Well today was my first day possible to go back to immigration to process my 12 Month Extension of Stay based on my Non-O Retirement Visa. I had everything the Immigration Officer wanted and received my extension without having to get anything additional. Also processed my reentry permit while here since I already have trips lined up.
I know people on here get βsnottyβ when expats say 12 month visa instead of 12 month extension of stay, but the Immigration Officer told me I now had a 12 Month Visaπ€£ππ€£ππ€£π
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The user successfully processed a 12 Month Extension of Stay for their Non-O Retirement Visa at the immigration office without additional requirements. They also obtained a re-entry permit on the same day due to upcoming trips. The discussion includes clarifications on the terminology used regarding visas and extensions, alluding to the common misunderstandings among expats about whether they possess a visa or a temporary permission to stay. Further comments delve into the necessary paperwork, procedures for re-entry, and the distinction between visa and extension terminology.
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Same here, 90 day reporting 21st March. BTW! I did it my way! No agent, no additional cost.
Peter *********
Which immigration office ?
Robert ********
Good job and well done. You had all your ducks in a row and attention to details is what it takes!
SunnyChe*********
So this has nothing to do with having a DTV? π
Graham ******
SunnyChestnut4369 why should it?
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Charolette ***********
Congrats
Gregory *********
What the pedants don't notice is that on your 90 day report receipt notification it says:" please check expiry date of visa in your passport" uses the word visa in thai also.
and in the upper left corner of the 90-days report slip it says "this is not an extension of stay" πππ . . fact is, the report slip is neither an extension nor a visa
just another example of improper wording used by Immigration. And what does this stamp say, it is the one year extension, is there ANY notion of it being a visa? π
my entry on a 90-days Non-Imm-O Retirement Visa was 17 years and three passports ago ππ in these days of old the visa still was a sticker in the passport, and when I entered, I received a stay permit for 90 days and the visa sticker got a BIG red stamp across it that said USED π€ . . which clearly indicated that this visa was void from then on
the visa validity expiry is a different thing than the expiry of the stay permit you get stamped on this visa. Two different dates. You should not confuse it
βNothing to do with being a nerd wanting correct terminology.
Yeah the barstool says βwe are on a retirement visaβ but that does not mean the visa is extended - a visa is an entry permission and is used or void when you entered, and replaced with a permission to stay.
Just a side note: he TM7 is called extension of stay - not extension of visa.
I would feel happy to get corrected if I used a word wrong.
But well, some like to learn and some - the likes of YOU - close their ears and refuse to learnβ
everybody who has a one-year extension based on retirement, who exits Thailand and re-enters using a re-entry permit, will get stamped "Non-RE" into the visaclass. RE not meaning retirement but RE-entry permit
it says Non-RE in the right upper corner under "visaclass" - "RE" because I used a re-entry permit for my one-year extended stay permit when I entered and because my 1-year stay permit is based on a Non-Imm visaclass that has expired 17 years ago ππππππππ
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Joni****
So if you have extension off stay, and you want to go out the country before your next 90 days you need to get a re/entry permit is that correct or do you just leave and they stamp when you re/enter
Nongnuch ********
Joni1828 he has to make sure the re-entry permit was bought for the new one-year extension, and not for the still valid 90-days stay permit, by looking at the re-entry permit stamp. It should be valid until the same date as his one-year extended stay permit
The single entry 90-days Non-O visa expires or becomes invalid, when you enter Thailand on it.
You get a stay permit of 90 days stamped into your passport.
And before this stay permit expires, you apply for the one-year extension of the stay permit based on the same reason the visa was originally issued for
A visa cannot get extended, a visa only allows entry into a country and cannot get extended after it has been used for an entry
I got a visa stamp in my passport. That gives the visa class on it and when i was permitted to stay to. And i extended my stay and the visa. The visa is not cancelled until i cease the single entry.
It is sheer impossible that you got a visa stamped into your passport . . . . visas are not stamped into a passport any more. E-Visas issued by Thai embassies are a piece of printed paper you need to show when you enter. The entry stamp says "admitted until" which is an "admission to stay", not a visa. The visaclass you used gets entered into the upper red corner.
he doesn't have a visa extension. You cannot extend a visa, this is technically not possible. . . . He's got an extension of the stay permit for one year. He said he bought ("processed") a re-entry permit for this one-year extension. So everthing is cool - he can leave before the extension starts, and after it has started, he can use the re-entry permit on his next entry into Thailand, if he re-enters within the one-year period of his extended stay permit.
