Which is better for a family: Koh Samui or Chiang Mai in Thailand?

Dec 8, 2023
a year ago
Virginia ************
ORIGINAL POSTER
Hello!! My family and I are moving to Thailand. We are deciding between Koh Samui and Chiang Maing. We would probably prefer Koh Samui because of the beach, but it is more expensive and further from Laos and Cambodia, places where we would like to visit and have friends. I would like to know for a family of 3, with an 18-month-old and a big dog. What is best? Chiang Mai or Koh Samui? We want to make friends, and find like minded people!
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A family is considering moving to Thailand and is debating between Koh Samui and Chiang Mai, favoring Koh Samui for its beach but concerned about costs and proximity to Laos and Cambodia. Comments highlight air pollution issues in Chiang Mai, especially during the burning season, leading to health concerns, particularly for young children. Koh Samui is suggested for better air quality and a more welcoming expat community, though it is more expensive and smaller. Alternative locations like Hua Hin, Krabi, and Ko Chang are also mentioned for their benefits, including lower costs and better living conditions.
Galenus ******
Be aware of the worst air quality for at least 3 months a year. Not good for anybody. Think of the health of your kid!
Virginia ************
ORIGINAL POSTER
Wow! Thank you all so much for all the comments! 🥰I took note of everything! This expat community is definetly welcoming!
Ammy ****
what abt Krabi ? I love Krabi
Ken ******
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Ken ******
@Ammy ***
seems bangkok worse than chiangmai today, krabi is way much better
Mick **********
I know a couple who moved from Chang Mai down to Krabi because of pollution. Krabi is nice place.
Lily ********
I’m a mom of two young kids.

Our family’s priority is the health of our children.

We lived in Bangkok for 13 years and decided to move out because of the air pollution problem. We visited ChiangMai lots of times before the air pollution got worse and it’s deadly serious as it is now so I never consider taking my kids to live in the north. ❌Lots of kids in the north are having health issues because of the polluted air. 😷

Sure, people say you can go to somewhere else during the smog season but once your kids are in school it’s not easy to always have to escape.

We moved to Samui and lived there for 1.5 years , we lived in a nice pool villa with beautiful beach and sunset view, we had made friends and had wonderful time. These are the reasons we moved out of Samui;

▪️Children activities were limited once they reach primary age.

▪️Once you live there for a while you feel that there is nowhere to go and not much to do besides relaxing by the beach. Yes, we learned to scuba dive and explored the neighboring islands but we wanted to have more options.

▪️It is expensive to fly the whole family out of the island as Bangkok Airways has a complete monopoly over their services.

▪️Commuting with the ferry is exhausting when you have to do often.

Where to live depends on your lifestyle and priority in your life.
Vas ****************************
Anywhere far from a beach is a cheap $hithole for poor retired ready to die: avoid !
Hector *********
HuaHin more suitable & your not stuck on island or in mountains. 🤔
Max ***********
Have you considered Krabi?
Max ***********
Samui is great but the weather is very hot there. Chiang Mai would be cooler at least.

1 problem with samui is that the traffic there is messy and busy (for an island) .

A lot of planes fly over samui if you go there stay far from the whole north east area.
AxMdob *******
Cambodia or Malaysia better place for live really cheaper and better for visa
Ken ******
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Rich ****
Chiang Mai has real magic and charm and so many of us just love it here. You can walk around the old city and see so much culture and history block by block. It's more manageable and affordable than Bangkok. Great deals on condos and rentals. Great expat community. Samui is mostly a vacation island.
Chris *****
@Rich ***
exact expat community is higher level there.

More respectfull about nature and more interresting 😉
Alex *******
Take Chiang Mai (or anywhere in Northern Thailand) off your list unless you can get away from there for a few months around March-April.
Ken ******
hi there are some real time air quality apps available for free download on internet

so can compare over different regions even countries, just do google search
Tamara ***************
Chiang Mai can be nice, but they have months of burning that make the air quality horrific.

I'd agree with
@Richard ********
to consider Phuket, rather than Koh Samui. Samui is really pricey with extra cost for the airport anytime you fly in. (Edit: just read the post above about Samui resident airfares, so this argument is not valid any longer!!) The north side of Phuket is still very green, and there is a large, multicultural expat community (many of whom are long-termers).

