What are the best practices for traveling with a dog to Thailand, especially regarding cabin vs. cargo hold options?

Aug 5, 2023
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Linz ************
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Hello all

Taking our dog with us to Thailand (for our retirement)

We are looking at Lufthansa as they allow dogs in the cabin (in suitable pet carriers and subject to size and weight restrictions) alternatively the pet can go into the aircraft hold

The emotional side of me wants her to be with us, she is very timid and very close to me so will take comfort from hearing my voice and being able to see me

The other side of me is thinking, in the cabin, she will be cooped up in a carrier for 12 hours, similarly to us wearing a straitjacket and perhaps she would be more comfortable in the hold and some reports suggest being in the hold can be less stressful

Anyone have any opinions or experience on which option is the best and no. leaving her behind is absolutely not an option
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Many expats share their experiences about traveling with dogs to Thailand, debating whether it's better for dogs to be in the cabin or in the cargo hold during flights. Most agree that while being in the cabin allows for comfort and reassurance, the cargo hold can be less stressful for some dogs, provided they are in a climate-controlled area. Importantly, proper paperwork, vaccinations, and tick prevention treatment are vital for a smooth transition. Additionally, many recommend using suitable pet carriers and airline services like Lufthansa, known for their good handling of pets. Resources and tips are shared by pet owners on managing travel stress for their dogs and finding reliable veterinary care in Thailand.
Henrik *****
In the hold the dog is absolutely inside the carrier for the duretion of the flight, plus 2-4 hours longer from check-in to check-out.

Depending of the size of the dog, it could be possibel to have the dog outside the carrier, both at departure and arrival airports, or even during the flight
Linz ************
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@Henrik ****
she will be sat with us in the cabin (in her carrier) on a seat between myself and my wife 👍🏼
James *********
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Linz ************
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@James ********
absolutely not an option with us, she is as loved as her 2 legged sister and brother
James *********
@Linz ***********
sorry, I wasn't suggesting that at all about you Linz.
Linz ************
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@James ********
no, I know you wasn’t but equally felt compelled to clarify 👍🏼🥰
Sara ******
I flied from Frankfurt to Bangkok via Lufthansa and my dog was in cabin. I would never ever put my dog to cargo. Everything went fine 👌
Linz ************
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@Sara *****
thank you
Sara ******
@Linz ***********
my dog sleep almost all flight. I was so panicking because it was her first flight but everything went well. First she was little bit scared and I put my hand to the bag and after one hour she go to sleep.
เตเต้ ******
Lufthansa is the best for animal travel. If you’re transitting thru Frankfurt even better as they’ll get a break at the animal lounge. Brought 2 adult GSD’s here and would/will NEVER use another airline. On both trips the service crew went and checked on them for me. Wouldn’t want to bring them in the cabin even if that was an option. Waaaay too much stress on an animal if they’ve never flown or been in tight quarters with strangers. Zip tie treats and food to outside of kennel and find a good water reservoir that can’t tip/attaches to kennel. Unless things have changed make sure you’ve communicated everything needed to Thai authentic before leaving. And depending on your impending arrival time make sure you have a pet friendly van service either already hired or get ready to deal with the local cabbies potentially turning you away cauz they don’t want to deal with transporting animals.
Linz ************
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@เตเต้ *****
that’s interesting because we are currently looking at Etihad as an alternative

Any thoughts?
เตเต้ ******
@Linz ***********
reason I used Lufthansa is because I found out that all the high priced pet movers in the US used them exclusively. I couldn’t pay what they wanted because they obviously catered to the elite that didn’t own their own aircraft and wanted a serious amount of $$. But the sales team continued to contact me and each time giving me clues and hints about how they went about building the itinerary until they mentioned Lufthansa. Found out later that many of the exclusive zoos in Europe use them to transport animals back n forth to parts of the world.
Linz ************
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@เตเต้ *****
thank you, that is great to know 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼
Jay *********
We moved to Thailand with our cat, flew Korean Air as they had similar policy and would allow her to be in the cabin. Gave her anxiety medicine shortly before leaving for the airport. She was very quiet for the first half of the flight and then very upset for the second half. We offered food and water but she wouldn't eat sadly. Too scared 🥺 She did not enjoy the trip but she got here safely, all her documents were in order and we paid a small fee at the airport upon arrival and that was it! As long as your dog is small you should be fine
Paula *********
We travelled from Australia to Thailand with 2 shepherds and 2 cats, all in cargo hold and they were not stressed at all. We also used a professional pet transport company from Australia. well worth it. And yes keep your dog away from soi dogs, they all carry some disease. Make sure you keep your rabies and vacinations up too, and we treat our pet every month with Bravecto, it's a must.
Paula *************
We brought both of our dogs with us when we moved here. They both settled in well (we have a West Highland Terrier and a very large White German Shepherd). People also warned us about bringing our “non-native” dogs with us but they’re our family and our vet told us straight out the trauma of ‘abandoning’ them would likely be worse than any adjustment they’d need to make here. They’re both happy and healthy senior dogs (15.5 and 11 years old). So, of course you need to be mindful of ticks and staying on top of jabs, Nexguard etc the same as everywhere) but please don’t worry about that it is all manageable. We used United Pets to help with the necessary paperwork and bringing them to Samui for us (GSD is too large to fly hold with Bangkok Airways). Their details are below in case you need them:-

