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How can I obtain my stepmother's birth certificate from Thailand if she is currently in the US and has lost it?
Thai Birth CertificateObtaining Documents from ThailandThai EmbassyAdoption RecordsImmigration IssuesDementia and Records AccessLost Documents
Jun 18, 2021
5 years ago
Amanda ********
ORIGINAL POSTERHello everyone. I need some help and information PLEASE!!! My step mom was born in Thailand in 1957 and has been in the United States for over 40 years now. She has Dementia now and can not remember where she placed her birth certificate. My dad needs it for insurance and social security purposes. I have called everywhere to try to get help on how to get a birth certificate from Thailand. Also, I have her maiden name but have no idea on how to spell it. (Suminajacasant) That's how it sounds. I contacted the hospital in Bangkok and I can request her medical records but I need the correct spelling of her maiden name and a hospital number which I have no idea on how to get that either. Thank you in advance!!! Any information will be helpful.
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An expat seeks to obtain a birth certificate for their stepmother, born in Thailand, who has dementia and cannot locate her documents. The community suggests contacting the district office (Amphur) in Thailand, the Thai embassy in the US, and possibly looking into adoption records, given that she was adopted in the US. Multiple comments provide insights into dealing with bureaucracy and suggest exploring Thai attorneys or medical records for assistance.
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Amanda ********
ORIGINAL POSTERThank you everyone for all the information and advise!!! I really appreciate it. God bless you all and stay safe and healthy!!!🙏😀
Becky **********
Being born in 1957 it would be hard to get a birth certificate here in Thailand because most ampors have no records that far back they tell you to contact the hospital that the person was born and then the hospital tells you the opposite. If she was adopted the adoption agency should have records. They couldn’t have done the adoption without proper records. You have to call the embassy in your jurisdiction. Depending on where you live. Calling different ones won’t really help
Amanda ********
ORIGINAL POSTER@Becky *********
thank you 😊. I tried to call the one in Los Angeles, California and they are extremely hard to get ahold of. I will keep trying though. Thank you again!!Lisa ********************
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email them . Amanda ********
ORIGINAL POSTER@Lisa *******************
I have tried and no response. But I will try again. Thank you 😊Reply to
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Richard *****
Wouldnt bother !!
Greg ************
You mentioned she was adopted in the US, do you have the name of the the person who adopted her (Stepfather) or his wife? Or does she have any stepbrothers/sisters or extended family in the US. You may then be able to use that to access her adoption records and hopefully get a copy of an original passport (US or Thai) and trace back that way?
You say she was adopted in the US so she must have traveled there by some means. Original Thai passport, travel document from the US Embassy in Thailand?
If however she travelled illegally and was granted permission to stay then subsequently adopted, you may have the unfortunate situation of there never being a Birth Certificate to begin with. 2 friends of my wife’s family here in the Philippines and currently in their early 20’s are facing bureaucratic nightmares because their parents didn’t register their births. The same happening in 1957 is a definite possibility, especially if she’s from a remote area of Thailand.
You say she was adopted in the US so she must have traveled there by some means. Original Thai passport, travel document from the US Embassy in Thailand?
If however she travelled illegally and was granted permission to stay then subsequently adopted, you may have the unfortunate situation of there never being a Birth Certificate to begin with. 2 friends of my wife’s family here in the Philippines and currently in their early 20’s are facing bureaucratic nightmares because their parents didn’t register their births. The same happening in 1957 is a definite possibility, especially if she’s from a remote area of Thailand.
Amanda ********
ORIGINAL POSTERThank you so much for the help and info. !!!
Greg ************
I updated my post after you replied, I added some other thoughts at the end. I hope you catch a break soon. 🙏
Amanda ********
ORIGINAL POSTERYeah thats what I am worried about. She has worked in the US for over 40 years a college university graduate and has a California ID card, with all that you would think her birth certificate would be on file somewhere right??
Amanda ********
ORIGINAL POSTERThank you, yes, I have it but no luck yet, I will keep trying. I will try to contact adoption agency for that county.
