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Can my daughter and grandson accompany us on a retirement visa if we retire in Thailand?
Non-O Retirement VisaLTR VisaVisa Options for Family MembersImmigration Rules ThailandDependent VisasRetirement in Thailand
Mar 17, 2025
a year ago
Joan ********
ORIGINAL POSTERHi, my husband and I plan to retire to Bangkok in July 2025. We are currently retired and have combined monthly income of over 300,000 baht. Moving with us are our 32 year old daughter and grandson who will turn 4 in July. Is te 65,000 baht per person and can our daughter and grandson go on the same visa as us?
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The post discusses a couple planning to retire in Bangkok and inquires about visa options for themselves, their daughter, and grandson. Key points include the necessity for the daughter to obtain her own visa, such as a DTV or possibly an LTR visa, while the couple may consider applying for Non-O retirement visas. It's noted that the daughter cannot be included as a dependent on the parents' visas since she is over the age limit, and the grandson may require a student visa. The discussion also highlights the importance of demonstrating financial stability to qualify for the various visa types.
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Steve *********
No, she will need another visa. I assume she will be working in Thailand.
Joan ********
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Sean *******
Non o retirement for you
Non e for the grandson (school)
Daughter attaches to the grandsons non e
Non e for the grandson (school)
Daughter attaches to the grandsons non e
Frankie *****
Find an agent as your case is way too complex
Lili ********
@Frankie ****
I already have DTV n am arriving in a week. I have retired.Reply to
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Lili ********
Which one is better DTV or LTR if I have pension? I can work remotely with DTV but no work permit.
Graeme ******
@Lili *******
you need to show 80k US dollars passive income (there are other ways if you read the LTR requirements) to be eligible to apply for an LTR the DTV is much simplerReply to
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Robert ********
LTR all the way.
You need one person who can prove
Passive income can be dividends or pensions.
Google LTR agencies and choose. They charge 50-80k THB on top of the government fees and all react quite fast. (Im just starting LTR myself)
You need one person who can prove
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USD passive income per year to bring everybody else in. Passive income can be dividends or pensions.
Google LTR agencies and choose. They charge 50-80k THB on top of the government fees and all react quite fast. (Im just starting LTR myself)
Deborah *******
Your daughter and grandson can go on LTR visa with you. Its a 10 year visa with multiple entry status and work permit if you want one
John **********
@Deborah ******
they can notReply to
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Graeme ******
I would suggest you look into non o retirement visas for you and your husband applying in your own country before you arrive. You then need to open a bank account each and deposit 800k baht in each one to allow you to apply for an extension each while in thailand. For your daughter since she will need her own visa, she may want to look into a dtv using a soft power i.e. learn maui thai or an approved cooking course this would give her 5 years so time to look at further options, her child could be linked to her dtv.
Calvin ******
@Graeme *****
great advice.Reply to
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Janet *********
You should travel to Thailand and explore your options.
Roy ***********
@Janet ********
they are doing that in the opposite order: exploring their options, then traveling to Thailand. A perfectly sensible sequence.Reply to
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Brandon ************
It looks like you're from the US, so you're not eligible to use income for a retirement visa. You can only use income if your embassy in Thailand will certify your income and the US embassy doesn't do that.
You'll need 800,000 baht in a Thai bank account in your name only in order to apply for the first 1-year extension of a non-O retirement visa. You'll likely both need that as I don't believe any of the Thai embassies in the US will sell a trailing spouse non-O visa. So you would both need to qualify on your own.
Your daughter cannot use the same visa as you. She also needs to qualify for her own visa as dependents can only be included until the age of 20.
With your income, it's possible you qualify for an LTR visa which is one of the best visas available.
You'll need 800,000 baht in a Thai bank account in your name only in order to apply for the first 1-year extension of a non-O retirement visa. You'll likely both need that as I don't believe any of the Thai embassies in the US will sell a trailing spouse non-O visa. So you would both need to qualify on your own.
Your daughter cannot use the same visa as you. She also needs to qualify for her own visa as dependents can only be included until the age of 20.
With your income, it's possible you qualify for an LTR visa which is one of the best visas available.
