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Should I apply for a 30-day extension or do a border run in Thailand?

May 28, 2025
3 days ago
Tra ******
ORIGINAL POSTER
I'm looking for an opinion on the safest way to go about this. I entered Thailand on a Visa Exempt Entry. That gave me 60 days. I'm coming up on that 60 days soon. Would it make more sense to go to immigration and apply for the 30 day extension that most people do, or does it make more sense to skip that step and immediately start using a border run company until I'm able to get my longer term visa situated? I'm just looking for the option between the 2 that decreases my chance the most of getting rejected.
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TLDR : Answer Summary
A user, nearing the end of their 60-day Visa Exempt Entry in Thailand, is seeking advice on whether to apply for a 30-day extension at immigration or to use a border run company instead. The community generally recommends opting for the extension as it poses less risk of rejection compared to potential complications during border crossing. Several comments emphasize that extensions are usually approved without issues, while border runs can raise red flags for immigration officers, especially if perceived as avoiding long-term visa requirements. There's a growing sentiment that extensions can lead to further complications for those trying to stay longer in Thailand without a proper visa.
Mark *******
I intend to revisit soon, hopefully next month. And will have accommodation booked,onward transportation,and of course the financial requirements.
Mark *******
My recent history entering Thailand: All on visa exemption. 13 days in February, 14 days in April, 2024; from June 2024 until February 2025, 30 days in June,obtained upon arrival. 60 days in July,60 days late August,60 days late October,and 60 days days late December. I never had any issues/ problems at all! I hold a full British passport.

Hence I would respectfully suggest,that nationality counts,as does appearance, demeanour, age, and politeness.
Jay ************
I have had issues the last few years coming back a second time to the country. Sometimes after coming here initially with an e-visa from the US, sometimes just the stamp, etc. I've done a lot of variations, NEVER coming back more than once in a year, so basically two entries. A couple of years ago it took me 20 minutes before the officer let me in. EVERY time in each of those three years, upon my second time coming in, they pretty much interrogated me extensively, and asked me for my flight back to the US.
Lynnette *******
So you've been here 2 months and still don't know what sort of visa you need?
Tra ******
ORIGINAL POSTER
@Lynnette ******
I've been here for 37 days. And I know the general options that are available to me, but haven't narrowed down the one that I'm most comfortable with yet. And my question on this post wasn't about asking people what visas are available, it was about doing my first 30 day extension. And there was no need to narrow down a long term visa in advance, because my mind wasn't made up that I'd even stay past my first 90 days. Now that I've been here a little bit over one month, I've now decided to put more energy into narrowing down long term options. Thanks for taking the time to respond to my post.
Lynnette *******
@Tra *****
you may get more info and advice from people on here if you explain a bit more about what your situation is.
Tra ******
ORIGINAL POSTER
@Lynnette ******
The group was very helpful and informative in giving me the information I needed. I only had one question. I wanted to know if it was safer to do a 30 day extension at immigration myself after my 60 days from the Visa Exempt Entry, or skip that and go straight to a border run company. And almost everyone told me that it made sense to do the 30 day extension myself. That was the question that I was looking to get answered, and everyone was very helpful in answering that. I was able to get clear direction on what makes the most sense almost immediately. Some people asked questions that were unrelated to my original question, and I just simply entrained those conversations. But I didn't go into as much detail on the other stuff, because those weren't things that I was seeking advice on. And I already received exactly what I inquired about. But I provided all of the details for the question that I specifically wanted to have answered. And I was able to get that answered quickly thanks to the group. And I do agree. The more details the better. Thank you for your help as well.
Greg ***********
As of July15th, 2024, the limit of two visa-exempt entries across a land border per calendar year, was removed.

As of now, there is no limit cited in any Immigration policy. There is no more rule in the writing that says how many times within a calendar year you can enter Thailand on a visa-exempt entry.

But that doesn't mean it's unlimited.

Every entry is at the discretion of the Immigration officer you are standing in front of, and if they feel you're not a tourist, or if they think you are abusing visa-free entries by trying to stay in Thailand long term, you'll be pulled aside, questioned and possibly denied entry, or being told to use a visa next time. Then you will be allowed in but your name is “flagged” in the central computer, so every other border official will see that you have been warned.

Right now, we see many reports of this happening to people after only one (!) single 60-days visa-exempt entry topped with a 30-days extension.

There aren’t any 2-times limits nor are there any 4-times limits, regardless if you enter by land, sea or air

You can take one 30-days extension on a 60-days visa exempt entry for 1900 Baht at the immigration office serving the area where you stay. But that shows that you are apparently maximizing every stay.

Keep in mind, after your first visa-exempt entry, across any land border you're going to run into problems trying to bounce by yourself out/back to get a new free 60-days entry stamp

and even by bouncing via an airport you could run into problems.

