Why are DTV (Departure Visa) denials frustrating for applicants?

Andy_o it might be simple to provide a reason, but a lot of countries decide not to do so, mainly because they want to have freedom to reject who they want.

Giving a reason would lead to discussions and that is just something they don't want.

@Luit ****************

it's completely logical. It'd be simple to provide a one sentence explanation for a rejection.

Anonieme deelnemer 159 So you are indeed a conspiricy thinker.

What does you make believe MFA has to send half of the fee to the embassy?

Corrupt employees will be everywhere, but the method of rejection just is not a way to get easy money, because most rejected people just don't apply at the same embassy again.

And when everything was set up to send applicants to agents, then it would be stupid to reject applications done by

agents.

So your theory fails completely.

@Luit ****************

no because the 10k THB is split between Thai govt/foreign consulate. doubling the fee wouldn't boost staff salaries. informal 'bonuses' happen via 'connections' (40k+ THB)

fear/uncertainty creates demand for special 'services'. employees in low paid jobs with 'discretion' are incentivized to boost their income informally (bribes) by randomly rejecting even qualified people.

same reason why families pool together 1M+ baht so a family member can get a low paid job at Thai customs, Immigration or Patong Police, or pretty much any crooked govt institution worldwide. the real income is informal

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Andy_o what is massive relative to zero effort???

I don't understand what you mean.

@Luit ****************

it's massive relative to zero effort.

💯 correct if it was about money they would have made it 50,000 baht people would still buy it.

Even at 50,000 it’s still very competitive

JJ_Noodles You say it is easy money, but that does not make sense.

It is only a small percentage, and the fees for this visa are very low.

Easy money would be double or triple the current fees for everyone.

That would be extra income without any work to be done.

JJ_Noodles correct. the random uncertainty then increases demand for agent services (premium sales), which through commissions put real money into their own pockets (not embassy)

Anonymous participant 428 keep it to the actual topic, the DTV specifically The system is built, paid for. The human time spent reviewing an application is tiny compared to the 10k thb fee. You can tell from the typical processing time vs. volume of applicants. It's nit massive money on the national scale but it's easy money.

@Jef *******

no. They'll just assess an applicant as failing to meet the requirements and reject them without providing a reason, know a certain number will reapply.

@Jef *******

if you didn't figure out ten years ago how disempowering it is to use your real identity on social media, I pity you.