I'd recommend taking some time to stay in each location and chat up some local expats to see which you feel most comfortable in.
Klee **************
your advise is solid 😄
Tamara ***************
@Klee *************
I've actually been considering Sam Roi Yot, except I have family in Phuket and health issues. I love that area of the coast.
Klee **************
@Tamara **************
you get what you pay for in Thailand, Chiang Mai is cheap for a reason, Koh Samui is a huge rip off island, Hua Hin is just perfect for my wife and I
Andra *********
Can you say more about north of Phuket? Where exactly ?

And region Krabi or Koh Lanta ?
Tamara ***************
@Andra ********
Anywhere east and northeast of the Heroines Monument is still low-development. As for Krabi and Koh Lanta, I can't really say. I'm looking into Pha Nga myself.
Richard *********
@Andra ********
Its beautiful area ( around Thalang) an the whole east coast north of the Heroine's monument with nice beaches ( layan beach on the west coast with the Nat park right there) and a many areas with no tourists at all

The phuket haters are ones that visited / lived in Patong and feel that represents Phuket island) :-)
Tamara ***************
@Richard ********
agreed. I think in my year a of living in and visiting Phuket, I've been to Patong maybe 5 times and only for dentist or tailor because other locations were booked. It's a pity since that area was really beautiful once.
Klee **************
Why in the world would you bring a dog to Thailand
Mike **********
@Klee *************
Animal lovers know why.
James ********
@Klee *************
perhaps you never had a dog that was part of the furniture ….. I mean it’s not like an old book or t shirt you can leave behind …. Just sayin’
Gregg *************
Chiangmai during the non burning season then head to the islands when they start burning

Check out ko pha ngan

That’s my fav island but it’s also gotten kinda touristy too but nothing like samui or Phuket
Tamara ***************
@Gregg ************
Always preferred Kho PhaNgan to Samui myself, too!!
Richard **************
Remember, Thailand does not want you living there. They will change the “laws” monthly and every time you go to immigration you will not know what’s up or down. Cambodia is a much wiser choice
AxMdob *******
Richard *********
@Richard *************
LOL: after living in Kep Cambodia for 17 months(
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Richard **************
@Richard ********
I keep rereading my post. I can’t seem to find where I mentioned price.
Richard *********
@Richard *************
u said wiser

so why in ur opinion is it a wiser choice other than easy to get a 1 year extension?

I saw ZERO reason why it would be wiser
Richard **************
@Richard ********
please fight with someone else. Not interested.
Richard *********
@Richard *************
just asking, why a wiser choice?

and u put it off as a fight
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Jim *******
Check out Cha Am really beautiful place rent very cheap good community of people there
William ************
Make sure Thailand and more importantly long term living in Thailand is for you .

Do whatever but test by staying 3 /6 months to make sure .
Nika ********
Both places have good and bad qualities, check.out the schools, the houses and the atmosphere in both places, rent a car and take a look at other places, hua him, cha am etc..also.depends on what you are doing for work and type of visa
Dan ********
Don't let strangers on the Internet decide where you will live. Don't let your best friends decide where you will live. Go and see for yourself.
John ***********
@Dan *******
The important point you make is 'Go and see for yourself'. Why anyone would consider moving to another country with a child and dog without experiencing it personally is beyond comprehension.
Dan ********
@John **********
Mind blowing. Especially thailand, where when the going gets tough, it can make a grown man cry. And when you hear "Ooh I don't like spicy food" !! And complaining of 'the heat' or 'the traffic'. I'm just dealing with my on/off psycho exgirlfriend, kindly cat-sitting at my villa, sending me photos of her bloodied face, where she slipped while climbing to look into the water storage tanks investigating the lack of water to the taps, landing on her face, her teeth cutting right through her lip, in the area underneath the villa that I know the snakes love, including a 3 meter python, which must've taken a few of the 8 kittens I've lost in two years, others savaged by street dogs, or at best, dying from a horrible virus. Meanwhile I've just been grilled for an hour by immigration officers on arrival at BKK about my comings and goings, where I have had to fly out/in as my previous visa expired today, and I'm yet to collect my Elite visa sticker, so had to fly to Malaysia and back so had to prove my financials, source of income, Elite membership, and justify some overstay stamps to allow me entry. My exgirlfriehd has a friend of hers coming, at midnight, to get the water running again, after spending the evening crying and tending her wounds. I'll grab a hotel in bkk and head back down to samui tomorrow. And all that just today. Today is a quiet day. A good day. I've only been gone just over 48 hours. But yeah, you bring your 18 month old baby, and your dog, the two very last things I'd want around me here, and see how you like it. Oh and my fridge has stopped working again. 🥳
Ken ******
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Chapathan *************
Samui is surely gonna be expensive. Visiting other places in Thailand will have to be by boat or plane.