Joy Belle Llenado

Sales Manager

United Pet Express

Division of United Relocations (Thailand) Co., Ltd.

32/3 Bangna-Trad Soi 56, Bangna, Bangkok
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Bangna-Trad Soi 56, Bangna, Bangkok 10260

Tel: +66 (0) 2316 2391 ext 31 Fax: +66 (0) 2316 2394

Mobile: +66 (0) 81 899 1416
Carlo ******************
We just came back with our dog from Europe, a border collie that traveled with us in the cabin with no carrier because is a PSD service dog, while you are on the plane it's great but be ready to present all the right documentation in all the airports even if you stop for a connection...very stressful but worth😉
Noah *********
I’d post on Animal Travelers group!!
Sascha **********
I’ve flown my (Thai) cat back and forth a few times (EU-Thailand) always in cabin. If any way possible always have your pet with you in cabin!!!

Make sure all the paperwork is in order, you’ll walk out of the airport with your dog, no problem.

Tick & flea drops, regular worm treatment and always keep an eye on the dog as it’s not used to Thai dog life, snakes, scorpions and other critters
Zamira ******************
Try asking here Bangkok Pet Lovers
Grzegorz ***********
@Linz ***********
I can't give you an exact answer on your queries, but I can share my story for additional courage.

I just finished moving with my 7yo English Bulldog from Poland to Thailand. We took the land route from Poland through Berlin to Amsterdam, roughly 14h in total. One day rest, then he flew in cabin with me from Amsterdam, through Singapore to Phuket with SIA, as ESA (sadly not an option anymore since April - but he was allowed to travel without carrier and was a star for the cabin crew). Train trip was tough, he was getting too bored, but plane flight went smoothly, he mostly slept throughout it without any accidents for 17h.

Definitely tire him out to maximum before flight for whole week, mild sedatives are OK also leading up to flight (i.e. CBD oil). IMO pet carrier is the more humane way - some dogs like cramped spaces as it gives them comfort in stress. Cargo hold is unpredictable, and it's a long journey, I would not put my dog in there ever.

If your budget allows it-consider going business class (I splurged out, as my meathead takes a lot of space, zero regrets despite big cost). The amount of space there (A350, especially if you score bulkhead seats) and privacy pretty much means you would be fine letting him out for brief period if he is unhappy a lot.

Thailand wise - it's not an easy country for foreign dogs. Heat and humidity is off the charts. Ticks did not stick to mine in a week, but Bravecto/Nexgard is IMO a good defence, also against other parasites. Soi dogs can be unfriendly to new dogs on the block - we met a pack of three so far on Ko Lanta (still keeping mostly around our house), but they didn't get too close and kept their distance. There are regions where I'd be more wary of walking my dog (i.e. Ao Nang, the packs there are a little too brave). Definitely try to have a good vet near your location (with emergency on-call option), and try to secure local means of travel in advance, otherwise you will get ripped off.

Any advices or questions you may have - feel free to DM me, we are still finding our way around Thailand, but despite it being a big challenge (even finding an accomodation is way bigger pain), it's manageable.
Sri ***
Lufthansa is best for dog travel

They don’t spray any liquid to calm down which is not safe, dont allow them to do if they but I got mine to India, they never do

If it’s small breed, you can keep them in ur seat as cabin otherwise they need specified crate for check-in, if the transfer is not more than 8 hrs, they don’t give food or take them out for walking, buy crate and bowl to keep food and water inside the crate

It’s emotional, don’t worry Lufthansa maintain temp for dogs so that they will be fine

You can also inquire to crew member after few hours to remind them that dog is in cargo area so that they can talk to captain to find out the temp and pressure of that area.

