So I was told you are only a tax resident in Thailand if you stay more than 180 days and have a Thai Bank account
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In Thailand, an individual is considered a tax resident if they stay for more than 180 days in a calendar year. While some discussions suggest that having a Thai bank account is relevant to tax residency, many experts clarify that it is not a determining factor. The key aspect is the time spent in Thailand, not the banking arrangements. Topics around Double Tax Agreements (DTA) may affect tax obligations regarding income brought into Thailand, but residency itself is defined solely by time spent in the country. The conversation also highlights confusion regarding tax registration and reporting, with varying opinions on whether a Tax Identification Number (TIN) is necessary without a Thai bank account.
Imagine being treated like a second class citizen and still paying your money like an actual citizen....thats on you if you think living there is so great. either pay 10-20k in local account or enjoy your 2nd class border runs. lol
Bob ********
how will they even know your income when your bank is out of country?
Here is the criteria: No more 200 deposit transactions per year or less than 2 million baht in total deposit transaction each year, the Thai bank will not report to the dept.
the bank account is not relevant but it may be a factor because thatâs where they will start monitoring how much money you have brought in from OS if you transfer solely into a Thai bank account. The banks will be required to report to the Revenue Department accounts owned by foreigners that bring in at least X amount per year. I would think that services like Western Union will at some point in the future will have reporting requirements. I attended a seminar presented by tax agents with a Revenue Department officer there. This is what they said. They added that with the implementation of AI tracking will become easier
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Hmmm I wonder if they Thai tax rep who told me this was wrong or not. So basically even if you have an OS account you still need to file?
you may be correct but the info I was given was donât until requested. They added that whole confusion around this issue seems to be that the Revenue Service is not providing clarity which is a mystery in itself. What I do know is if you are married to a Thai then the east solution is to transfer your funds from OS into an account your wife has. You are allowed to gift up to 2 million baht per year tax free to your spouse. Just do it in monthly instalments because she might run off with a lump sum đ
gifting to your spouse up to 20 million baht, not 2 million, is tax free with sums above attracting a 5% tax rate. All info is freely available on the Revenue website.
If you live in Thailand more than 180 days in a calendar year you are considered a Thai tax resident. End of story
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Ally ************
I'd suggest that having a Thai bank account is very relevant.. since you can only be taxed (or assessed for tax) on the income you bring into Thailand.. and the only way that can be assessed is via your bank deposits.. meaning if you self declare your income on a tax return they will ask to see your bank statements to verify it.. your overseas bank account is irrelevant.. so if you don't have a Thai bank account you will never pay tax.. unless you volunteer to do so.. however the reality is that you can't stay here on a long term visa (eg. married or retirement visa) without having a Thai bank account.. and these are the majority of people that will be caught by the 180 day ruling.. very few people will live in Thailand for 6 months without a bone-fide visa.. so it's nonsensical to suggest a Thai bank account is not going to be part of the tax equation!
Dan *******
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Jan ***************
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Ingvar *******
I have asked two different tax office and get totally different answers, and in my hometown they refuse to give me a TIN number because my home country have a dual tax agreement with Thailand since 1988.
my home country Denmark has a dual tax agreement with Thailand and I got a Thai TIN number which was actually requested by the insurrance company in Denmark that pay out my private pension. So the reason they gave you are contrary to my experience. But this is typical here : different answers different rules for the same situation
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So I actually went to speak with a Thai tax advisor. He told me that you are a Thai Tax Resident if you stay 180 days or more and also have a Thai Bank Account. Which means that is money you bring into Thailand. He said Thailand doesnât have access to your offshore bank accounts because you donât have a Thai tax id. To set up a bank account in Thailand you would need that. He said as of right now they canât tax you without that. I am just telling you what he told me. A lot of you just want to attack people on the internet it seems. Donât shoot at the messenger for sharing relevant information
Kim *********
Thai bank account is totally irrelevant
Kennys ********
Yes ageee
Erik *******
Until someone actually gets taxed by the Thai government no one knows what is happening. I would consult a Thai tax specialist/lawyer
Jim ********
Golden Rule: Never take for granted what you are "told"
You are a tax resident of any country you spend more than ½ the year in... But that doesn't really mean anything other than you are supposed to file your primary taxes in your country of residence and possibly (like in case of USA) file taxes in your home country claiming any tax paid in your tax residence country as a tax credit on your home country taxes.
