Will past COVID visa extensions affect my re-entry into Thailand after a short trip to Malaysia?

Mar 24, 2023
2 years ago
Jasper ******
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Just read that having covid extensions in your passport can place you under more scrutiny at immigration. I had covid extensions from February to early August 2020. Then left the country until end of January 2023, when I arrived at Bangkok airport and got a 45 day visa waiver. I extended that for 30 days.

When it expires next month, my plan is to fly to Malaysia and then fly back to Phuket the next day and apply for a 30 day visa waiver.

I'd appreciate any feedback about the likely success of the venture.
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The discussion revolves around the concern of an individual regarding their past COVID-related visa extensions and how it may influence their re-entry into Thailand after a short trip to Malaysia. While some community members express worry about potential scrutiny from immigration officers due to the history of extensions, others believe that the individual will likely not encounter significant issues given their long absence from the country and the context of COVID restrictions during that time. Suggestions are made on how to manage the re-entry process effectively, including considering alternative routes into Thailand that may raise fewer flags with immigration.
Paul *******
If you must re enter the country so shortly after leaving on a visa waiver a better option is to take a domestic flight to Udon Thani or Khon Kaen or Chiang Rai, then cross the border to Laos and come back.

Avoid flying back in
Paul *******
@Ananda *****
No, flying would. The authorities will know exactly what you're doing if flying to Malaysia for just one night. Whereas the Lao border crossings are relatively easygoing and carefree.
Jasper ******
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@Paul ******
wouldn't crossing a land border into Thailand raise a red flag?
Paul *******
Sorry I got carried away reading about the Covid extensions fear mongering and then noticed you actually entered the country trouble-free in January, extended your stay but now you want to return after a one night stay in Malaysia.

I think you'll be OK but it would be better to spend more time away from Thailand than do what you're planning.
Jasper ******
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@Paul ******
Cheers Paul!
Paul *******
You left in August 2020, when there were minimal flights and plenty of restrictions entering other countries. The Thai government's overreaction to Covid, imposing the world's strictest mask mandate, some of the strictest quarantines and other internal restrictions isn't something that we could have known about in advance.

You left only when you could, so I can't see how you would be punished now. It makes no sense to me.

99% sure you'll get in without an issue provided you don't have any undisclosed immigration history such as a history of overstays.
Jo **********
i had 6 covid extensions entered 8 times visa exempt without any questions everyone here is fear mongering. if you are not gaming the system and not living in Thailand you will not have a problem
Alistair **********
You had a very long break, I doubt you'll get much bother if any. Have the three requirements and you should be fine. I've flown in and out many times with covid extensions and a much dodgier entry history and it took a while before they started asking questions. I'd give you 1-2 more times doing this before you encounter proper issues
Paul *******
Tom *********
You will be fine.
Gordon ************
I admire your attitude 🙏🙏🙏
Stuart *********
You are highly likely to be pulled aside and questioned or even denied entry because of your history. Pay a company for expedited VIP entry. It may cost you 4K or so but way better than the 20k they may try to extort if you don’t.
Paul *******
@Ananda *****
You've missed the point entirely. It's got nothing to do with different ways of thinking.

You managed to enter the country in January after having been in Thailand during Covid. The issue isn't a Covid extension, which didn't exist yet when you left the country. You got an automatic extension.

The point is that you may be denied because you've already been in the country for 75 days on a visa waiver plus extension. If you come back the day after having left, it will look suspicious. What's wrong with checking out Malaysia for 2 weeks? You're a tourist, so don't tell me you don't have time or you must return to Thailand the next day. You don't. You're just trying to see how long you can live in the country on a tourist visa exemption.

My point about Covid extensions (again, you never received one as you left before they came into force on November 1, 2020) is that at the beginning anyway and in some cases until as late as mid 2022, it was impossible for many people to return to their home countries. You can't be punished for being denied exit or entry into your country due to lack of flights, flights costing 10 times more than usual etc. Covid was a unique situation and if an extension was legitimately granted by immigration, they can't come back and hold that against you later.

That would be like randomly denying a foreigner entry because the IO believes they've spent too much time in the country, despite living in Thailand on a legitimate retirement or marriage or work visa. OK, perhaps that could happen, I wouldn't be surprised if it has, especially if an IO is having a bad day, the foreigner is rude and acts entitled or the IO makes some sort of mistake. Unless we become citizens, we have no automatic right of entry no matter our residency status. Even permanent residency holders don't have the kind of rights a PR holder in any western country has.
Paul *******
I don't see any problem with Chris' post. BTW did he get banned from the group? Suddenly I can't see him here anymore.
Paul *******
@Stuart ********
Are you kidding me? It's the Thai governments fault for overreacting to a mild flu by shutting the borders and suspending flights. Many people wanted to leave Thailand in March 2020 but couldn't, until at least mid year.