I would consider changing Samui to Phuket if you want a similar vibe but more accessible.
Melanie ********
Do your dog a favour

Avoid the heat & the risk of attack from soi dog packs running streets

How do you plan on simply moving to Thailand ? your not over 50 so it’s going to be difficult
ฉันเป็นทางของประชาชน *********
Thailand is mens Heaven. Save your marriage and don’t move to Thailand. 🙏🏽
Shane ************
Phuket. Beach and clean air.
Rob *************
Check out the pollution levels between the two. It can be a deal breaker if you are into healthy living.
Paul ********
Dont even contenplate moving until you are both 100% sure on what you both want?.There is more to living out here than the love of this country?.Believe me?..But i wish you both well in achieving your ambitions? 👍
Lorne *********
Udonthani has everything
Tamara ***************
@Lorne ********
Udon Than has a nice little international school as well.
Stuart ***********
Regina **********
Wow wow wow
Terry ********
The big dog will be cooler in Chiang Mai
Terry ********
Depends what kind of mind you have
Heather *******
Comparing Chiang Mai to Koh Samuri is like comparing chalk to cheese. Chaing Mai is the 3rd largest city in Thailand with all the facilities you would expect whilst Koh Samuri by comparison is a small island with little to offer accept a coast line. However the smoky season in Chiang Mai gets worse each year and and is enough for many, including myself, to relocate to places such as Hua Hin
Christopher *******
My family moved to Koh Samui last, year we have small kids, a big dog and small dog.

We moved to Phang Nga recently only for the sake of staying in Thailand.

We were extremely happy on Koh samui. It is paradise.

Chiang Mai is also a wonderful place but I wouldn't want to live there during the burning season so if you plan to go there I'd also plan to leave during that time of the year.

I also want to live in Chiang Mai in the future but only briefly.

I plan to live on Samui again in the future and possibly settle there more long term.
Gregg *************
Ko
Gregg *************
Jo samui is nothing but an over priced tourist trap for rich tourist
Gregg *************
Chiangmai has an amazing community and a lot to offer esp alternative healthy lifestyle and lots of culture and will be much more affordable and friendlier people in the north in general

I know thailand well

Go to chiangmai

I lived there for six yrs
Werner *******
Having a car on Koh Samui is difficult, because the roads are quite narrow. The best option is to use a motorbike...however, that's fraught with danger, as this is one of the worst countries in the world for traffic deaths.

I live on Koh Samui and I love it...it really is a tropical paradise.

Note, if you have health issues, that Chiang Mai sometimes has the worst air quality in the WORLD...farmers burning crops and so on. Do some research on this before making a decision, as it can be a real problem.
Hovvard ******
Koh Chang?
Matthew **********
When your family is developing lung/breathing/coughing issues in Chiang Mai, you'll have your answer.
George *******
@Matthew *********
why what’s wrong with the air in chiang mai?
Katrin *******
@George ******
the annual burning season makes it the worst polluted city in the world for some months every year.
George *******
@Katrin ******
oh really never knew that. Thanks for the information
Jacob ********
@Matthew *********
and or Samui. Make sure you have a mask as its getting worse every year.
Matthew **********
@Jacob *******
that's a little bit, on the wind. Completely different ball game to Samui.
Mark ***************
Yeah avoid Chaing Mai
Henrik *****
Start by worry about visa and work permit, and then start with a trial run staying 60 + 30 days on touristvisa ( no working allowed ), to see if Thai everyday life is like you dream it to be.
Steven ***************
Just guessing that money isn't an issue for you as your only real option as a young family to live here is elite visas unless working here is involved, which could effect your choice anyway. Why don't you spend 6-12 months living in both before making a long term home decision? Also unless one of you is Thai, owning a home/land here is near impossible. Big step without doing a lot of homework outside of Facebook.
James ********
It probably depends on your age and your outlook ….. I’d go for Chiang Mai , a good and uncrowded international airport … good connections for Indochina and Yunnan …. The burning season might not be pretty but it’s nothing like a Delhi Nov/Dec , and worth remembering ten of millions of people dealing with smoke and dust everyday of there lives with out access to apps that just serve to make it sound worse that it is . Chiang Mai diverse … Samui one trick pony !
Ken ******
@James *******
better not playdown on air pollution

