What is the process to convert a Tourist Visa to a Non-O Retirement Visa in Thailand?

Aug 25, 2022
2 years ago
Doug ******
ORIGINAL POSTER
A very common question in this group is about what is the easiest process to get a retirement Visa. I just went through the process of converting from a Tourist Visa to a Non-O Visa based on retirement in Chiang Mai. You have to complete 2 sets of documents in blue ink as follows:

= TM 86 form since I entered on a Tourist Visa. You would complete the TM 87 form if you entered on Visa Exempt.

= Copy of passport including information, visa stamps and entry.

= Copy of TM 6 (if you have one) and TM 30 (showing residence)

= Photographs that are pasted to the TM 86 forms

= Bank certificate letter showing your account and balance (800,000+ Baht). Can be issued up to 7 days before you apply. Bangkok Bank charged 100 Baht for the letter.

= Copy of bank book showing 800,000+ balance. The bank book has to be updated on the day of your Visa application. NOTE: The balance in your bank book must match the Bank letter. This messed me up since I had a transaction on my account that lowered the current balance by 1000 Baht. The nice lady at immigration explained the problem and told me to go deposit 1000 Baht, update the bank book and come back with updated copies. They kept my documents and waited for me to come back. There was a long line at the bank but quickly figured out depositing cash at one machine and then updating my bank book in another so I didnโ€™t have to wait in line. I then needed updated copies which you can get behind the immigration building.

= Completed acknowledgement form of penalties for visa overstay

= Copy of my Tourist eVisa that was issued in the US. That wasnโ€™t on the list of requirements. Luckily I had a copy with me.

= 2000 Baht application fee

NOTE that Chiang Mai requires 15 WORKING DAYS to process the Visa. They accepted my documents on 27 July and told me to come back on 22 August. That was 18 week days because of the holidays during that period. You need to make sure you take holidays into account. Also, you can only apply when you have 30 days or less left on your permitted to stay period so the window is short. In my case I applied shortly after I did the 30 day extension of my Tourist Visa.

My paperwork was apparently processed on 11 August as you can see from the Visa stamp. 11 Aug was the start date vice when they stamped it into my passport on 22 Aug. My Non-O is good till 8 Nov. Iโ€™ll need to apply for my one year extension at least 15 working days before that date.

Also included is a picture of the instructions posted on the wall at Chiang Mai Immigration.
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TLDR : Answer Summary
This post outlines the steps required to convert a Tourist Visa to a Non-O retirement Visa in Chiang Mai, Thailand, including necessary documents such as forms TM 86 and TM 30, proof of funds, and specific application procedures tailored for Chiang Mai. It also includes advice from community members regarding requirements, processing time, and tips to avoid issues with documentation.
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Tod *********
This thread is ALL over the place, THANX to the O/P for posting. Thanx to one and all for putting in your two satang's worth too ๐Ÿ™‚

We are DONE
Sonja *****
I dont have that deposit money but I have good income. So they told me to bring a paper from my german embassy showing that I have income. But my company is located in the US. Do I need a paper from the US embassy then instead of the german? thx a lot
Tod *********
@Sonja ****
you are a german national so if you're going to get the affidavit of income you get it from the german embassy here
Jeff *****
Thanks for sharing!!
Jeff *******
When I went thru a similar process 8 and 10 months ago at CM Immigration, they had one additional requirement. They wanted a copy of every page in my bank book. I had only made a copy of the last page. I had to go out and make copies of every page going back to 2015. Fortunately, CM does not require proof that the funds were from abroad or I might not have qualified. I topped up my 800k with cash, withdrawn at ATM's from my US account.

The only other requirement is that every page you submit must be signed in blue ink.
Tod *********
@Jeff ******
Good to know that Chiang Mai doesn't require proof of funds origin for 90 day Non-O based on retirement.

Bangkok doesn't require it on Non-O's based on marriage or raising thai children, but they do for being over 50 (retirement)
Tod *********
@Jeff ******
all offices have the blue ink only rule (been like that for YEARS)

it's even written on the paper that says what you need ๐Ÿ˜› and by application they mean EVERYTHING related to it that requires filling in or signatures is done in blue
Angela ************
@Doug *****
did you have to show proof that the 800,000 baht in your bank was transferred from overseas?
Ludwig ***********
@Angela ***********
Chiang Mai immigration does not require funds to be originating from abroad for this purpose.
Angela ************
@Ludwig **********
I wonder why it differs?๐Ÿค”
Ludwig ***********
@Angela ***********
Every immigration office has its specific requirements. Whenever a new boss takes over an immigration office, he/she will implement a few small changes to leave his/her mark. Hence changing requirements in each office over the years.
Tod *********
as a rule that is coded into the transaction on the bank book

BUT I noticed the requirements posted on the wall he took a photo of don't show the funds must originate from abroad like the sheet they give you in Bangkok does
Angela ************
Alexandr *****
What if TM6 form was lost?
Tod *********
@Alexandr ****
if you got a TM6 when you entered but you lost it you still need it for extensions so you go to the police station get a police report saying you lost it and then go to the immigration office and they'll give you a new one.

AFAIK: the only people who don't require a copy of their TM6 are people who entered after the program was suspended
Tod *********
You have your wires crossed on some bits

Just so you're clear
@Doug *****
you can apply for your year extension when you have 45 days or less left on your current stamp <-

That 15 working days before is ONLY for getting the initial 90 day Non-O visa (we tell people you need a minimum of 21 days left on your current entry stamp as it makes it easier ๐Ÿ˜› )

So in your case IF you have the funds seasoned the 2 months that are required when you apply the earliest you can apply for the year extension on a Non-O visa expiring Nov 8th is any time after Sept 24th. ๐Ÿ™‚

That is almost total b/s that they require the bank letter and the bank book update to match. ๐Ÿ˜ก๐Ÿ‘Ž๐Ÿ‘Ž

There isn't ANY office I know that does that, the wording is BOTH balances have to be over 800K baht on the day you apply.
Doug ******
ORIGINAL POSTER
@Tod ********
They would not process my Visa unless the balances matched. She sent me to the bank and said they would wait.
Ludwig ***********
@Tod ********
I had the same problem at Chiang Mai immigration last year, they insisted that the bank book balance and the letter amount do match.
Tod *********
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