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Can my husband and I apply for Non-O visas in Thailand while considering a TR visa from Australia?

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Nov 15, 2021
3 years ago
Athena *********
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My husband and I are currently in Australia, and looking to return to Hua Hin in Jan 2022. Previously we have purchased O-A visas in Australia (we are both over 50) but are wondering if purchasing an in-country O visa might now be a better option. If we each purchase a TR visa for 60 days in Australia, and my husband has 800,000 THB in a Thai account in his name only, can we apply for an O visa (from HH immigration) for him, based on being over 50, with me as a 'trailing spouse'? Thanks in advance.
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The post discusses the possibility of obtaining O-A or Non-O visas for a couple returning to Hua Hin from Australia. It mentions that while the husband holds 800,000 THB in a Thai bank account, only he can apply for a Non-O visa based on retirement, while his wife cannot apply as a trailing spouse from inside Thailand. Inputs from various commenters clarify that both should ideally apply for Non-O visas in Australia, as non-O visas based on trailing spouse status are typically not granted within Thailand. There are discussions about financial proofs required for visa applications, including the origin of funds and health insurance requirements.
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Sam ******
Interesting reading 🙂
3 years ago
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Walter *******
I will be going to CW this week and try it out (non-O with financials for me and "trailing spouse"). We came in on a visa exempt, but the process should be the same.
3 years ago
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Walter *******
As for the requirements, do you mean these ?
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@Walter ******
 That list is the Non-O visa based on retirement, which a person can acquire inside Thailand; a person can not acquire a Non-O Visa based on being a trailing spouse to a person who has a Non-O visa based on retirement inside Thailand.
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Tod *********
@Walter ******
 that's close to the one I got from them. No telling which one is really right or current though.

Again, good luck with it (y)
3 years ago
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Walter *******
I'm not disputing anything you have said
@Tod ********
. It is just that I want to hear the refusal from the horse's mouth. A few years ago we started with a non-OA from outsite TH, and got the "trailing wife" solution for our extensions .I think it is weird to make a distiction between having a non-O in or out of the country. At least, I don't see the rational. Luckely my wife already has the 800.000.
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 good luck with it, report back on how the 90 day Non-O based on being a trailing spouse works out.

Try to do it BEFORE you let them know she has the 800K in her account and can apply for the Non-O based on retirement on her own. 😉
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@Walter ******
 you aren't gonna get a 90 day non-O based on being a trailing spouse of someone who gets a non-O based on retirement issued inside the country from ANY imigration office.

It's not a reason to issue a Non-O visa.

Did you already GO to C/W immigration office and get the hand out listing the requirements for you to apply for the in country 90 day Non-O visa in section C-1?
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Tod *********
okay look at this 😮 Canberra answered back and you both can apply for 90 day Non-O visas
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Peter **********
thought you didnt need health insurance for a non -O visa?
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Tod *********
@Peter *********
 in theory you don't but when the country reopened consulates that were selling Non-O's (retirement & marriage) were making people get the
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Tod *********
This was what I asked them

เรื่อง: 90 day Single Entry Non-Immigrant Type O visa question

We were advised by the thai immigration office in Bangkok for my wife and I to purchase 90 day Non-Immigrant Type O visas (NOT type O-A) as I am over 50 and she is my wife. The immigration office said that I would apply for the yearly extension after arriving here, meeting the financial requirements and my wife would apply for the “trailing spouse” extension.

They said the trailing spouse Non-O visa type is NOT available inside thailand and we should both get 90 day Non-O’s before we come

We are Australian citizens can we apply at the Canberra consulate for a 90 day single entry Non-O, me based on retirement and my wife based on trailing spouse?

Thank you

Tod Daniels
3 years ago
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Athena *********
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Tod Daniels, thankyou for following up with this. I will contact the Embassy in Canberra tomorrow. Interesting that they are still quoting 400k/40k health insurance (which I didn't think was needed for Non Imm O).
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@Athena ********
 i know that's why I think something is not right, BUT I tried to outline it as clearly as I could
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, I checked Royal Thai Embassy's pages in several countries, now every site says insurance is one of the required documents.
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Maria *************
@Tod ********
 the new evisa system, its new with insurance for NON-O retirement visa.

400,000 in 40,000 out

Same same for Swedes applying by evisa from Sweden
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Tod *********
but something isn't right about that price, but at least they will answer emails
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, seems like that is exactly what they want as a fee

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@Ellie ******
 ahh, I didn't look at the pricing, just figured AUD against the baht and thought it was high

Thanx, (y)
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Ellie *******
Seems like there is a way to apply Non-O single (90days) for a spouse to Non-OA holder in Australia. (but not for a spouse to Non-O single)

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Tod *********
While it's less than an ideal situation
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 brings up a great point that only ONE of you would need to get the O-A visa (mandatory insurance etc) and the other could get a 90 day Non-O

It's better than you BOTH getting O-A's
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Tod *********
Apologies to everyone I did not know that no consulate in Australia would issue a 90 day single entry Non-O visa based on retirement (or trailing spouse). FWIW; I did email the canberra consulate asking but when I looked at their site there was no option for it..
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Nongnuch ********
for retirement purpose, you can only get Non-O/A visa or Non-O/X visa in Australia. However you should ask Immigration if you can get a Non-O visa in country in Thailand by a conversion from a TR visa to a Non-O. Both of you would need the financial proof, i.e. each one of you needs the 800,000.-THB on a bank account solely on his/her name. As Tod Daniels explained, there is no trailing spouse option when applying for an in-country conversion from TR to Non-O, the "trailing spouse" process has to be started in the home country of the applicant
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Owen *******
It may not be a problem, but (for Non-O in country) as the husband already has 800,000 THB in a Thai account, you will need to prove it was deposited from an overseas source. I'm not sure if there are any implications if you've already used this account previously for approval of an A-O visa.
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Benjamin ******
@Owen ******
 >you will need to prove it was deposited from an overseas source

The bank keeps records, and will show where the money came from.
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@Benjamin *****
 Of course they do, as I said, it may not be a problem. But better to be aware than to assume this is the case as we don't know how the account was funded. Also it is possible you will need to apply and wait for the bank to provide the proof.
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I don't think Australia has 90 day o visas based on retirement.
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Tod *********
You BOTH could get 90 day Non-O visas in your country before you come and then he could apply for the extension based on 'retirement' (and meeting the proof of funds here) and you could apply for the extension based on being his spouse
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Athena *********
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Tod Daniels, we can't get a 90 day Non-O in Australia.
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Bobby ********
Tod Daniels. Non-O not available in Australia
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Tod *********
nope, that won't work for you (the trailing spouse 😮 )

No immigration office in the country will issue a 90 day non-O visa based on being the spouse of someone on a "retirement visa".

You need to get a 90 day Non-O before you come here if you're going to be on a 'trailing spouse' extension
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