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James ********
@Ken *****
like saying veterinary surgeon gets knocked over by a cow so everyone stop eating Beef !! 🤦🏻‍♂️
James ********
@Ken *****
so Ken your not visiting anywhere with air pollution I take it ? Sounds a bit limiting to me … just sayin’
Ken ******
@James *******
actually it is up to every body choice, depending on info available, there is always cost doing something pros and cons but we live in a free society
James ********
@Ken *****
and how would you compare burning season in CNX to day to day in Jordan HK for instance ? Six of one , half a dozen of another id say …..
James ********
@Ken *****
unlucky me thinks !
Neil ********
The Thai government has signed double tax agreements with many countries worldwide, including the United Kingdom, It can always change

You need to have something to do so busier places better. Jeantiem south of Pattaya , Rayongi all close to Bangkok too
Andra *********
@Neil *******
I m from Romania 🇷🇴 not UK
Andra *********
@Neil *******
can you send me something to read about this ? Since when is this one ? Double taxes means if I m paying in my country for what I m doing I should pay here also ???
Neil ********
@Andra ********
no you pay in the original country ( in your case the UK) and you don’t pay again on that cash
Keith ************
Air pollution is a risk factor for lung cancer, emphysema, heart disease, and stroke. Stay away from Chiang Mai.

And I wouldn't subject a youngster to the air there.
Ken ******
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Jan *********
Rayong, living near the beach there is way cheaper than Koh Samui.

It's also near Bangkok and Cambodia.

But if you're going to border hop you can't stay for long nowadays.
Reidar **********
Be aware of taxation, all foreign income to be taxed 35%, starting January 1 2024, including pensions.
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@Reidar *********
Misinformation on many points . Only if you are a tax resident. 180 days And different rates for differeent levels of income.
Ken ******
@Reidar *********
this more concern,