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Liam ***********
@Brandon ***********
hi ,I am planning to retire to Thailand end of this year,I have a Irish passport and they will certify my pension income which is above the 65 k per month specified,does this mean in your opinion that I do not need to put 800k into a Thai bank?thanks in advanceLiam ***********
@Brandon ***********
thanks mateBrandon ************
@Liam **********
If you can get income verification you don't need the money in the bankReply to
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Janin ******
@Brandon ***********
, if you are married you can depend on your husbands visa, so you only need one time 800.000 baht in the bankDeborah *******
@Janin *****
on LTR visa i didnt need 1 cent in a bankNongnuch ********
@Deborah ******
no, but you needed proof of 80,000 US Dollar yearly incomeReply to
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Brandon ************
@Janin *****
easier said than done. Embassies no longer sell the non-O trailing spouse visa that is required to do that. It's only possible to get that if you apply for a non-OA visa for the primary visa holder and the non-O for the other one. But they can't both do non-O anymore.Reply to
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Wallace ******
@Brandon ***********
passive income only…Brandon ************
@Wallace *****
They didn't indicate what type of income they have, so they might qualify. That's why I gave the link so they can do the researchReply to
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Bill ********
@Brandon ***********
To use monthly income you have to 65,000 baht deposited in thai bank account every month. Doesn't matter what country you're from.Todd **********
@Bill *******
Exactly and thank you! And on marriage visa it’s half that being deposited and 400,000 bahtRoberto *********
@Bill *******
Most countries still operate the income affidavit which means you don't need to transfer the 65k into a Thai bank account, although as @Brandon ***********
states, the US is not one of themBill ********
@Roberto ********
What you mean is the US Embassy in Bangkok will not give a proof of income affidavit. But as a US citizen you can still use monthly income of 65,000 baht a month for retirement visa. You show your bank book with a monthly deposit of 65,000 baht for 12 consecutive months. But he did not state that, his statement is wrong.Nongnuch ********
@Bill *******
not in the first year. First, you need to collect 12 months of transfers of a minimum of 65,000 THB, month for month. So in the first year, each of them needs 800,000 THB in their Thai bank accountRoberto *********
@Bill *******
I was saying that most countries you can still use the income affidavit method, which means 65k does not have to be transferred into a Thai bank account. To my knowledge only US, UK and Australia can't use this methodReply to
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Brandon ************
@Bill *******
that won't help them to get started. As I stated in my answer, they can ONLY use 800,000 in the bank for the FIRST 1-year extensionBill ********
@Brandon ***********
What you stated was they are American and cannot use monthly income for visa which is an incorrect statement. Also, they can get their retirement visa online while still in America.Kool *******
@Bill *******
they can get the initial 90 day type O visa in the US by using the monthly income method, but, they can only get the one year extension inside Thailand, and as Americans can not use the monthly income method because they would need the income guarantee notarized document from the American embassy, and the American embassy no longer issues that document. As such for the first one year extension they must have at least bt800,000+ in a bank account, and being that both are over 50 years old Thailand won't issue trailing spouse visa extension anymore.Bill ********
@Kool ******
ok as a retired American living in Thailand I'll just keep on getting my retired visa by showing my bank book with monthly deposits of 65,000 baht per monthKool *******
@Bill *******
that works great after the first year's extension, but you can not do that anymore for the very first one year extension. You do understand that right?Bill ********
@Kool ******
I'm going on 3 years here and several of my friends have been here even longer and we are all doing it but if you say so go on with your bad selfNongnuch ********
@Bill *******
what do you not understand? An American citizen cannot use the monthly income method for the application to the first 1-year Extension of Stay Permit. Period. You can start to use the income method as soon as you have collected a 12-months bank history statement of money transfers coming in from abroad.Kool *******
@Bill *******
you aren't comprehending the "very first year" part of what I said. I've been doing this for 14 years, and using the income method for the last seven years.Graeme ******
@Bill *******
as @Brandon ***********
has said you need 800k baht for the first extension, for the 2nd extension you can use monthly income as long as it has been in the account for a full 12 months. The non o visa they get online in the USA is for 90 days only, the first extension on this visa requires the money in a thai bank accountReply to
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Marianne ********
@Bill *******
But they can't start off with that if they can't give documentation of 12 consecutive months of transfers into Thai accounts in their names.Bill ********
@Marianne *******
Yhey can get their retirement Visa online while still in AmericaReply to
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Kim **********
@Bill *******
or do an investmentReply to
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Graham ******
Your daughter will need her own Visa
Deborah *******
@Graham *****
the LTR visa allows 4 dependents of any ageJohn **********
@Deborah ******
currently it allows spouse and children only to a maximum of 4. There's a proposal to lift the cap of 4 but I'm not aware of any plans to change the definition of children which means the child must be under 20 and a grandchild wouldn't count. The daughter and her child will need their own visasChang ******
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You and your husband can rent house for about 400 a month at country side
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You and your husband can rent house for about 400 a month at country side
Japan is beautiful 😍 good water and no pollution on air very clear and city is very clean 👌
Chang ******
@John *********
your answers make more senseReply to
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