This person only remained in country until August 2020, not 2022.

Why would they have trouble?
Jasper ******
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@Paul ******
My feeling is that Thai immigration feels justified in expecting people who 'stayed for free' during covid to pay for their tourist visas. The problem seems to be people with covid extensions showing up without a visa and expecting a free visa waiver.

Thais don't think like Westerners. In visiting and living in their country it's up to us to accept their way of doing things, even if we don't agree with it.
Chris ************
@Stuart ********
I don't agree. He had a long break between. You spread panic.
Paul *******
@Chris ***********
You're right. The issue here could be coming straight back to Thailand after one night out, following a 45 day visa waiver and 30 day extension.

I don't see where the Covid extension (automatic extension that applied at the time, not the paid one) would have any effect whatsoever.

Besides, the OP clearly successfully entered the country in January 2023. I got carried away by Stuart's fear mongering ignoring the fact she successfully entered Thailand in January 2023.

What should be avoided is spending up all your time on a visa waiver, getting an extension and THEN coming back after just one day absence to do it all over again.

Most legitimate tourists don't do that and hence immigration might ask questions.
Chris ************
@Paul ******
i don't know, why you think, that you so often need to try to explain me something, i didn't even ask you.

i live at thailand 17 years, speak thai and am deeply involved into tourist business with closed contacts to the mfa and a lot of experience with the borders.

For me, it looks like you are bathing in the arrogance of someone who thinks he always knows it better.

Searching for attention because he didnt have it in his life.

what impressing expert you are...

Your next answer now will be so smart, you will think.

Be aware that you will be blocked after.
Jasper ******
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@Chris ***********
You don't appear to have learned Thai diplomacy. That plus the general manner of your reply suggests you're just self projecting.
Chris ************
@Ananda *****
you are the attacking troll just now - and it's not even your business.. better watch your own manners

you didn't check the history of james' behaviour before.

last point, westerners can not be treated with thai style, as you see at your own example.

thais would not even had critisized me.
Jasper ******
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@Chris ***********
Oh dear. I'm the OP and the feed was very constructive until you threw your toys out of the pram.
Chris ************
@Ananda *****
i was constructively commenting that you will not have a problem to enter thailand.

until Paul James needed to start to teach.

you are even not grateful "my dear".

Don't bite the hand that feeds...
Stuart *********
@Chris ***********
Not trying to spread panic just saying about what I see on the forums. Covid extensions are toxic. They may get away with no issues. They may not.
Todd *********
@Stuart ********
am I reading this wrong? His Covid stamps are from 2020 only. Then out of the country for 2.5 years. And returned 2 months ago. How would this history be an issue?
Jared **********
i had 2 covid extentions last year (although one i used
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days) and one the year prior and i recently did a 3 week trip to PH and came back visa exempt (entered in Nov on TR) and had no issues, but any given sunday around here.

The large gap in his hopefully is in his favor.
Stuart *********
@Todd ********
I can only tell you from what I see on the forums here about the attitude the immigration officers hold over previous covid extensions. Whether that’s justified with a long gap is not for me to judge.
Todd *********
@Stuart ********
Interesting. I do think people tend to panic in the face of any questioning by immigration. And people seem to have forgotten that the Covid stamps are ALL perfectly legit stamps. This case is a person coming back as a tourist and should have zero issues whatsoever. But, in deference to your experience here, would be interesting to hear what actually does occur in this case.
Stuart *********
@Todd ********
that’s generally not how things work here. If you have Covid extensions the red flag is raised. If you have any form of Ed visa the red flag is raised. No one can predict how the actual immigration officer you hand your passport to will react but just saying that going on reports in the forums here that they may well have issues.

I personally know someone who was charged 20k to get back in because of covid extensions.
Stuart *********
@Todd ********
I would love to hear that their experience would be zero issues given that the time they had the covid extensions was way long ago. Just not sure that it will go that way.
Jasper ******
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@Stuart ********
it's starting to get complicated. Would you recommend that I apply for a 60 day tourist visa?
Mark ******
@Ananda *****
with a 60 day tourist visa, you could extend to a further 30 days
Jasper ******
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@Mark *****
thanks Mark. I'm concerned whether I'll be pulled aside when re-entering Thailand, even with a tourist visa, given my past covid extensions.
Mark ******
@Ananda *****
well, you had the covid extensions, then waiver, then extension......could trigger off a few bells. Imo, a tourist visa is the best way forward, then its up to the immi officer. Good luck
Jasper ******
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@Mark *****
cheers!
Stuart *********
@Ananda *****
That may help. No guarantee
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