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John ***********
@Reidar *********
35% on pensions which are tax free in their country of origin! I'd be opting for Cambodia in a milli-second if that's the case. Thailand is pricing itself out of contention as a retirement destination. F**king ridiculous!
Tony *********
@John **********
this is pure fantasy. It's never going to happen. This group has its idiots peddling rumours and lies.
Matthew **********
@Reidar *********
wrong. Eg, UK and Thailand have an agreement so there's no dual taxation. Many other nations do too. Thailand economy would collapse if they tried such tricks as all their foreign income would move to Philiphines or Vietnam.
Larry *******
@Matthew *********
thanks pal i am breathing a lot easier now lets see what develops in the new year me and my thai wife have plans to return so hope this does not happen
Tony *********
@Larry ******
I've been here 27 years and I've heard more rumours that never came to anything than I've had hot dinners.
Tony *********
@Reidar *********
where you get that quality piece of information?
Reidar **********
@Tony ********
Direct from my former lawyer in BKK. Learn and understand.
Tony *********
@Reidar *********
you are fortunate indeed that he is your former lawyer. Do you how know how many lawyers I've had dealings with? I don't know if you have been in Thailand as long as I have but if I had believed every rumour I ever heard about changing government policy that never ended up on the statute books I'd be a multi-millionaire. I'll give you an example. Many years ago when I was a marketing director for a property company I got a phone call from someone who claimed to be on the government committee that was going to change policy that would disallow foreigners from becoming directors on companies that owned land. Did it ever happen? What do you think? Apart from the fact that you are ignoring dual taxation treaties why did your lawyer pick 35% out of the hat. Why not the normal withholding tax of 15%. Beware of what Thai lawyers tell you or anyone else for that matter. Instead of spreading spurious rumours why don't you just wait and see what happens. Learn and understand.
John ***********
@Tony ********
The guy deserves a ban for spouting such nonsense!
Reidar **********
@John **********
Ignorance is not a bliss .. Verified by Thai tax accountant, a 35% tax will be levied on all foreign income If the recipient has lived within the borders of Thailand over 180 days commencing January 1, 2024. Countries with Thai tax treaties could be exempt, if income already taxed. If the recipient is listed as home country "Non- Resident" for tax purposes, he/she has to pay eventually. This applies equally to nationals and foreigners alike.
Larry *******
Has anybody got any information on expats being taxed on there foreign earnings/pensions by the Thai goverment next year
Ken ******
@Larry ******
doing google search and you can find tons of info on the new tax from law firms, tax consultants and youtubers, also about double tax interpretation, it is effective january next year
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@Larry ******
it’s still in the works. Question is: does your country of origin have a double taxation treaty? Does your visa require you pay taxes?
Larry *******
UK resident i all ready pay tax on my pensions i am married to a thai we intended to come back to retire next year surely they can not tax me again on my pensions and if they did what do we get back i just find this incredible we bring our funds into Thailand putting it into the Thai economy and get stung again if this does happen we will be having a bit of a rethink
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@Larry ******
if you’re income is UK you OK.
Larry *******
@Chris ***
thanks pal
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@Larry ******
. . If the UK is the same as Australia, pensions and superannuation funds are protected because of standing tax laws between both countries. These "new " tax laws are nothing more than proposals at the moment and will have a much bigger impact on thais earning income and holding business interests overseas, which once the elite here realise, will be quickly shelved, like most of the bright ideas the govt here have..
Mike ******
@Steven **************
very good answer..and true
Larry *******
@Steven **************
Thanks pal that makes sense lets see what develops in the new year
Richard *********
add phuket, nicer, more to do and cheaper than Samui>

I'd never move to CM BUT Chaing Rai , IF they had a sea>

Otherwise i am happy here in Phuket
Richard *********
not to argue buy the whole north of the island, center and east coast is full off rubber, pineapple and durian plantations

yea, but if the sea is not ur thing, why stay here 🙂

6 months in 97 doesn't account for much thou

dont get me started on samui
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John ***********
@Richard ********
Phuket is a horrible place to live. Expensive with unfriendly Thais and more Russians than you'd find in Moscow.
Richard *********
@John **********
to each their own,

Been my home ( except for 2
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wouldn't trade it for anywhere else

IR cheaper than Samui and cleaner air than CM :-)
John ***********
@Richard ********
As you say, each to their own. I lived there 6 months in 1997 after 5 years in Bangkok, and absolutely hated it, but I have to admit swimming in the sea has little appeal to me which does not leave much else to do, Unlike Samui, Phuket's natural vegetation had been stripped for tourism and the only vegetation I recall was the rubber plantations in the island's south. But I guess if you have the money and something to do there, the story may be different.
Chris *****
Chiang mai is better quality life and higher expat level.

I belt if familly around you beach will get your priority....

But Chang Mai is better for long term aventure hère .

Samui Can be borred exceed 2 month.

Beach , food ...thats all
Bonnie *********
@Chris ****
CM has horrid air for
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@Bonnie ********
yes sure .

But water quality in Samui in not better ...thailand dont want talk about this .

But last analyz was a disaster as most if resort have dirty water go in beach water .