Hope s/he would reaches safely to Thailand
Andy ***********
Good to know . So i will never fly long with Lufthansa !!
Linz ************
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@Sri **
thank you
Sarita *******
I brought 6 dogs recently in the hold. All did fine and as it was an overnight flight they slept most of the way. When they say hold, there is a specific climate controlled area for animals and most airline only allow 1 families pets on the flight so that there is no stress between the animals. Having relocated a couple of times now with animals I can guarantee it's us humans that stress more than the dog. My suggestion that you crate train them before you fly. I started 2 months before relocating. Also I ensured they had lots of exercise prior to the flights but as recommended i not feed them for I think 4 to 6 hrs before the flight. I cam from a country with lots of Rick's so have always maintained treatment for that. 1 thing that we that works for ticks is head and shoulders shampoo so out guys get bathed about every two weeks with that. And we also regularly check for ticks. The animals are always the last to be loaded onto the flight and the first off to reduce the stress for them. In some flights the cabin crew are able to go and check on them as well.. my guys have had no issues here in the last 6 mths since they arrived. There are also lots of vets here and it is an animal friendly country. I have been able to take some of them to cafes etc where we could sit outside with them. Hope that helps and good luck..
Zoe ******
@Sarita ******
I'm flying from Portugal to BKK, will land in BKK at 10 in the morning. It will be my dog's first time in hold to such a hot country, I just hope the heat won't be too much for him.
Sarita *******
@Zoe *****
I'd you live in Portugal your dogs will be used to some heat in the summer. It's more the humidity here so make sure your dogs have water at all times. Mine live in the house so have Aircon and fans available but also came from the extreme heat of dubai. As we did in dubai my dogs go it when it is cooler, early morning and late afternoon. Don't leave them outside in the midday sun and they should be fine. If you need any other help just dm me. The process on arrival is a bit long, unless you have an agent taking them through the arrival process. Good luck
Linz ************
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@Zoe *****
best wishes, hope everything goes smoothly
Linz ************
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@Sarita ******
thank you
Jasmine *********
I have taken my dog from India to Manila in cabin and believe u me if ur dog fits the prescribed limit in weight for in cabin please take your dog with you in cabin. Try to get a flight maybe with a connection so u can get out and walk and maybe even feed your dog mid way. I have heard horror stories of dogs in the cargo hold and would never recommend that to anyone.
Linz ************
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Harriet *******
I would suggest reaching out to
@Relo*****
with any questions you might have, they are an excellent relocation service I have worked with multiple times 👍🏻
Kealy ************
I flew London - Phuket with a cat and dog in the hold with Thai airways. They were absolutely fine and I think I was more stressed than they were. There’s a lot of paperwork to sort out and they may try to quarantine them on arrival, but we paid 2000 baht to avoid quarantine in true Thai style 🤣
Zoe ******
@Kealy ***********
are you saying that you had to bribe someone to not quarantine your dog, even though you had all the required paperwork? I'm flying to BKK with my dog in 2 weeks, have all paperwork done, just want to get a feel of what i should expect.
Kealy ************
@Zoe *****
you can expect that for sure. It’s not much, my advice is just to be polite, pay how much they want, and you’ll have no problems 🙂
Linz ************
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@Kealy ***********
thank you 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼
Marc ******
@Kealy ***********
I paid 500bath for that Thai style for Marley 🤪🤪🤪🤪🤪
Kealy ************
@Marc *****
fs 🤣 tbf I had 2
Rei ***********
@Kealy ***********
there's no quarantine for animal when arrived here in Thailand. You just need an import permit and you can take out the dog with you. I know because I'm a pet shipper here in Thailand
Kealy ************
@Rei **********
if pets look at all unwell they can quarantine them, but I don’t think it’s actually something they ever do
Rei ***********
@Kealy ***********
before your dog will fly , you need to get health certificate, fully vaccinated so that you can get export permit. Airlines will not allow you to take your dog without it.
Kealy ************
@Rei **********
I know I’ve done it already 🤣
Rei ***********
@Kealy ***********
if the dog is unwell, it's your call weather you will take it to the vet or home. They will not quarantine it. Sometimes they even not checking the dog, only the documents.
Martin *********
They get sedated in the hold I believe, so should be stress free, although I suppose it could be sedated in the cabin too, I guess it's down to the cost.
Sara ******
@Martin ********
they don't sedate. My vet said it's dangerous.
เตเต้ ******
@Martin ********
they don’t sedate animals 😂
Zoe ******
@Martin ********
sedation is not recommended by vets because it affects their breathing. I've taken many international flights with my dog and would never sedate him. Too dangerous.
Linz ************
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@Martin ********
they do not sedate dogs/ cats in the hold anymore due to the risk of respiratory failure, larger animals may be sedated via injection if absolutely necessary 👍🏼
Alistair **********
@Martin ********
they don't sedate them
Martin *********
Ta, I wasn't sure.
Kealy ************
@Martin ********
I don’t think sedation is allowed anymore because it can affect their breathing. You can buy tablets in most pet shops that help keep them calm 🙂
Dawn ********
I can understand you want to bring your dog & if you’ve visited Thailand many times I’m sure you are aware of the situation here with dogs. But don’t let that deter you. Many people walk their dogs along the beach and most strays love a bark, but not always brave. Always recommend bringing her excess baggage drop her off checking in & she will still go in hold. I was told they spray a spray to calm them, but won’t be so stressful.. you can collect her where you collect baggage. Your going to worry anyway! I’m not sure about being in the cabin I think it depends on weight and size including carrier cage like you say - but that would be very stressful for you if she starts barking. Cargo are dropped off 4 hrs prior flight then you’ve got flight, then collection other end. As previous person says Tic’s are rife when walking & are not good. Nexgard spectra is widely used. Just have to keep on top of everything. Allow
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months prior to arriving in Thailand for paperwork and bloods.
Linz ************
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@Dawn *******
thank you
Lynnette *******
Tick treatment is essential ( like in many countries!) so as long as you keep up to date with that and have a good vet here, the dog should be fine.