Gregory ********
It seems most expert fbookers dont even know what the allowances are: A. PERSONAL ALLOWANCE
(Thai Baht)
Taxpayer 60,000
Spouse (if spouse has no income) 60,000
Legitimate child of the taxpayer or the spouse (without limit),
Additional allowance for legitimate child of the taxpayer or the spouse from the second child onwards who was born in or after 2018 Each 30,000
Taxpayer's adopted child (maximum 3),
(If there are legitimate and adopted children together, a maximum of only 3 children is allowed) Each 30,000
Parental care Each 30,000
Care of disabled or incapacitated family members Each 60,000
Care of a disabled or incapacitated person other than a family member Each 60,000
In addition, a Thai Tax Resident who is over 65 years of age or who is disabled is entitled to personal income tax exemption on the net income up to Baht 190,000 per tax year.
B. INSURANCE ALLOWANCE
(Thai Baht)
â Total not Exceed 100,000 Thai Baht
â Life insurance and savings insurance Not exceed 100,000
â A health insurance Not exceed 25,000
Health insurance of taxpayerâs parent
(Or the parents of the spouse of the taxpayer) Not exceed 15,000
Social Security Contributions Not exceed 9,000
C. INVESTMENT FUNDS ALLOWANCE
(Thai Baht)
Total not Exceed 500,000 Thai Baht
Retirement Mutual Fund (RMF) 30% of income, not exceed
500,000
Super Savings Fund (SSF) 30% of income, not exceed
200,000
National Savings Fund Not exceed 30,000
Provident Fund (PVD) / Formal School Promotion Fund 15% of income, not exceed
500,000
Qualified pension life insurance 15% of income, not exceed
why is it pointlessâsomeone asked gor the allowancesâread the posts and stop trolling you pointless man
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See all these non qualified tax specialists giving advise againâif you want to submit find a qualified accountantânot a facebook googlerđđđđ
You're a ThaĂŻ tax resident if you stay in ThaĂŻland more than 180 days during the year, not consecutly, total. Bank account has no bearing whatsoever on your residency. Without Ă bank account , you could fly under the radar more easily but you also forgo the conveniency of having Ă ThaĂŻ bank account. And if you get on their radar, they'll get you anyway. Remember, Al Capone was not cought by the FBI, he was cought by the IRS
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James ******
If you read these comments, one thing you will be sure of, none of them haven't got a clue what they are commenting on.
correctâthey donât understandâeach person might be from a different country so the DTA are different in each countryâhaving a huge influence on tax in thailandâthey should stop being professional googlers and consult a professional tax consultantđđđ
Okay so should I listen to you or a Thai Tax professional who said you are a tax resident when you have a TIN which you would then use to open a Thai bank account. Who is more the official, You "Khun Josh" or him? Lets just get that out in the open now since you are the expert here.
And you will never be asked to pay tax by the Revenue Department as tax filing is a self declaration. A knock on the door for a tax audit is a separate matter.
Same same but on a o marriage visa...Should they want me to pay any tax will tell wife to sell her land to a Vietnamese or Burmese National....could be a laught..ting song..
they start a lot of starting things in Thailand but many never happened like banning weed nothing happened just some rules that were already in place enforced
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Todd *********
you were told incorrectly. Whether or not you have a Thai bank account doesn't matter. 180 days is critical
Marianne ********
You are a Tax Resident when you stay longer than 180 days in a calendar year.
If you need actually pay tax depends on a few more variables.
Consult a tax specialist.
Ian *****
Most countries , if you stay over 180 days you risk being tax resident as it becomes your main residence. The bank account is irrelevant
but DTV is not considered as resident visa on paper and we can't even open an account. Moreover i believe we don't get Tin number to prove that we are tax resident as Facta details will always ask for Tin number if u r tax resident in any country
false, holding a DTV is irrelevant to your tax residency status.
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Arnold **********
If you have a business in Thailand and you make a good profit you have to pay taxes and it doesnât matter if you stay 180 days or not you still have to pay the taxes,the same in most countries
according to the Thai tax professional I spoke to itâs 180 days but itâs money you âbring into Thailandâ and the way you would do that is with a Thai bank accounts. If you have a foreign bank itâs just like how someone would have an âoffshore bank accountâ as a tax haven. This is what he told me
there are lots of ways of bringing money into Thailand. Money (income) brought in via an ATM, in your pocket, via a 3rd party etc all counts as money brought in. Not just brought in via banks. Money that remains in a foreign bank is not subject to Thai tax.