Anyway nowhere is realy clean
Roman *********
Koh Chang all the way :)
Phil ******
@Virginia ***********
both aren't good choices. Chiang Mai has bad air pollution from January to May and Koh Samui is expensive. As tourist places try to chose somewhere maybe like Turtle Beach....Chaam or Kanchanaburi too
Michael *********
Pollution in CM becomes hideous in “burning season” was one of the most polluted cities on earth last season.
Karinya *************
Pattaya is another great choice, located near Bangkok, lots of beaches, good infrastructures
Chris ******
@Karinya ************
Pattaya great for kids!😉
John *******
It's a no brainer with a young family koh samui is the choice if your health is important to you chiang mai has burning season every year and it's not pleasant chohk di
John ***********
@John ******
Might be a no brainer for you or people with access to endless capital, but from a long term point of view, Samui wouldn't rate a mention with me.
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@John **********
if you care to read the post they are moving to Thailand and have 2 places in mind chiang mai or koh samui and out of those 2 it's samui for me and it's not about endless capital it's about managing what funds you have at your disposal 6 months of the year I choose to live in phuket is where I reside doesn't matter where you decide to live if you try and live above your means you are doomed for failure I live comfortable without the expense and it's obvious they have sufficient funds to live in samui otherwise it wouldn't be one choice of theirs
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@John ******
You think I didn't read their post?! I thought it was obvious from my post that I was familiar with their needs and I expressed my opinion. If you don't like it, too bad. As I said, if they have the money to move a family and a dog to Samui, go for it. I must confess I don't have much time for people who say they are moving to places that they don't seem to know much about.
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@John **********
you serious you just stated it's obvious from your post you are familiar with their needs it was not your post you gave no opion on the post in question you just made comment on my comment wow it appears you are very educated NOT and in your case it seems it's not mandatory to have a long neck to be a goose
Barry *******
Hua Hin is a good shout.
Wolfram *******
Why not Ko Chang?

For a family better than Koh Samui.

Beautiful Island. TRAT airport isn't far away.
Stuart ***********
@Wolfram ******
agree Ko Chang seems to be in a better location for them, close to Cambodia and Laos also has nice beaches.
John ******
@Stuart **********
Koh Chang is nice but very small island. Just one road and no big stores.no Makro( just s very small one) no shoppingmall, no homepro, no big supermarket. Is a real holiday island
Stuart ***********
@John *****
I wouldn't recommend they live on any island as I think it would get boring, but they seem to want to. I think you are correct about Koh Chang being too small.
John ******
@Stuart **********
Cambodia has just one beach, sinoukvill. Is taken over by the Chinese people. Further no beaches.
Stuart ***********
@John *****
apologies my post was poorly worded, I meant Koh Chang has nice beaches (not Cambodia).
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@Stuart **********
sure.

Koh Samui in the 80th and 90th ok.

Now.....?

To busy, to expensive and so on.

Now an Island for party peoples.

Ko Chang at this time is more beautiful with nice Islands in the near.
Nigel **************
@Stuart **********
and you can take your car on the ferry
Alastair ********************
Samui is too small, you'll outgrow it very quickly. You'll be reliant on either flights or a ferry to travel elsewhere in Thailand, another added expense especially for a family of 3. A location on the mainland would give you more options, and you can still visit Samui if you still desire. Samui is obviously much more expensive than other potential locations.
Dimitri ********
@Alastair *******************
Samui is more than 2x Paris...
Alastair ********************
@Dimitri *******
in size or price or both.

Samui is a nice place to visit, but when living there it's very small, you drive around it in a couple of hours. A good chuck on the island is for tourists and not really suitable (imo) for living.
John ***********
@Alastair *******************
Totally agree. You'd have to have a great love of the sea to want to live there and it ain't cheap.
Dimitri ********
@Alastair *******************
Samui is 2x Paris in size.

Prices are waaaaaay cheaper. You can still find a decent house in Samui for 10K฿. In Paris, you got an underground parking spot for that price if you are lucky 🤣.

Even if you live in Tokyo or New-York or in a small village in Issan, at the end, you stay near your accommodation / neighbourhood most of the time.

For example, Parisians don't go visit the Eiffel Tower everyday.

The only thing that embarrass me with living in Samui is not the size of the island itself, but the options to get out of the island. Flights are expensive (especially if you don't have a resident card), and in peak season, planes are fully booked. Not cool if you have an emergency.
Alastair ********************
@Dimitri *******
"options" I think you got it spot on there, and probably what I was clumsily trying to convey.
Dimitri ********
Maple *********
Phang nga it’s good choice. Good air and not far from Phuket airport. Near the sea not expensive as Samui
Christopher *******
Recently moved here from Samui and I second this!
Dan ********
Chiang Mai would be my suggestion, fantastic place to live for 9-10 months of the year...Just spend the smokey 2-3 months on holiday in Samui,win/win
John ***********
@Dan *******
Three months a year is a lot of time to spend paying rent in Samui and Chiang Mai at the same time.
Bonnie *********
@Dan *******
More like 3-4 months. At best, mid-February through rainy season, usually May.