Travel: My dog flew from Phuket, to Bangkok, to UK. In the hold. He was fine.

My son's Thai dog flew via Bangkok, Amsterdam, NY, to Panama. In the hold. And at 12 he did Panama to Europe and after a month flew Frankfurt to Atlanta. All in the hold. He was just fine.
Linz ************
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@Lynnette ******
thank you, had not thought about ticks until someone else mentioned it, good advice 👍🏼
Lynnette *******
@Linz ***********
ticks are prevalent but lots of other countries have this issue too, including USA. Just need to get good tick prevention treatment. Pet healthcare is cheap enough in Phuket, Thailand. My other son has a Maltese and a poodle they take to the beach and other places. The local street dogs near his house are no trouble either.
Linz ************
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@Lynnette ******
thank you, our dog has monthly treatment that also includes ticks but they are not very prevalent where we live, in the 10 years we have had her, we have found 1 tick (dead) on her thanks to her treatment so good advice, thank you
Dawn ********
@Lynnette ******
oh I’m so sorry for your loss. But what a wonderful life he had. Lucky boy 🥰
Lynnette *******
@Dawn *******
my son and daughter in law's dog. But yes, he had a good life.
Dawn ********
@Lynnette ******
wow…. A Jet setter ❤️
Lynnette *******
@Dawn *******
he's done road troops through Europe. The east coast of USA. Been up mountains down valleys. Through the Everglades. On boats. In canoes. Sadly passed away in march this year.
Av **********
Please keep in mind that animals that are not native to this area have a very difficult time here. You have to be very cautious and keep them separated from local dogs and tics are everywhere. You have to check them throughout the day to make sure they don't have tics. We once picked up our dog from the airport here and the cage was upside down, god knows when the last time he got water. Anyway, we had to send him to go live in America as he didn't cut it out here as now the tics have left him with life long issues.
Steve **********
@Linz ***********
hard to avoid ticks as they ' wander'...if dog is inside

Pet....well, you know what you're doing...be careful
Lisa ***************
I brought my large dog with me. He is fine. Yes....it's a different environment and our lives aren't the same as in other places (Pepe stays home more than in the past because Thailand isnt set up to have pets as family (unlike Germany or even in the states). It's harder to find pet friendly restaurants/areas/housing although they're available.

My dog is a service dog (which also isn't recognized in Thailand) so he rode in the cabin with me. Hardest part is getting all your time sensitive documents ready for your furry.
Linz ************
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@Av *********
thank you for mentioning Ticks, that is not something we had thought about, we have seen numerous YouTube clips about the local dogs and try to avoid them 👍🏼
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