign up. As easy as 1,2,3. Good luck!
Judy **********
65k per month or 800k in a Thai bank account. These are the rules. Not sure about being married to a Thai though. Probably different rules.
Peter *********
@Judy *********
only 400k in a thai bank
Lee ***********
The best route is to deposit
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0baht in your bank account and forget about it.
James ***********
May be the requirements are different for the visa you want, but for the LTR visa, here are things that were useful to prove retirement income:

(1) copies of tax returns (2 most recent years) showing your pension income or (2) copies of an official tax forms (2 most recent years) reported to you and the government indicating your pension income (2 most recent years). I also had a letter from my former employer stating the amount of my pension benefit. The letter was not necessary and was NOT sufficient without other documentation. If the tax documents were not available yet they accepted 12 months of bank statements showing the monthly deposits. Regarding the bank statements, I also provided a cover letter with a summary spreadsheet giving the date of each deposit, the amount deposited and the name of the payor so they could easily match up that information with the bank statements. The letter detailed any discrepancies between the nominal benefit amount and the actual deposit for routine things like tax withholding.
Ari **********
Where you have your income ? I had my one year long term visa just showing my bank and pension statement in my country. Together those was enough. Maybe your situation is different.
Keith *********
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@Ari *********
I'm an Australian pensioner. I'll make sure that I get both a bank and pension statement.
Chris *******
@Keith ********
that will be of no use.

Only embassy income certificate is accepted.
Ari **********
@Keith ********
, your best option is contact thai embassy in your country

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Kool *******
The only way you can do it the first year is with bt 400,000+ in your bank account in your name only, then during that year have at least bt40,000 deposited into your Thai bank account for the next 12 months from an overseas source to use for your second year extension That is the only option you have.
Keith *********
ORIGINAL POSTER
Thanks Kool. You are a breeze of fresh air! 🤗
Keith *********
ORIGINAL POSTER
@Kool ******
OK. I can do that if it's the only way.
Kool *******
@Keith ********
the hardest part is actually getting the Thai bank account in your name only, not a joint account. The rest is just getting the correct documents. Go to immigration with your wife when you get here, and get the list of documents, and pictures required. They will also tell your wife what isn't on the list. Bangkok Bank, Kasikorn, or SCB, are the best, as the others have a transfer limit of bt50,000 on a single transfer, and that can create problems. After the first time the next year's are very easy as everything is the same except new bank letters, and pictures unless you move, so keep copies of everything to use in following years.
Kool *******
I might add that unlike the financial requirements of a retirement visa extension, after you get your yearly extension stamp you can do anything you want with the bt400,000. It does not have to stay in your account. It just has to be there at least 2 months before you apply. No other restrictions on it, and it doesn't matter where it comes from.
Grant *******
do a non O based on retirement in Australia first and you will need 400 or 800 k in the bank for the first extension then the income in a Thai bank every month for at least 12 months. Australian embassy does not do proff of income and has not for many years now
John ********
I think it's 65k
Gregory *******
Grant *******
@John *******
65k is for retirement not marriage. 40k for marriage. but retirement extension is much easier to get
John ********
Graham ******
Why not get your Non-O Visa in Australia before travelling?
Keith *********
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@Graham *****
Out Thai marriage certificate is in our house in Thailand. I can't access it until I'm there.
Par ******
@Keith ********
unless you already have a thai bank acct, you may need some sort of visa (& other proofs) to open a new bank acct in your name in Thailand
Aake **********
@Keith ********
marry in your homecountry also
John *****
You can only extend 30 days, your airline might require you have a means of exit within 30 days i.e exit flight, bank statements and regular transfers to your Thai account of over 40k. Probably easier to apply for a 90 day non-o in Australia then extend once in Thai . It'll make opening a Thai bank easy and then getting your money transfers in etc as proof.
Chris *******
@John ****
he can extend 1 time 30 days tourist and then can extend 60 days visit Thai family extension.
Gregory *******
@John ****
I think so I'm doing that next year
Brandon ************
Many offices will require you to take the 30 day tourist extension before the 60 day Thai family extension.

You need to find out if the Australian embassy in Thailand does income verification. Embassy certified income is the ONLY income you can use for your visa application and first 1-year extension. If your embassy doesn't do income verification then you have to do 400,000 in your Thai bank account.
Keith *********
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@Brandon ***********
From my understanding, the Australian Embassy don't do income verification any more. This my question, how to prove my income to the satisfaction of Thai Immigration Department?
Darryle *******
@Keith ********
use an agent
Nigel ********
@Darryle ******
and once you use them your always have to.Do it yourself legally after the first time it's easy to renew
Stephen *******
@Keith ********
You need a 12 month history of depositing 40k each and every month into a Thai bank account from overseas. That's why you can't do it first year.
Brandon ************
@Stephen ******
That's not the reason. Even if you have that, almost every immigration will not accept it. The ONLY way to get the initial non-O visa and first 1-year extension is with embassy certified income, or banked money. They will not accept monthly transfers for either of these.
Brandon ************
@Keith ********
you can't. You can't use income. The ONLY option you have is 400,000 in a Thai bank account in your name only.
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