Answereda year ago
Why was my visa application rejected without explanation and what should I do next?
Just rejected hcmc. Zero reasoning why, exceeded all the requested requirements.
Applied 09/29 @ 1100am
Rejected 10/10 @ 525pm
Joke. Won’t be reapplying, will find country that wants longterm stays. No reason to apply again if there’s no reasoning behind rejection.
Applied 09/29 @ 1100am
Rejected 10/10 @ 525pm
Joke. Won’t be reapplying, will find country that wants longterm stays. No reason to apply again if there’s no reasoning behind rejection.
Answer summary
The user experienced a rejection of their HCMC visa application after meeting all requirements, expressing frustration over the lack of explanation. Comments from the community varied, with suggestions for alternative countries, inquiries about the specifics of the application, and sharing of personal experiences with visa processes. Some suggested that rejections can occur for minor reasons and encouraged seeking clarity from authorities, while others highlighted the stringent requirements for long-term visas.
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Gagandeep *********
😂😂😂
Eren **********
We are good here without you
@Nick *****
. Thanks for the apply
Paras ********
Don’t take it personally. It’s a money-making system, like so many others. Just try a different embassy. My passport isn’t strong, and not to brag, but I have enough funds to support myself anywhere in the world. I’ve been rejected by multiple countries for that reason, yet they seem fine with illegals and refugees. Just saying 😄😄
Paul *******
Laos is a good country. Similar to Thailand. Good quality expats. Try it.
Anonymous ******************
If you work online there are many more friendly countries to live in Thailand not that country anymore
Marko ******
Go Vietnam
Alex *********
The only thing I can think about is your previous history in Thailand, have you been in Thailand for long term, perhaps with an ED visa by any chance?
Anonymous ******************
It’s common they reject first time applications for the slightest reason. Assuming most will apply again. They rejected me for not having my middle name on every single document. I had ChatGPT walk me through the next time and I got approved the next week. Was mad for a second but $750 applying twice still better than 1000 a company will charge. Best of luck
Anonymous ******************
Just to clarify, it was a rejection and not a cancellation, as they can do either, and each has different meaning. How long was the class that you registered for? What did they request of you and what did you supply?
Mo ******
They should give a reason. Try to ask them
Henrik *****
Worst advice.
Both the Embassy and the e-visa websites clearly states, that in case of rejection “NO REASON WILL BE GIVEN”
Both the Embassy and the e-visa websites clearly states, that in case of rejection “NO REASON WILL BE GIVEN”
Mr *******************
@Henrik ****
asking them is good advice. Yes it says that but there are many, many reports in this group of people who called the embassy after a rejection and were given very specific explanations as to the reason for it. Example:Henrik *****
There are many many more reports that Embassies stick to their policy, and give no answers.
Nick ******
OP@Mo *****
I will Monday, they sent it 5:25 on a FridayMo ******
@Nick *****
you should indeed try to understand why and then correct the mistake and apply in another embassy. Then you will have lost only the application fees. Stay strong and keep punching 🥊Nick ******
OP@Mo *****
🙏🏽🙏🏽Steve *******
The Philippines want you. And you don't even need a visa to stay long term. Go enjoy 10,000 islands and people who speak English.
