Can my wife apply for a Non-O visa as a dependent when I'm converting mine to a retirement visa in Thailand?

Jan 20, 2025
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Neil ********
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Help please. I've applied for a Non-O visa while in Australia with the plan to convert to a retirement visa with the banked money method. Does my wife apply for the same type visa then apply as a dependent to me in the Thai retirement visa application process? Many thanks in advance for clarification.
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The user seeks clarification on whether their wife can apply for the same Non-O visa and then as a dependent during the retirement visa application process in Thailand. Comments indicate that applying for a Direct-to-Thai Visa (DTV) in Australia could be a better option. Others suggest that the wife could alternatively apply for her own Non-O visa if she is over 50, but face issues as the spouse of the visa holder due to recent changes in visa regulations.
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Jim **********
Would the other alternative be for your wife to apply for her own non-O based on retirement (if over 50)rather than as spouse?

This would mean you both having the banked money, but would avoid any risks or complication?
Vin *********
@Jim *********
Other alternative? What is the first one? Or any others? (Besides the 65k/mn.)
Colin *********
@Vin ********
the other "alternative" is the one that Tod mentioned which might be rejected.
Neil ********
ORIGINAL POSTER
That's a lot of cash doing nothing in a bank though
Jim **********
@Neil *******
Yep...depends on your financial situation.
David ********
Better to apply for DTV in Australia they soft power. Then your wife applies as a partner. It's better option than non o ,it's 5 years for 10,000 bht other conditions but easy and only have to show 500,000 bht in your bank once
Neil ********
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@David *******
Thank you, we but would prefer stick to the retirement visa option at the moment though.
Tod *********
All you can do
@Neil *******
is you apply for the 90 day Non-O based on this reason
Neil ********
ORIGINAL POSTER
Thank you Tod, I read it as saying Thai person, now I see it as a Non Thai person on second reading. I will wait until mine is approved and then apply using the non Thai as you suggest, Much appreciated.
Tod *********
@Neil *******
it'll either work or it won't, I'd call the consulate you use based on where you live down there; Canberra or Sydney and ask them

I hate to see you out the 120 AUD if you apply and they reject it
Neil ********
ORIGINAL POSTER
Hi Tod, We are in WA so have to go through Canberra. I will give them a call tomorrow morning and double check. Thanks again
Tod *********
I don't think they'll let her application go thru, but that's the ONLY 'piggy back' visa option she has if you get a 90 day Non-O visa.

Remember if you apply for her visa and they reject it you're out the application fee, there are no refunds on the eVisa online system
Tod *********
and your wife would apply for the 90 day Non-O based on this reason AFTER you had yours issued using your visa as the non-thai person she's staying with
Tod *********
You wouldn't be converting anything 😮 You'd get the 90 day Non-O visa based on retirement in Oz before you come here, then you'd apply for a year "extension of stay" from that visa based on retirement at the immigration office for 1900baht

Sadly I don't think your wife is going to be able to get a Non-O visa from ANY thai consulate based on being the spouse of a foreigner on a Non-O visa 🙁 AND that visa isn't even available inside the country at the immigration office after she comes here either. It is not sold for that reason anymore.

Consulates the world over started discontinuing issuing that visa last year. At this time there is no way to get her the initial 90 day Non-O visa based on being married to a foreigner on a Non-O 90 day visa OR a from a year extension on a Non-O 🙁
Neil ********
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So the likely outcome is that we both apply for a Non-O in Aus and both apply for the extension of stay based on retirement so pay double each year in Thailand
Vin *********
@Neil *******
no. You are each paying proper. Neither of you is paying double.
Neil ********
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@Vin ********
as above, I mean paying 800k each as double
Colin *********
@Neil *******
you might already know, but I believe that you and your wife would need to have your funds in two separate bank accounts, not a joint account. I may be wrong & a Moderator would know better than me.
Tod *********
@Colin ********
some offices require separate accounts, while others will allow a joint account with double the single person requirement (so 1.6 mill for a married couple)
Stuart *********
@Neil *******
Regardless of whether you managed to get some form of piggyback visa or two separate visas/extensions you’d both be paying the same amount each year. All extensions are 1,900 baht.

What I believe you mean is that the financial requirement would be double. 800k for you and 800k for her.

You aren’t paying double but you do need to each have 800k. With a bit of jiggling you could time the extensions so that one gets theirs on X date and one gets theirs 3+ months later. You could save having to have the extra 400k in each account, but I suspect it would be a nightmare to administer.
Neil ********
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@Tod ********
I used the wrong term, not converting.
Lloyd ********
@Tod ********
So no more piggybacking ?
Tod *********
@Lloyd *******
not from a Non-O that I can see

I did see some people having their spouse get a 90 day ED visa, based on study, then get one extension on that (again based on study) and then after that change the reason for the extension to trailing spouse <- you can change the reason for an extension on a visa once you get at least ONE extension for the reason you got the visa
Lloyd ********
@Tod ********
Jeez, a right convoluted mess.Thanks.
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