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Can I apply for a Non O visa as a dependent while my wife holds a Non O-A retirement visa?

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Jun 13, 2022

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My wife is getting a Non O-A retirement visa and I’ll be tagging on to it as a dependent on a Non O visa as I’m not 50. 

I’m told by someone who recently tried, that many embassies outside of Thailand no longer issue the Non O visa, which he recently tried in person at Malaysia, Cambodia, Singapore, Vietnam and I think possibly Laos.

Has anyone recently managed to get a Non O in any other countries apart from country of residence, and the Non O used as a dependent visa tagging into their partner’s retirement Non O-A. 

I understand that by doing both Non O-A and Non O visas in country of residence, in our case the UK, then no need to have the 800k & 400k funds in a Thai bank. Thanks.

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The inquiry discusses the process of obtaining a Non O visa as a dependent while the spouse is applying for a Non O-A retirement visa. The poster expresses concerns about reports of multiple embassies no longer issuing Non O visas, particularly in Malaysia, Cambodia, Singapore, Vietnam, and Laos, based on recent experiences. Community responses clarify that while there might be challenges, it's still possible to acquire a Non O visa in countries like Cambodia. Furthermore, it's emphasized that eligibility may depend on the individual situation, particularly the residency status of the spouse applying for the Non O-A visa.

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Robert *******

Time to close it down. You can be dependent on a person with a long stay in Thailand, but that must be a long stay that is already permitted and not she might apply in the future for a visa and after that she might visit Thailand to stay there.

It seems to me that the visa application is denied based on the fact that there is no residency for the Non Immigrant O-A visa and a simple she wil apply for this visa using the on-line system soon is not enough.

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Tod *********

There is a HUGE difference between showing up at a consulate when one spouse already HAS their 90 day Non-O and the year extension based on retirement and applying for a 90 day non-O based on trailing spouse, versus trying to pull a Non-O trailing spouse visa when the person with the other 90 day Non-O based on retirement hasn't even ENTERED thailand yet or gotten the year extension.

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John **********

Can also get in Cambodia

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@John *********

We've just been to Cambodia (Phnom Penh) and Malaysia (KL), they no longer issue Non O Dependant for anything but Non B visas. We applied at both, denied at both and advised the same about Non B. Nothing to do with having initial 90 days or 1 year extension on main visa.

I spoke to Consular officer at Phnom Penh (not the people at the windows), she confirmed they did issue it previously but now cannot.

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Robert *******

The Non Immigrant O visa, the O stand for Other and means there are many different reasons to apply for this visa. You can apply for it at mentioned Thai Embassies but you have to meet the requirements set for the purpose of application.

I have no idea why your application is refused in 4 countries and possible in Laos?

For the Non Immigrant O-A visa (Long Stay), you need to be resident in that country, but residency is not needed for the Non Immigrant O visa based on being dependent of a foreigner with a long stay in Thailand.

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Thai Embassy in Singapore:

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ORIGINAL POSTER

thanks. I’m told she needs to apply for her Non O-A first, then I apply for my Non O as need to include her visa to my application, and this is now all done online at the Thai embassy in the UK as no longer face to face appointments, so in theory no need to go to the UK as we don’t live there, unless it’s necessary for the medical and criminal record check..

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You need to meet the requirements to use the on-line application site and you need to upload several documents to meet requirements of the visa which you apply for.

I'm not going to advice you to follow the rules, how you want to do it is totally your own choice and decision, Good luck.

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do you know if the single entry gets extended to 1 year like the Non O-A? thanks

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@Christopher ******

If you apply for the Extension of Stay you will get 1 year or the same admitted until/permitted up to date stamped in the passport of the person you depend on. which ever date comes fist.

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thanks, so it sounds easier to get both Non O-A and Non O in place of residence then when we enter we get 1 year and no need to deposit funds in Thai bank

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@Christopher ******

NO, it is easier to apply for both different types of visa at the same place. BUT the person with the Non Immigrant O-A (Long Stay) Visa will get maximum 1 year of stay on entry into Thailand (depending on expiry date health insurance)

The other person with the Non Immigrant O visa as dependent will get 90 days of stay on entry, but can apply after 60 days for an Extension of Stay to match the period of stay from the Non Immigrant O-A (Long Stay) visa holder.

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Thai Embassy Ho Chi Minh Vietnam:

- In the case where the accompanying spouse is not eligible to apply for the Category ‘O-A’ (Long Stay) visa, he or she will be considered for temporary stay under Category ‘O’ visa. A marriage certificate must be provided as evidence and should be notarised by notary organs or by the applicant’s diplomatic or consular mission.

But I always understand about friends.

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this happened to a friend recently, the Non O for dependent use, is no longer issued in those countries

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you sure it didn't happen because the dependent didn't have the year long extension already? AND they were trying to pull both non-O visas at the same time?

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I’m assuming I can get my Non O dependent at the same time as wife getting her Non O-A before we both enter Thailand?

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that you CAN indeed do

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