Anonymous ******************
@Steve ******
there’s 0 comparison between the 2… Thailand is so far ahead of PH in every regard it’s not even a contestSteve *******
Anonymous participant 938 okay
Nick ******
OP@Steve ******
definitely looking into it, many options for longterm stays. I love Thailand but how ridiculous. Exceed everything and get rejected for no reason
De *****
@Nick *****
I wouldn't give up on DTV if you think Thailand is the best choice for you. Try in Laos, they require an interview which can be used to your advantage. They're mainly concerned about finances, but if you login to your phone and show them you have the $ you're in good shape. You can try Philippines, but I was there for 8 months and it wasn't for me. Wouldn't recommend Manila, go there and try places like Baguio, Tagaytay, Cebu, or even Boracay.Nick ******
OP@De ****
that’s good info, thank you much for the thought, I’ll possibly retry at some point. I was directed by the gym to hcmc for the easiest and fastest… but an in person interview would have landed it. I’ll update Monday if I can get a reason out of the embassy hereMo ******
@Nick *****
Nick Lomb this could be only a BS mistake in a birth date or delivery place of passportMo ******
Mo ******
@Nick *****
look we have examples here of people who got rejected one time and got accepted the second time. Look up for them you will see. Especially if you qualify, it means it’s a BS silly mistake. It was the case for them too but they lost 300 euros application feesNick ******
OP@Mo *****
ill find out Monday hopefully and update thanks for the hopeSteve *******
@Nick *****
the visa situation is a lot better in the Philippines, so you won't have that issue. A lot of expats stay in Cebu or Makati, so you should start there and visit a few islands.Steve *******
@De ****
you can get 6 month extensions in some provinces. But OP can't get a DTV, so now we're trying to help him find options.De *****
@Steve ******
The visa situation is generous and better for those without a Thai DTV, but DTV saves a lot more money than doing continuous tourist visa extensions in Ph. I also got tired of the trips every 60 days to immigration.Nick ******
OP@Steve ******
surf is better too 🤙🏽
Anonymous ******************
@Steve ******
Yes, enjoy all the earthquakes/ natural disasters. Also, the constant political drama/corruption they are currently having. I would stay far away from the phillipines for the time being. Also Steve, many people in thailand, especially in tourist areas with high volume speak english fine. Why don't you go to the phillipines instead?Steve *******
Anonymous participant 266 why did you get so offended by me recommending another country to another person? No one was talking to you. Are you okay, friend?
Steve *******
Anonymous participant 266 you reading into things that aren't there, isn't on me. I said nothing you seem to think I said.
Maybe work on that. It's okay to be positive, no one will hurt you for being nice.
Maybe work on that. It's okay to be positive, no one will hurt you for being nice.
Anonymous ******************
@Steve ******
You came off as offensive towards the country you live in. Why the comment about "people who can speak English"? I know many thais who speak perfect english. I also know Filipinos who don't. It's weird to live in Thailand and be in a Thai group, yet put down the people. Also, I stated nothing but the truth about the Philippines.
Ja *********
@Steve ******
still 3 rd worldSteve *******
@Ja ********
so is Thailand, bud.Anonymous ******************
Always apply DTV Muay Thai route if you can
Anonymous ******************
Hi when u appalled for the muay thai gym to get the DTV visa how many months did u pay your gym to do this vise cheers
Kurt *************
Anonymous participant 763 why? Not everyone is interested in doing muay thai for the next 5 years
Anonymous ******************
@Kurt ************
you don't have to show proof of Muay Thai for 5 years. That's whyKurt *************
Anonymous participant 325 right now you wont. But they didnt need to show proof for the ED visa either. Look what happened? 10 000 visa cancelled. You really think they not gonna change it?
Nick ******
OPAnonymous participant 763 that’s what I did
Anonymous ******************
Anonymous participant 763 not needed if you have the
Correct docs it’s easy
Correct docs it’s easy
Anonymous ******************
Sounds strange. My company just had a customer get her DTV in 8 working days. They did request additional paperwork asking for cover letter why she should get the visa. Either your paperwork wasn’t what they wanted or your passport is “weak”. Just redo it with proper company that can supply you with the required documentation 💯.
Nick ******
OPAnonymous participant 397 won’t be reapplying, us cit, greatly exceeded all requirements. Rejected without reason. It’s fine, just posting my results so others can avoid hcmc embassy and possibly the Thai dtv all together
Anonymous ******************
@Nick *****
HCMC is the easiest and most popular… you didn’t exceed or even meet expectations
Neville ********
@Nick *****
why avoid the Thai DTV altogether?Andi ***********
@Nick *****
HCMC is among the most popular for DTVs, very high rate of approval as this forum shows. There must be something they are not happy with but it is frustrating they have not told you.Andi ***********
@Nick *****
Yeah, it will be helpful to get an update. Good luck 🤞Nick ******
OP@Andi **********
possibly, I’ll call them Monday and update. ThanksAndi ***********
No requests for additional paperwork??
