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Do I need my new landlord present to file a TM30 after changing addresses in Thailand?

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Aug 19, 2019
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Cindy *********
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Sorry but I haven't been able to find an answer to my specific question through searches.

I filled a tm30 upon arrival with the landlord present as it was my first time.

I'm going to do a border run tomorrow and understand when I get back I need to refile another tm30.

I have since changed houses and my current landlord is out of the country. Since I have already filled a tm30 does this new landlord need to be present or can I just give them the new address and get the paperwork put in my passport?
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The user inquired about the necessity of having their new landlord present to file a TM30 form after changing residences in Thailand. They initially completed a TM30 with the previous landlord but now face the challenge of filing a new one since the new landlord is abroad. Responses indicated that a new TM30 must be filed within 24 hours of entering the country with the updated address. It was clarified that the new TM30 is required and that the user can visit the immigration office for guidance on completing the process.
Tod *********
The TM30 counter at the Chiang Mai immigration office by the airport is open 7 days a week. Stop in when you get back from your border bounce.

You've switched residences so that first TM30 is worthless (they are address specific) so you'll be doing a completely new one. I think it's gonna take you going to the immigration office to find out what exactly you need,

BUT because this is another TM30 thread, we're done (and you have some good advice already) .
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@Cindy ********
 there will be no fine since the requirements are for notification within 24 hrs of entering the country. Since you will be doing a border bounce (which means you will have a new TM6) and presumably reporting within 24hrs of entering the kingdom, no fine.
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Ellie *******
Your case is pretty simple. You need to be filed (by landlord or yourself) TM30 within 24 hours after you arrive new “exact address”, it’s not the area of immigration office.
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Dan ******
Don't wait up for any solution or resolution to this. I think landlords are going to get fed up with this faster than the expats and, as is already happening, will refuse to rent to foreigners. I would be surprised to see any loosening of the "rules" here. Other shoes are waiting to drop, such as insurance requirements. At least I am fortunate in one regard. My wife is my "landlady" and she said she would tolerate renting to a foreigner, IE only one who met all her "specifications".
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Roger ********
Landlords refusing to rent? Now there would be a thing
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James ********
As it is nightime in Thailand, I suggest we await replies in the morning from those in Chiang Mai who have personal experience with the TM30. Good Night Thailand.
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James ********
Where are you or what Immigration Office in Thailand?
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James ********
@Peter **********************
 you are correct. Thank you for sharing your helpful advice.
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ถนอมศรี **********************
Some offices allow you to travel in Thailand without a new TM30, other do not. So you need to check this at every immigration you live under. I believe all immigrations demand a new TM30 after a travel outside Thailand.
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Cindy *********
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@Peter **********************
 got it. That's my fault for not understanding everything in full first. Thank you for the full explanation I really appreciate it.
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ถนอมศรี **********************
If you still was living in the house you last reported in, then immigration depending on office would let you register without the landlord. But you have a new adress and a new landlord. You cannot expect to register a new adress on a previous landlord. The house you live in is not the previous landlords house.

You can explain the situation at immigration when you arrive, but I do believe there will be a fine, because this is illegal in Thailand. Chiang Mai is known to be strict. But I cannot foretell how they will see this.
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ถนอมศรี **********************
Ok, so you did not even meet them the same day you got the house? TM30 is expected within 24 hour from arrival to the new house. Not days or later. That's why there is a possibility for a fine in this situation.
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Cindy *********
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@Peter **********************
 I'm house sitting and the new landlord is not in the country. They did not file a tm30 for me. I have only moved a few days ago (I know not their problem but thought worth mentioning)
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Cindy *********
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Yes I filled a tm30 within 24 hours of arriving to Thailand with the first landlord present.

I just moved from the address I filed the tm30 for. My extension is about up so I'm doing a border run and understand that every time you depart and re-enter Thailand you must file a tm30 within 24 hours.
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James ********
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 have you been at Chiang Mai Immigration before to file a TM30?
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ถนอมศรี **********************
What I understand, when you say, I have since changed house and you mention new landlord.

Your new landlord did not file a tm30 whitin 24 hour of your arrival to the new house?

Depending on how they see it when you now arrive from outside country, you might get a fine.

TM30 is for every new adress with landlord you have.
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Cindy *********
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@James *******
 thank you. When we went the first time they asked us if it was the first time and said if so the landlord needed to be present. I have not been able to clarify if by first time they meant first time ever or first time at that address!

Thanks for the help!
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James ********
Cindy Fonseca Chiang Mai is strict about TM30. They are open every day...7 days a week for TM30 reporting. I believe you can self file with passport and TM 30 form.. Others will reply in the morning,
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Cindy *********
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@James *******
 I was just going to update. I'm in Chiang Mai
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