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ΰΈΰΈΰΈ ********
Yes they also get "snotty" if you say you have an international driving licence instead of permit π€£π€£π€£
Jason ******
Did they do the extension and stamp in passport on the same day you went up thankyou
Yes -- everything was done the same day. After the initial IO went through everything she told me to have a seat out front again and then 10-15 minutes later a different IO called my name and had me sign one more document and returned my passport and my bankbook. Longest part was waiting to sit down with the first IO as I got there around 10:45 and was done around 2:15.
So I guess this is a really big deal to someone πππ
Matthew *********
Knowone in a bar ever says I am on extension of stay. Every person I have met says retirement and we all understand. People would get their teeth knock out by the nerds on here that want to go around correcting people
nothing to do with being a nerd wanting correct terminology. Yeah we are on retirement but that does not mean the visa is extended - a visa is an entry permission and is used when entered and replaced with a a permission to stay. Tm7 is called extension of stay - not extension of visa. I would be happy to be corrected if I used a word wrong. But some like to learn and some close their ears and refuse to learn.
but yet you took the time to dismiss expats for correctly stating that it is an extension of stay that you have. BE GRATEFUL you got it without a hitch . You have trips lined up..surely you also got a MULTI RE-Entry permit and not just a single entry. Good luck
no I said some expats get βsnottyβ when other expats state they have a 12 month visa instead β some more so though we all know what was meant. My point was the IO told me I had a 12 month visa β no I wasnβt going to correct herβ¦.I smiled politely and said thank you while taking my passport
Yes I did buy a multi re-entry permit because I know Iβm doing at least two or three trips out of Thailand.
"the Immigration Officer told me I now had a 12 Month Visa" . . . it does just show the poor command of English. For them, a visa is the same thing as a stay permit. it is technically wrong. SOME Immigrations have corrected their speech. Buriram Immigration is not "extending your visa" any more. Applaus for the Buriram Immigration for their use of correct wording π cheers! π€
Ian *********
What paperwork was required, may I ask!
Dennis *********
ORIGINAL POSTER
Ian Mackown Here are the documents I provided to Immigration Officer with my apprilcation:
Good, but you should have asked why you could not leave and re-enter without purchasing a re-entry permit, since you still had a valid visa and not only a temporary permission to stay.
A single-entry Non-Immigrant visa is indeed used up once you enter Thailand. If you leave Thailand after that entry, the visa cannot be reused. However, once you obtain an extension of stay, you are no longer staying on the visa itself but on a temporary permission to stay based on the stay the Non O gave you. The point here is simply that it was the IO who was mixing up the terminology.
I understand what you meant . . . . . . I just hope he checked the expiry date of the re-entry permit to make sure it wasn't bought for the still existing 90-days stay permit but for the duration of the newly issued one-year extension of stay
my rentry permit is valid through Jan 2027 β of course I checked both the dates for extension and rentry as it would be too easy to mixup years if someone gets distracted.
Yes, because the underlying visa is already used, and what you hold at that point is only a temporary permission to stay, which does not survive departure unless a re-entry permit is obtained. That is precisely why the re-entry permit is required, -itβs not a visa anymore.
he must have entered around October 10-13, because he said he opened a Kasikorn account by October 14. This would mean that if he entered on October 12, the 90-days report due date would be January 11. By December 29, he would have had already spent 77 days in Thailand. So, since you can do your first 90 days report up from 15 days before due date, Immigration honored his visit as a valid 90-days report (due date being 13 days away). Or maybe he entered between October 5 and 10, then the due date would be even nearer to December 29
I entered Thailand Oct 11 and didnβt get my bank account opened until 13 days later waiting on my Certificate of Residence which took 8 days. My entry visa expired 8 Jan.
ah, so my guess was very close. Today, your 90-days report due date was less than 15 days away, actually only 10 days away, that's why they let you report and issued the slip