If you try to bounce by yourself, you should know that some crossings with Laos and Cambodia require you spend at least one night and sometimes 2 nights out of Thailand before you can come back.

You could post your question on a group related to where you stay in Thailand and ask for recommendations for an agent/service that bounces people out/back from there.

These “visa-run agencies” have it set up with the Thai side of border control, so you can benefit. They grease the palms so you can get out and back on the same day.

Flying isn't all that much better, because a short bounce out/back (a few days) isn't going to fool the Immigration officials at the passport control when you go to stamp back in. They'll know you're doing it just to get a new free 60-days entry stamp and you could be questioned about your entry.

These Immigration officers all have their own say in the matter. To be allowed consecutive visa-exempt entries is upon their sole discretion. If Mr. Officer Somchai has a bad day, he might not like your trousers and deny entry.

To answer your question about how many times you can do a visa-exempt entry into Thailand within a 365-days calendar year, the point is, any visa exempt entry, by air or across a land border or by sea, gets you 60 days now (since July 15th, 2024)

So, it doesn't matter where you enter - you will get 60 days stamped – if the border official comes to the conclusion you are a “real” tourist, he/she will let you back in

I am not trying to scaremonger at all, just letting you know this isn't the same Thailand it was back when they were giving 30-days admitted stays when you were doing yearlong consecutive visa-exempt entries.

But - since July 15th, 2024, when they went to 60 days for 93 countries, they got really, really hard on people trying to live in Thailand long term on visa-free stamps.

They look at it as you got 60 days, you could have extended that for 30 more giving you three months, and you have maximized your stay. This makes you a real tourist and not someone who tries to milk the visa-free system.

In case the officer at the passport control feels you should have either applied for a long-term visa, he might think that if you were a real tourist, you should be going back to where you came from after these three months

That's why I say look for a service to bounce by land, as they have the wheels greased so you get out/back without hassle, that's why they cost some money for what they do.

But you should expect problems if you try that too many times consecutively. A longer stay abroad between two visa-exempt entries makes you look better. It might work or might not work. We don’t know for sure.

Good luck with it, safe travels
Pedro *******
@Greg **********
If possible your opinion on this. Got the 60 day exempt and after 59 days will leave Thailand for 3 weeks back to my original EU country. But in August i plan to return for 3 months (this time using an extension). Would be safer to ask for a single entry visa for this second stay or i should be fine with a second exempt? I have a past of 2 month/year stays in Thailand for the last several years. Just this year i plan to be 5 months. Never done a border bounce and always have an onward ticket. Thanks !
Greg ***********
@Pedro ******
you should be fine. Make sure you can show 20,000 THB or equivalent in a major currency in cash, and have an onward travel proof
Pedro *******
@Greg **********
Thanks ! I want my return ticket to show the real date 3 months after arrival, but the initial stamp ( with or without visa) is for 60 days. Will this be a problem ? I can spend i little more money in the flight for a flexible fare and change it after i got the stamp.
Greg ***********
@Pedro ******
it will rather be the airline who might want to see an onward travel within the 60 dasy of a visa-exempt entry. Immigration rarely ask for it
Pedro *******
@Greg **********
probably will use Emirates or Qatar Airways
Pedro *******
@Greg **********
If that happens i must change the return date, right ?
Greg ***********
@Pedro ******
if that happens you need to quickly buy an "onwardticket", acheap ticket reservation from the many websites you will find when you google for this word
Pedro *******
@Greg **********
Ok. But if the problem is from the Airline that already sold me the onward ticket this will sound strange. In 2008 i had a visa for 60 days and i extended for another 30, my return ticket was for 90 days and nothing happened, but 17 years its too long for a comparison.
Greg ***********
@Pedro ******
actually, some airlines accept if your return is within 90 days. Two of them are Thai Airways and the Emirates. Many other airlines won't accept it. You can alway send an email inquiry to them with this question
Jeremy ********
@Pedro ******
they rarely look at tickets
Jeremy ********
@Pedro ******
you should be fine with a visa exemption stamp

But if you’re concerned just buy a tourist visa

Do what makes you happiest
Tra ******
ORIGINAL POSTER
@Greg **********
Thanks for the detained response. This post reconfirmed a lot.
Jeremy ********
Don’t do a border run company unless you want to be in a cramped van for 12 hours

