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Should I get a new US passport before applying for my next Thai visa or can I apply for a new visa and then get a new passport?

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Nov 20, 2022
2 years ago
Jonathan ********
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My US passport expires 11/23 my annual Thai visa expires 1/23. Are my choices get a new passport and transfer current visa before I apply for next visa or get new visa and then a new passport?
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The user is inquiring about whether to renew their US passport and transfer their current Thai visa before applying for a new visa or to get a new visa while awaiting the new passport. Community responses suggest that obtaining a new passport first is advisable because any visa extension in the old passport will only be valid until the passport expires. If the user can secure the new passport before the visa expiration, they can avoid complications and the need to apply for visa extensions twice within the year. Essential advice includes keeping both passports during the transition and notifying relevant agencies of the new passport information.
Jonathan ********
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Update: Applied for new US passport and was told at US consulate that I should keep both passports (new and voided old one) and just have next Thai visa put into new one.
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William **********
Can anyone tell me if after your 45 days and 30 day extension can u leave the country then come back and get 45 more days
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Stuart *********
@William *********
 yes. As long as you don’t have an extensive history of visa exempt or back to back tourist entries immigration probably won’t have any issue. 1 time, 2 times perhaps. After that expect to be questioned why you’re trying to stay long term in Thailand without a correct visa.
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William **********
@Stuart ********
 thanks again for your info
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Vic *********
I believe they will make you move the old visa (extension?) to your new passport before they will extend the visa into your new passport. I had to do this earlier this year. You would think you could just put the new extension into the new passport but you would be wrong...TiT.
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Jonathan ********
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@Vic ********
 , thanks I’ll go ask with both passports in hand, should be around 2 weeks before I need to apply for a new one.
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Joe ******
Is it legal to stay in Thailand country on an expired passport.
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Vic *********
@Joe *****
 His passport expires next November and his visa extension expires in January. No expired passport.
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Stuart *********
@Joe *****
 Nope.
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Peter *********
What do you think lol 😆
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 actually if you get your extension before your passport expires, the extension will only be valid until the passport expires. You get it transferred to your new passport, but then you have to apply for your year extension again, as it does not automatically extend out to the full year on your new passport. To get the full year, and not have to apply again in the same year, it is best to get a new passport first. It saves having to apply for your year's extension twice in the same year
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Stuart *********
@Kool ******
 Er? Not sure if you’re replying to the wrong person. I said that.
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Jonathan ********
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@Stu***
, thanks I'm following all the comments even as hard as the one above is to.
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When you do finally get your new passport , apart from getting the visa stamps swapped into your new passport,DONT forget to inform all your providers of your new passport number, this normally includes banks, credit card companies, utility companies, and all other companies that have your personal information on their database.
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John ******
@Peter ******
 if you forget this: no problem. First time you need to show your pasport at bank etc they will first change it in their database.
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Jonathan ********
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@Peter ******
 , interesting as that would be quite a list that likely I’m not aware of in it’s entirety. In the past I’ve updated as necessary as I go.
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Judy *******
@Jonathan *******
 As long as you have the details of your old passport if you need to contact them it's ok
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Joseph *********
Received mine in three weeks.
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Cliff *********
Do you think you can get a new USA passport in three days? Unlikely.

What will you do when it expires? How will you be able to travel anywhere?

You should think about getting back home quickly!
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John **********
@Jonathan *******
 think he just read the date as 23rd November and not November 2023
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Mark ******
@John *********
 It would be helpful if the Yanks wrote the dates the same way as normal people, wouldn't it? 😂
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Jonathan ********
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@Mark *****
 have you noticed how the original poster wrote the date and the the country of origin of his pasport?
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Mark ******
@Jonathan *******
 Yes, he wrote
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(and expiry
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). Obviously November 2023 and January 2023.
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Jonathan ********
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@Mark *****
 yeah "he" did write it like normal (local) people
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Mark ******
@Jonathan *******
 ...and somebody thought it meant 23rd November and 23rd January. Most Americans use the completely illogical month/day/year instead of the logical progression of day/month/year.
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Cliff *********
@Mark *****
 you cannot understand replying to what the person wrote rather than adding your foolishness?
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Mark ******
@Cliff ********
 Obviously that is the case with others who choose to completely confuse the issue with foolishly ignorant interpretations of the question in the first place.
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Ruth *******
@Mark *****
 whether logical or illogical, that’s standard date format in the States. If one is accustomed to that format, that’s how they would read the date. THAT is logical. I’m not sure what value there is in calling someone out for misunderstanding, although I know this group is full of people who love to make others feel like crap for their own amusement. I believe there’s a word for that.
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 I was merely making the point that if America would conform with normality, things would be a lot less confusing for everyone. I wasn’t “calling out” anyone in particular, just making a point. If you took umbrage at that, then so be it.
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Ruth *******
@Mark *****
 I'm not the one who made the error, but yeah...I take umbrage with anyone being called out for making honest, understandable mistakes. I'm tired of the abuse on this group. Is it really that difficult to treat others with respect?
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Mark ******
@Ruth ******
 As I said, I'm not "calling out" anyone, merely pointing out that the American way of writing dates is different to the rest of the world and confuses people, as evidenced by this thread. That is just a fact.
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Ruth *******
@Mark *****
 I think this debate has carried on far too long and will allow you that last word.
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Mark ******
@Ruth ******
 That last word
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Jonathan ********
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@Mark *****
 , do you think that’s because they just choose to or because that’s the standard their country’s uses? But I not only agree that day/month/year makes more sense but was the sole reason I emigrated!
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Ruth *******
@Mark *****
 fortunately, some of us would never want to be called “normal”, but I’d have to agree about the dates. It is rather frustrating that we are accustomed to a different representation than others. It makes life more complicated.
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@Cliff ********
 because they think
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means November 23rd not November of 2023. Pretty understandable mistake.
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Cliff *********
@Wylie ******
 that seems more reasonable 5555
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Stuart *********
If you can get a new passport before your annual extension runs out then that’s the best option.

If you can’t you apply for an annual extension in January and they’ll stamp one until the date of expiry of your passport. When you get your new passport you take the letter you got from the embassy with old and new passports to immigration to get the stamps swapped over. Your yearly annual extensions would now be in November rather than January.
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Jonathan ********
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What happens to my current visa if I get a new passport with blank pages?
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Stuart *********
@Jonathan *******
 you take it to immigration to get the stamps swapped over. However as it’s so close to the time of renewal they may well just stamp the passport change stamp and new extension at the same time.
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Jonathan ********
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@Stuart ********
 meaning they might not swap it and just tell me to wait and they will just use my new passport when I get my new visa?
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Stuart *********
@Jonathan *******
 yes.
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Jonathan ********
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@Stuart ********
 thanks, sounds simple enough.
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