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Can someone with a medical overstay in Thailand negotiate with immigration to cancel their fines?
Visa OverstayThailand ImmigrationMedical Emergency VisaThai Visa RulesPassportRussian Passport HoldersOverstay Fine
Nov 7, 2023
2 years ago
Tolina ***********
ORIGINAL POSTERHi all! I have this question: at the beginning of September, a young man got into a very unpleasant situation, where his passport was stolen. The guy himself was almost constantly in the hospital; he was recently given a new passport. At the moment he has a long overstay of 44 days. Please tell me, is it possible to somehow agree with the emigration service on canceling the overstay for medically valid reasons?
TLDR : Answer Summary
A young man is facing a 44-day visa overstay in Thailand after his passport was stolen while he was in the hospital. Many respondents suggest that it is unlikely he can negotiate with immigration to waive the overstay fine due to medical reasons after the fact. It is recommended that he immediately pay the 20,000 baht fine for the overstay and leave the country. Options for resolving the situation include obtaining a 7-day stamp to depart or leaving and re-entering Thailand to obtain a new 90-day visa stamp. Documentation from the hospital may help but will not guarantee a waiver of the fine.
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James ********
I believe that the OP has the possible answers to her question for her friend.
Thanks to All for your helpful replies...
Kudos to our friend
We wish her friend success 🤞
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Thanks to All for your helpful replies...
Kudos to our friend
@Robert ******
as you were SPOT ON with the options for her Russian friend. We wish her friend success 🤞
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Dave *********
“Almost constantly” in the hospital???
If he was out of hospital, even a day, why didn’t he go take care of his visa problem when he was out?
What exactly was he in the hospital for?
If he was out of hospital, even a day, why didn’t he go take care of his visa problem when he was out?
What exactly was he in the hospital for?
Tod *********
@Tolina **********
You need to tell your friend, to follow @Robert ******
sage advice and he'll get out and back without issue. So he needs to get the 20K baht overstay fine, exit thailand and re-enter. He pays the overstay fine when he stamps out of thailand either at the border or at the airport.
EDIT; the only in country solution he might have would be to show up at the immigration office where he stays, pay the 20K baht overstay fine, THEN apply for a 7 day get out of thailand stamp for 1900baht. That gives him a week to get out.
THEN he exits/re-enters and gets 90 days when he stamps back in (by air or land)
James ********
What is the passport nation of your friend? Is it Russia, like yours?
Tolina ***********
ORIGINAL POSTER@James *******
yes!James ********
@Tolina **********
Russians are NOW stamped in for 90 days on arrival into Thailand. Thai Immigration is NOT 🚫 likely to waive the OVERSTAY fine of 500 Thai baht per day. You say it's already 44 Days OVERSTAY...the fine is the maximum of 20,000 Thai baht.
Go to Thai Immigration office and pay the fine and ask for another extension of stay.
It will be DENIED but will be granted a 7 day to depart Thailand order.
Either do a BORDER BOUNCE...out and re-enter...get a NEW 90 day STAMP as a Russian passport holder.
OR
Fly to nearby country that will accept Russian passport holder. Fly back to Thailand and reenter Thailand with a New 90 day stamp as recently announced by the Thai government.
The OVERSTAY is a problem. BUT hopefully your friend will be able to solve the problem.
Do NOT 🚫 DELAY ...
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James ********
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Robert *******
The only way to solve this problem:
Buy an airline ticket out of Thailand, make your way into the airport, check in and pay 500 Thb a day with a maximum of 20.000 Thb overstay fines at passport control.
There is NO excuse to find which allows a person to go into overstay, there are over 80 Immigration Offices where a foreigner can report himself fo avoid the overstay. Hospitals do support with documentation and even staff to visit or contact Immigration in your name BEFORE a person get into overstay.
BE aware that getting caught will open another can of worms and that after 90 days of overstay, a blacklist period will be added to the fines
Buy an airline ticket out of Thailand, make your way into the airport, check in and pay 500 Thb a day with a maximum of 20.000 Thb overstay fines at passport control.
There is NO excuse to find which allows a person to go into overstay, there are over 80 Immigration Offices where a foreigner can report himself fo avoid the overstay. Hospitals do support with documentation and even staff to visit or contact Immigration in your name BEFORE a person get into overstay.
BE aware that getting caught will open another can of worms and that after 90 days of overstay, a blacklist period will be added to the fines
Lee ********
Get medical certificate. That's all you need
James ********
@Lee *******
it's too late... Once on OVERSTAY.Tod *********
@Lee *******
that is not correctSteve ********
@Lee *******
Unfortunately it's 44 days too late for that!Tolina ***********
ORIGINAL POSTER@Steve *******
late for what?James ********
@Tolina **********
what is your friends passport nation? Is it Russia ?Steve ********
@Tolina **********
An application for an extension must be filed before the previous extension or visa expires. If the person's visa expired 44 days ago it's too late to get the extension. He can try attending immigration, paying the 20,000 baht fine, produce the medical certificate and get either a medical extension, or possibly an order to leave the country within seven days. Only the immigration office can assist with thisTod *********
@Steve *******
that is too late, that ship sailedReply to
Tod *********
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James ********
@Steve *******
sadly, you are correct ✅Reply to
James ********
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Lloyd ********
The short answer is "no", medical extensions are applied for before needed, not after the event. Your friend needs to leave the country asap and have the 20,000 baht ready for the overstay fine.
Tolina ***********
ORIGINAL POSTERwhen he was in the hospital, I was at the migration service, they didn’t want to hear anything without having a passport, which was stolen🤷🏼♀️. And they gave me a new passport just the other day!!!
Steve ********
@Tolina **********
Did you produce a copy of the police report at immigration?Reply to
Steve ********
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Tolina ***********
ORIGINAL POSTER@Lloyd *******
I say again that he did not intend to get into trouble with the hospital, unforeseen circumstances! There's a good reason🤷🏼♀️Tod *********
@Tolina **********
reason or not he's done fooling with 'extensions' you get those BEFORE you run on overstay not 44 days after 😕Steve ********
@Tolina **********
The hospital could possibly have helped him apply for medical extension if he was in any way incapacitated. Most reputable hospitals have staff assigned to immigration issuesTolina ***********
ORIGINAL POSTER@Steve *******
his hospital was unable to do this (they only gave a certificate stating that he had arrived.Steve ********
Tod *********
@Steve *******
and while your advice is correct, in this situation it's a day late (actually 44 days late) and a dollar short.Steve ********
@Tolina **********
If you're a friend of his then you should have requested a medical certificate which you could have taken to immigration on his behalf. Immigration will give extensions on medical grounds if supported by a medical certificate outlining why a patient is unable to travelReply to
Steve ********
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