You can easily just go to dmk and fly to KL Malaysia and back same day
Steven *********
@Jeremy *******
Very risky advice
Stephen *********
@Jeremy *******
that might raise a red flag. Depends on the immigration officer.
Jeremy ********
@Stephen ********
there is no limits on arrivals via air land or sea…your are fear mongering and posting fake news
Stephen *********
@Jeremy *******
no I am not. It is entirely up to the immigration officer I can promise you. There are limits if they think so. Best to cover yourself first.
Did *****
@Stephen ********
he's just repeating the same line over and over again on every post 🤷🏼‍♂️ maybe he's here on purpose to give bad advice 🤣
Jeremy ********
@Did ****
please show me where there is a limit on entrances via air land or sea
Stephen *********
@Did ****
it's good advice to cover yourself.
Did *****
@Stephen ********
dude you sound like a broken record, I'm not going to have this conversation again with you, it's ridiculous
Stephen *********
@Did ****
yet here you are
Jeremy ********
@Stephen ********
people fly in everyday on visa runs with no problems…the visa run companies know they can’t compete with the ease and efficiency of an airplane
John *******
What longer term visa are you trying to get?
Tra ******
ORIGINAL POSTER
@John ******
I'm honestly still trying to narrow it down to see which one makes the most sense for my situation.
John *******
@Tra *****
which ones you still considering?
Tra ******
ORIGINAL POSTER
@John ******
The DTV Visa is the ideal one that I'd like to do to get 5 years. But I have to be realistic about meeting the requirements. And I'm also just looking for the path of least resistance for now. So, my other option is the ED Visa, and just learning Thai since that'll be useful in this country. But I'm still early in my research.
Kate *******
@Tra *****
do the ED visa first and then you have a good grounding in the language and a whole year to sort yourself out ready to get the DTV.
Tra ******
ORIGINAL POSTER
@Kate ******
That sounds like the most logical thing to do. Thanks
Tank *****
The 30 day is no risk
John **********
Take the extension and get 30 days. Then if you need to border bounce use a border run company to do so. Highly unusual for 30 day extension to be refused
Tra ******
ORIGINAL POSTER
@John *********
ok, thanks. That's the answer that I was looking for.
Jeremy ********
I would recommend a 30 day extension for ฿1,900 THB

Then border bounce for another 60 day visa exemption stamp then another 30 day extension for ฿1,900 THB

You will get 180 days math for haters 60+30+60+30=180 days ) as opposed to 60+90=150 days…maximize your time
Wak ********
@Jeremy *******
this is what I do ☑️
Paul *******
@Jeremy *******
Immigration consider that the Visa Exempt entry is for tourists.If you have already had 90 days in Thailand under the Visa Exempt/extention then Immigration may well consider that you are no longer a tourist and are attempting to stay long term in Thailand and so deny you entry on your second try for a Visa Exempt entry. Immigration has, since the Visa Exempt moved from 30 days to 60 days, questioned/denyed entry to many (but not all) who have tryed for a secomd Visa Exempt entry. Therefore second or third Visa Exempt entrys are frought with risk.
Todd *********
@Paul ******
there is no risk at of not getting a new 60 day. Tourism doesn’t have time limits. It has money and imagination limits. Nobody gets denied on a second entry. And there is no limit
Paul *******
@Todd ********
Fact. I have seen on this site, after the change to 60 days, where many people were pulled aside and questioned on only their second Visa Exempt entry and some were denied entry.
Todd *********
@Paul ******
none were denied. None. Not for a second entry. There would be other reasons.

And being questioned is IO’s doing their job. Nothing more, nothing less. Expect it if you are spending 6 months or more in any nation. It’s irrelevant if you are a legit tourist. And if you have the funds, you can carry on like that as long as you wish
Jeremy ********
@Paul ******
they had a bad experience that’s all
Jeremy ********
@Paul ******
there is no official limit on border runs either by land sea or air…so you are within the rule and playbook of the immigration system

Now with saying that you could run into a problem or never run into a problem

TiT where everything is as clear as mud and changes daily
Paul *******
@Jeremy *******
So, just as I posted?
Tra ******
ORIGINAL POSTER
@Jeremy *******
That will get me the most days in terms of looking at the math if everything works out. But do I run a bigger risk of getting denied a 30 day extension doing it myself, vs skipping that step and going straight to a border run company? My issue is more about trying to minimize my risk as much as possible. Or does the 30 day extension normally go through smoothly assuming your paperwork is in order?
Todd *********
@Tra *****
they never deny a 30 day extension. There is no risk
Tra ******
ORIGINAL POSTER
@Todd ********
Thanks for the reassurance.
Jeremy ********
@Tra *****
it’s super simple…

Just bring a blue ink pen (very important) 2 passport photos, fill out the paper work at the Sotomor (Chaeng Wattana), get a number go buy a coffee then go see the immigration officer and pay ฿1,900 THB

I personally go in the afternoon around 1300 hours since I’m not a morning person, they are open until 1700 but will stay until the last person is seen with a valid Queue number…

Super simple no need for an agent…unless you want to waste the agent fee
Tra ******
ORIGINAL POSTER
@Jeremy *******
Alright, thanks for the detailed response. It seems like the answer to my question is clear now
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