but DTV is not considered as resident visa on paper and we can't even open an account. Moreover i believe we don't get Tin number to prove that we are tax resident as Facta details will always ask for Tin number if u r tax resident in any country
so my monthly salary is good enough to meet this threshold. But i take salary in my Singapore home country account. So in my case i can still get Tin or i need to open account in Thai bank first and show salary transactions?
it is irrelevant whether you have a Thai bank account or not. You apply for a TIN if you bring into Thailand more than 60k baht of assessable income in a year where you are a Thai tax resident. End of story
the Thai tax is on money remitted into Thailand. That means cash brought in, ATM withdrawals in Thailand, credit card purchases at stores in Thailand. Your salary into your Singaporean bank is not taxable unless you bring it in.
assuming your home country has a dual tax agreement with Thailand then you should be able to claim a credit against Thai tax for any tax already paid in your home country on the income you bring in to Thailand
If you are a USA citizen with USA income the dual tax agreement will not mean that you do not owe Thai taxes. The tax brackets are wider and lower in the states and capital gains, qualified dividends tax rates are less and municipal bond dividends are tax exempt in the states but not in Thailand.
ok thanks for enlightening me. Can u let me know the process how can i get Tin number for me its been 3 months here and i will stay for more than 180 days in Thailand. So in my case can i apply TIN now or i need to wait for 180+ days and then only i can process TIN?
you say 3 months rightâso thats the 2025 tax yearâyou need register before 31 December 2025 and submit by March 2026âif you are liable for tax in Thailand
go to a tax revenue office สำŕ¸ŕ¸ąŕ¸ŕ¸ŕ¸˛ŕ¸ŕ¸Şŕ¸Łŕ¸Łŕ¸ŕ¸˛ŕ¸ŕ¸Ł near you with your passport to get TIN simple process it's a card that have 13digits with your particulars and address on it
in my case i travel to my home country and bring small usd to spend in Thailand for 6 months and i also use my home country card. So in my case on what income i will pay taxes. As technically my salary goes into home country account. And I am planning to tell my home country bank account that i am tax resident in Thailand and i shouldn't be tax in my home country.
So can u guide me in my case since i don't have income in Thailand, technically i should file zero tax and can still get Tin? Is it feasible. Pls enlighten me đ
it doesn't matter how you bring income into Thailand, just bringing it in is enough. If you bring it in in your pocket, if you use a foreign card to withdraw money from an ATM, if you transfer it to a friend for your benefit, all counts as remitting to Thailand. The simple point is if you remit assessable income to Thailand in a year in which you are a Thai tax resident then you are liable for Thai tax on that income.
ok to obtain a TIN you must have assessable income above minimum thresholds. You can get a TIN without being tax resident if you have domestic income, otherwise you will first have to become tax resident. Both scenarios require assessable income above minimum thresholds.
they started for the financial year of 2024 for those who stays more than 180days in thailand..... income brought into thailand is taxable unless your country have a double tax exemption with thailand
You automatically become Thai tax resident after 180 days residence in Thailand in a tax year. Having a bank account is irrelevant. Whatâs your point?
I encourage everyone to educate themselves as the only tax adviser looking after your interests is yourself. Please go read the information published on the Revenue Department website. Thai tax law is not that complicated. You donât have to be a tax lawyer to read and understand tax law. I am not a Thai lawyer but I know itâs illegal to ride a motorcycle without a helmet....simply educate yourself.
so what you are saying is he is wrong. Having a Thai Tax ID and setting up a Thai Bank Account isnt how you become a Thai tax resident here in 2025? So how would they know how much you had in a UK bank account, if its off shore?
that is correct, he is wrong. Tax residency is independent from obtaining a TIN and a Thai bank account. They can certainly be done together but they are not dependent on one another. If you had actually read the sections of the Revenue Code I previously referred you to you would already have your answers.
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The first part is correct. 1 condition = 180 days in the tax year.
Keith ************
It's not controversial that 180 days in Thailand in a calendar year makes you a tax resident. It's not scare mongering to state that fact. Anyone who doesn't believe it can simply Google it and come up with dozens of references. This one is from Siam Legal.
"Tax Resident: Anyone who stays in Thailand for more than 180 days cumulative (not consecutive), regardless of nationality or residence status in Thailand."
A double tax agreement between two countries lays out what is taxable and what is not. It's similar to a contract and it varies depending on your country. It doesn't usually automatically exempt you from paying taxes.
