Can I convert my Tourist Visa to a Non-O Marriage Visa in Thailand?

Why would Fb be more accurate than an IO at your local office

Generally you can trust what you are told by immigration and given you have a Thai wife there is no language barrier to del with

So...where are all the people who have been telling me on these forums that it is possible to get a Non-O 90 in Thailand? Where are they???

People are assuming the marriage was solemnized in the USA.. but the OA does not give any information to suggest that is the case.. if married in Thailand then the marriage should already be registered with the Amphur.. and the OA should already possess a Kor Ror 2 to certify this.. if it was an overseas marriage then a copy of the marriage certificate will need to be authenticated (certified) by the Embassy (or Consulate) of the country where the marriage took place.. which will often be domiciled in Bangkok.. and a translated copy (into Thai) will also be needed for certification by the MoFA in Thailand.. once this has been done then this documentation can be presented to the local Amphur to register the marriage.. and they will issue a KR22 (rather than a KR2) certificate to confirm this.. which is needed to support a non-o married visa application at an immigration office in Thailand.. whether it be the initial 90-day non-o application or the extension of stay that follows it.. given the time horizons involved it is advisable to engage an agent to attend to the translation and MoFA certification.. since it could take them 2-3 weeks to get this done and will probably take longer if you are trying to do it yourself.. the OA should factor this into their calculations 👍

Yes

Yes

There can be a number of reasons you can't convert. Your immigration office isn't allowed to issue a 90 day Non-O visa. You don't have money in a Thai bank. You don't have enough time on your entry stamp to do the conversion. In all cases the solution is to travel to a nearby country and apply for the 90 day Non-O visa there

Jim Jolley . . Let’s sort your wrong wording first.

“what all they want to file for The Retirement Visa Married to a Thai”

There is nothing such as a “Retirement Visa Married to a Thai”

***you either apply for the 90-days Non-Imm-O Family Visa (that’s the one which is based on marriage to a Thai wife)

Or

You apply for the 90-days Non-Imm-O over 50/Retirement Visa (which is the one based on being retired/ over 50 of age

*** “I was Told I couldnt Convert my Tourist Visa, id have to do a Border Run and and get a 90 Day Non -O, Then come back and have The 90 day Non-O Converted into the 1 Year Non-O Marriage”

*** there is no “1-Year Non-O Marriage”. The 90-days Non-O family visa becomes invalid when you enter Thailand on it. You are then in Thailand on a stay permit, and only this stay permit (based on being married to a Thai wife) can get extended for 1 year on Immigration for a 1900 THB fee.

*** you apply for the 90-days Non-Imm-O Family Visa outside of Thailand. You enter on this visa and get stamped in for a 90-days stay permit. The Non-O visa will become invalid or “used” upon entry!

*** you need a minimum of 400,000 THB (it can be on your U.S. or Thai bank account) in order to apply for the initial visa (!)

For the application to the “extension of the stay permit” , you need:

*** a minimum of 400,000 THB in your THAI bank account in your sole name, for a minimum of TWO months, confirmed with a bank letter statement, in order to apply for the “1-year Extension of Temporary Stay Permit based on being Married to a Thai Wife”

You can apply for the “1-year Extension of Stay Permit” up from 30 days before your 90-days stay permit expires.

*** You also should be AWARE that you cannot use your original U.S. marriage documents for the application to the 1-year Extension.

For this application, Immigration only acknowledges a freshly printed marriage registry document, called “Kor Ror 22”

This means that your marriage must be acknowledged and registered inside Thailand before you can apply for the “1-year Extension of Stay Based on marriage”

I had to do exactly what they told you. I went to Laos. It was easy.

Unfortunately, you should have gotten your 90 day non-O from the evisa website before you entered Thailand.

Normally it's possible if you already have a Thai bank account. But some immigration offices don't do conversations to non-O.