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Frank ******
Lot easier if one of you here while husband in USA to expedite matters
Amanda ********
ORIGINAL POSTERSo we would have to travel to Bangkok?
Cambodia **************
You have to pick it up in her province
Gene **********
Wild guess? Her father was in Thai Army? Maybe they can help with name?
Amanda ********
ORIGINAL POSTER@Gene *********
I will try that. Thank you. Gene **********
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also there are Thai attorneys in the USA that deal with a variety of issues!Amanda ********
ORIGINAL POSTER@Gene *********
perfect thank you. I didn't know that. Thank you Reply to
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Teya *******
I would start Thai embassy in US. They must have copies of her documents.
Steve **********
@Teya ******
That's probably true, and will get better cooperation on that end.Amanda ********
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I have tried. They said there is no record of herTeya *******
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US Immigration? She must have applied for a visa when arrived.Amanda ********
ORIGINAL POSTER@Teya ******
we have tried the US immigration and they want a copy of her birth certificate even though she has been in the US since she was 7 and was adopted over here. No one will tell us any info. If she was adopted by a US citizen would she still need a green card? Sorry it's so much info and all confusing. We have been trying for 3 years now and dealing with immigration. Frédéric ******************
@Amanda *******
Strange that she haven't got a US transcript of her birth certificate.Amanda ********
ORIGINAL POSTER@Frédéric ****************
. Honestly I don't know. We kinda lost all info when her deminia kicked in. Do you know if I would contact like the hall of records for that? Reply to
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La ***********
you can go to district office to request her information.
Amanda ********
ORIGINAL POSTERShe doesn't have anyone left in Thailand that can do a POA for her. And she is sick with deminia, so she hardly remembers anything.
Amanda ********
ORIGINAL POSTER@Tee *******
we are in the US so is the district office in Thailand?La ***********
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then your mom can sign the POA to anyone to do it. Reply to
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Urai ********
They could have her record of extended her passport
Urai ********
Call thai ambassy in Vancouver
Amanda ********
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thank youReply to
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Becky ***********
You will need to contact district office (Amphur) that she was born. and they will guide you
Amanda ********
ORIGINAL POSTER@Becky **********
Thank you!!!Amanda ********
ORIGINAL POSTERDo you have any idea about how her maiden last name could be spelled?
Becky ***********
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I'm not sure if I can spell it right. Even i try it, it doesn't sound right anyway 🤣Amanda ********
ORIGINAL POSTER@Becky **********
thank youBecky ***********
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can she spell her own name in Thai?Amanda ********
ORIGINAL POSTER@Becky **********
not anymore she is sick with deminia and hardly remembers anything. That's why this is so hard for my dad and I, especially being in the US.Jawahar *********
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ไม้เด่นAmanda ********
ORIGINAL POSTERFederico **********
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@Jawahar ********
wrote the word "maiden" in Thai characters...Not what u r looking for 😅
Do u have any other info? Did he ever hold a Thai passport/ ID card/ house registration book etc...? Her last name will be in Thai in any of those and w her Thai ID its breeze to get stuff done
Amanda ********
ORIGINAL POSTER@Federico *********
lol. Thank you. She has nothing... her father passed away in the army in Thailand and her mother remarried a us army guy and that's how she got to the US. My dad has contacted the uscis to and it's a big mess. I have called the embassy in Washington DC and in San Francisco. I will try the one in Vancouver Mark ******
@Amanda *******
As Federico has said, being able to spell her name phonetically will do you no good. Unless she has any old documents with her name in Thai, or a Thai friend who could spell her name for you in Thai characters, you are probably out of luck. You might try having her speak to somebody at your local Thai Consulate/Embassy who could write her name for you in Thai. Amanda ********
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Thank you.!! I will start making more calls. Frédéric ******************
@Amanda *******
I'm sure there are people with the same family name living in the district she was born and they will be able to find the correct spelling.Reply to
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