From Wikipedia
"A tax treaty, also called double tax agreement or double tax avoidance agreement, is an agreement between two countries to avoid or mitigate double taxation. Such treaties may cover a range of taxes including income taxes, inheritance taxes, value added taxes, or other taxes."
Usually dtas mean that certain types of income aren't taxable, and/or you might be able to deduct some or all of the taxes paid in one county, against the tax levied in another.
Again, this is not scare mongering. These agreements are readily available on the internet to read for yourself.
Whether or not the Thai government will aggressively enforce taxes or not remains to be seen. There are deductions available as well. Many people won't owe a thing.
But anybody who says that facts are scare mongering, but doesn't respond with facts of their own, is not worth listening to.
you're a tax resident after 180 days in a calendar year, whether or not your country has a DTA. What you pay or don't pay in Thai taxes is determined by the specifics of the DTA.
you will soon as all banks are checking their accounts and account holders are required to declare foreign banks and income - it will of course take time.
Tell the THai tax office that. How much tx have you paid in Thailand? âTaxable incomeâ includes salaries, business income, rental income, pensions, and now foreign income brought into Thailand.
If you stay in Thailand for more than 180 days in a year, you are considered a tax resident and must report all income earned in Thailand and any foreign income brought into the country. Last year, the Thai Revenue Department announced new tax rules for both local and international income. If youâre a foreigner earning income in Thailand, these changes will affect you, so itâs important to understand the rules and their impact to avoid penalties, overpaying taxes, or legal consequences. Any income earned abroad after 2023 and transferred into Thailand will be taxed, no matter when it is brought in.
false. Just because you are tax resident does not mean you have to report income it just means you come under Thai tax jurisdiction. Reporting income is a completely separate matter for which you have to qualify. I agree with you that itâs important to understand the rules which is why I suggest you read sections 40, 41 and 56 of the Thai Revenue Code to understand what exactly are the reporting requirements and conditions.
I have had 2 Thai bank accounts for 20 years +. Any amount of interest is already taxed automatically. I don't stay longer than 180 days a year in Thailand so I don't need to declare anything from overseas.
I have more accounts than you - I lived in THailand up to Covid and now don't spend more than 180 days - used used to pay tax every year - You file your own form and they then tell you how much tax you need to pay or get rebated.... - however recently I have been asked to give details and mobile phone numbers. - So you may not need to pay tax but you may have to prove that to the bank - there is currently a clampdown on such things.
What details exactly? Phone numbers is a known thing as they're cracking down on mule accounts, but other details like foreign accounts?? that does not sound right.
I have five successful franchises in the US and rental properties. This is what I found out. Iâm not paying tax in Thailand. Iâm enjoying life here. I wouldnât do business here and thatâs different if you are. We are not talking about that.
Having a Thai bank account is totally irrelevant to Thai tax liabilities.
1) re the OP question: As soon as you have been 180 days within one calendar year in Thailand you become tax resident. Nothing more, nothing less.
2) re bank account and taxes: You (can) become tax liable, among other, when you bring foreign *income* into Thailand. Doesnât matter how you bring it in. Can bring it in by bank transfer from a foreign account or can bring it in by carrying it on a mule when crossing the border. Having a (Thai) bank account is relevant to your tax liability.
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Having the account is relevant, not because it changes your status, but because it's easier for tracing, so the Government can know easier if you brought money or not. True that even money brought on a mule would need to pay taxes (under some circumstances), but how would even they know you brought it? If transferred to a bank account on your name, then it's easier to track, and ask taxes.
Re bringing in money on a mule: âThey wouldnât know when you commit customs fraud and tax fraud.â Are you advocating breaking the law?
Since your tax liability is based on self-assessment, whether or not âtheyâ can see it is irrelevant, just like having a Thai bank account is completely irrelevant, unless you intend to break the law.
or just go to provincial administrative organization and file tax return and don't fatten up the accountant out of thin air. Rd will advise on the spotđ
go to a tax revenue office สำŕ¸ŕ¸ąŕ¸ŕ¸ŕ¸˛ŕ¸ŕ¸Şŕ¸Łŕ¸Łŕ¸ŕ¸˛ŕ¸ŕ¸Ł near you with your passport and get yourself a tax ID after which they will check whether your home country have agreements on (double tax) exempt as my income have already been tax hence there's no tax for me here but I still keep my tax ID for future use
Thereâs way more details on what tax you might be liable for. This is why I donât advise on tax issues. The OP needs an accountant or tax specialist to advise.
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