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Why are DTV (Departure Visa) denials frustrating for applicants?
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Jan 29, 2026
3 months ago
Terry ********
ORIGINAL POSTERA short public service announcement.
There is ALWAYS a reason why a DTV has been denied.
It's NEVER "for no reason".
Thank you. Carry on.
There is ALWAYS a reason why a DTV has been denied.
It's NEVER "for no reason".
Thank you. Carry on.
TLDR : Answer Summary
The discussion highlights the frustrations surrounding DTV denials, particularly the lack of communication regarding reasons for rejection. Many commenters agree there is always a reason for a denial, though often not disclosed. This leads to frustration as applicants feel left in the dark about the criteria used for decisions. The conversation also addresses the perceived motivations behind visa application fees and reapplication rates.
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Terry the know-it-all 🍷🧀
Brian ****
What we have here is a failure to communicate. When people say they were denied for no reason, what they actually mean is they were denied and no reason was given.
Terry ********
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Nope. Not always true.Reply to
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Kurt *************
Yes. There is always a reason. But most people dont see why themself.
John *********
For sure you will be denied if you refuse to agree to hold once approved an A1 laminated DTV at immigration queue😅
Muay *************
I think its the no reason given that is frustrating
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@Muay ************
frustrating but pretty normal for visa applications to most countriesLuit *****************
@John *********
Indeed it might be very frustrating, but it is also logical.With a visa you apply to be a guest in a country.
A country, just like most people wants to have the possibility to choose which guests it is allowing and which it does not allow.
There is not always a clear reason why a country does not want you as a guest.
A visa should not be compared with an entrance ticket you just buy, but more with an invitation to visit.
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Jef ********
You are 💯 correct the issue is them not telling people why that denied them…
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@Jef *******
use your brain. They know a certain percentage of failed applicants will re-apply, that's a significant revenue stream.Luit *****************
JJ_Noodles that is just conspiricy thinking, when they wanted more money they could also have doubled the fee.
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@Luit ****************
it's completely logical. It'd be simple to provide a one sentence explanation for a rejection.Luit *****************
Andy_o it might be simple to provide a reason, but a lot of countries decide not to do so, mainly because they want to have freedom to reject who they want.
Giving a reason would lead to discussions and that is just something they don't want.
Giving a reason would lead to discussions and that is just something they don't want.
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@Luit ****************
no because the 10k THB is split between Thai govt/foreign consulate. doubling the fee wouldn't boost staff salaries. informal 'bonuses' happen via 'connections' (40k+ THB)fear/uncertainty creates demand for special 'services'. employees in low paid jobs with 'discretion' are incentivized to boost their income informally (bribes) by randomly rejecting even qualified people.
same reason why families pool together 1M+ baht so a family member can get a low paid job at Thai customs, Immigration or Patong Police, or pretty much any crooked govt institution worldwide. the real income is informal
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215Luit *****************
Anonieme deelnemer 159 So you are indeed a conspiricy thinker.
What does you make believe MFA has to send half of the fee to the embassy?
Corrupt employees will be everywhere, but the method of rejection just is not a way to get easy money, because most rejected people just don't apply at the same embassy again.
And when everything was set up to send applicants to agents, then it would be stupid to reject applications done by
agents.
So your theory fails completely.
What does you make believe MFA has to send half of the fee to the embassy?
Corrupt employees will be everywhere, but the method of rejection just is not a way to get easy money, because most rejected people just don't apply at the same embassy again.
And when everything was set up to send applicants to agents, then it would be stupid to reject applications done by
agents.
So your theory fails completely.
Terry ********
ORIGINAL POSTER@Luit ****************
Well said. Completely agree.Reply to
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Anonymous ******************
JJ_Noodles In the grand scheme of things it’s actually insignificant. Visa fees are really there to help offset the costs of processing them but generally they don’t actually generate profit.
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Anonymous participant 428 keep it to the actual topic, the DTV specifically The system is built, paid for. The human time spent reviewing an application is tiny compared to the 10k thb fee. You can tell from the typical processing time vs. volume of applicants. It's nit massive money on the national scale but it's easy money.
Luit *****************
JJ_Noodles You say it is easy money, but that does not make sense.
It is only a small percentage, and the fees for this visa are very low.
Easy money would be double or triple the current fees for everyone.
That would be extra income without any work to be done.
It is only a small percentage, and the fees for this visa are very low.
Easy money would be double or triple the current fees for everyone.
That would be extra income without any work to be done.
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@Luit ****************
it's massive relative to zero effort.Luit *****************
Andy_o what is massive relative to zero effort???
I don't understand what you mean.
I don't understand what you mean.
Jef ********
💯 correct if it was about money they would have made it 50,000 baht people would still buy it.
Even at 50,000 it’s still very competitive
Even at 50,000 it’s still very competitive
Anonymous ******************
JJ_Noodles correct. the random uncertainty then increases demand for agent services (premium sales), which through commissions put real money into their own pockets (not embassy)
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Jef ********
You think they just pick them at random ay ? Or you think when they see they have a big bank balance and can afford a second application they just deny it ?
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@Jef *******
no. They'll just assess an applicant as failing to meet the requirements and reject them without providing a reason, know a certain number will reapply.Reply to
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Jef ********
Ok anonymous noodle 🍜
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@Jef *******
if you didn't figure out ten years ago how disempowering it is to use your real identity on social media, I pity you.Reply to
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Anonymous ******************
Depends
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