Nick ******
OP@Andi **********
they did request, I submitted immediately and thoroughly more than requested
Todd *********
@Nick *****
what were the supporting docs they requested? That should offer us an idea of where this went bad. It’s frustrating
Peter ********
@Nick *****
how long was your course paid for?
Josh *****
@Nick *****
That sounds toxic bro I know they don't refund for the rejected visa application, but PLEASE tell me your school/gym atleast was considerate enough to refund you? it's already disheartening to get the visa rejected let alone also lose money/time/effort.Peter ********
@Nick *****
I'm sorry that happened to you, it was my worst fear in trying for the DTV visa, hope you get some answers when you go to the embassy and ask why, could be a simple misspelling or wrong date. make sure you talk to that one guy that does them all at that embassy.Nick ******
OP@Peter *******
paid 6 months in advanceAndi ***********
@Nick *****
Ok, you did Softpower, how long was the course for?Andi ***********
@Mo *****
Yeah, others have been rejected for very short term courses.Mo ******
@Andi **********
yes sometimes the length of the Muay Thai classes, cooking classes, or medical treatments can be too shortAnonymous ******************
Clearly did not exceed all requirements then.
Anonymous ******************
Anonymous participant 266 exactly
Nick ******
OPAnonymous participant 266 you’re cool
Anonymous ******************
@Nick *****
Some people like to blame others for their problems, when in fact, there is no self accountability. It is an extremely easy visa to get, if you meet the requirements and enter your information correctly.Anonymous ******************
@Ni**
you think they’re rejecting people for fun? A bit of a laugh?Anonymous ******************
@Nick *****
well he’s somewhat correct. You didn’t clearly exceed all requirements otherwise you would have got the visa and not be so upset, crying that you’ll go live elsewhere.
M.L. *******
Sorry to hear, maybe a different country?
Nick ******
OP@M.L. ******
probably so, looking for longterm stays. Love Thailand but what a slap to the face trying to do the right thing. Greatly exceeded all requirements and rejected for no reason. I’ve done Ed visa and been in and out of Thailand many times never overstaying, im US cit. I’ll look elsewhere at this pointM.L. *******
@Nick *****
yes I was also rejected in Laos, they didnt tell me why. I received all requirementsTodd *********
@M.L. ******
what is clear, is that you didn’t meet all the requirements. Or you made mistakes in your applicationMo ******
@Nick *****
I think he meant try applying to the DTV from another country than Vietnam
Allan ******
@Mo *****
I think he’s going to go look at living somewhere else because Thailand has frustrated him.Anonymous ******************
@Nick *****
elite visa
John **********
You can try asking them but they don't have to give a reason. There was obviously something about your application they didn't like. Did you apply for soft power or workation?
Nick ******
OP@John *********
soft power, Muay Thai with good gym. They sent my denial 5:25pm on a Friday so I’ll still call Monday, but it’s fine I’ll go to another country longterm. Just posting results so others can avoid hcmc and maybe even the dtv altogetherHenrik *****
Don't waste your time calling.
The guidelines clearly states: NO REASON WILL BE GIVEN
The guidelines clearly states: NO REASON WILL BE GIVEN
Henrik *****
Then you will show how ignorant you are about the conditions for applying for a Thai visa, and you didn't research properly before applying
Nick ******
OP@Henrik ****
you do you buddy I’ll call if I please
Anonymous ******************
@Nick *****
wich gym ?Nick ******
OPAnonymous participant 370 6 months paid for at Phuket Muay Thai, they’ve helped many apparently
Anonymous ******************
@Nick *****
Monday is a Thai holiday so the embassy will be closed.John **********
@Nick *****
how long were you signed up for with the gym? 6 months is the bare minimum these daysAnonymous ******************
I had 1 month of muay thai classes and 500k I deposited 3 days prior and accepted hcmc not sure what you did differently they asked me for supporting docs twice about source of funds and future plans
Paul *******
@John *********
They're not going to give you a reason. Other countries don't give a reason either. Re-apply after making your application better or find another country.John **********
Anonymous participant 670 1 month won't cut it these days. 6 months or more is required
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