Pollution in CM has already hit 60-70.
Tony *********
All you have to do is to decide which of the two based on your previous visits did you like best.
Andy **********
Samui residents can also get discounts on flights with Bangkok Airways. 30% of on international flights, and fixed 2500bht one way domestic flights.
David *******
@Andy *********
good to know
Andy **********
Spouses also get it
Chris ****
Isn’t chiang Mai and Samui just Phuket?
Nigel **************
@Chris ***
3 totally seperate places
Andy ******
@Chris ***
read Google maps mate , Phuket is not close to any of them
Chris ****
@Andy *****
you missed the joke mate.
John ***********
@Chris ***
I missed it too. If you have to think too hard, nothing is funny.
Andy ******
@Chris ***
why joke when people want some serious advice ,scroll on !!!
Pascal ********
Samui is a bit small . 2 and half hour by ferry to go out or in or Plane. CM will give you more choices to move around
John ******
chiang mai is great. have been there several years BUT BUT several months a lot of fog
Bonnie *********
@John *****
That’s not fog. You know that.
Brian *********
I’m a diver so Samui is obvious for me but Chiang Mai is a bit less expensive overall. But as mentioned the smoke gets pretty bad in the north because it’s also coming from Myanmar and Laos.

Fwiw I’m in Khon Kaen and one thing I see a lot of is families and children.

Warning, keep your dog close and confined. Soi dogs run in packs and can be dangerous.
David *******
@Brian ********
true story. Territorial and sport to chew on lost falung
Paul *****************
Why not Udon Thani ?
Ava **********
@Paul ****************
you like this area? can you say more
Paul *****************
@Ava *********
...just google it 😉...my girlfriend is originally from there and it looks very appealing.
Nathalie **********
Have you considered Hua Hin?
Virginia ************
ORIGINAL POSTER
@Nathalie *********
Yes, but I didn't like it.
Galenus ******
Samui because of better air quality 🌲
Bonnie *********
Chiang Mai has a long and pretty horrid burning season. Flights to other countries are inexpensive.

Have you visited Thailand?
Ava **********
@Bonnie ********
on that note, when would you say the season is? I have heard different things... march to june is most common, but I hear even now it has started and low-key runs through late Dec, Jan, etc. Does this mean Bangkok would be a "no go" (for air quality, too), and is Pattaya a lot better, and on that note, in P is the SX industry right in your face at all times? It doesn't look as good as Bangkok... just like an old town. I assume the beaches on the east coast facing in are better than the beaches on the west coast facing in (and sunsets?) curious!
Bonnie *********
@Ava *********
February to rainy season, usually mid-May. We’ve had some higher AQI already this year. I ride my scooter around the province and have found burning already.

I was here through most of March this year; I won’t do that again. I’m leaving after the flower show in February.
Ava **********
@Bonnie ********
ok thx for the info
Bonnie *********
@Ava *********
I haven’t been to the beaches since the tsunami. I lived on an island in a different country and developed “island fever”. Bangkok gets polluted, too. South of there you have crosswinds that help.
Ava **********
@Bonnie ********
what does 'gets reported' mean. for air quality? If so, I have read about it, but hear Pattaya is better, but sex tourism industry inthe face. where do you go for the burnign season and when do you go back?
Bonnie *********
@Ava *********
Autocorrected! Polluted with smoke. Sorry.
Ava **********
Bo *******
Biggest problem are VISA ! 🤭
Todd *********
@Bo ******
visa can be an issue for under 50. But no problem at all if over
Bo *******
@Todd ********
No many with 18 month baby over 50 🤭
Todd *********
@Bo ******
never been to SE Asia?
Bo *******
@Todd ********
I live here !!
Todd *********
@Bo ******
then you should definitely know
Bo *******
@Todd ********
Know what 🤭
Brandon ************
That's an easy one. The only thing you need to consider is your health and the health of your family. Chiang Mai has the worst air pollution in the world for multiple months every year. Just google "Chiang Mai Smoke Season"

If you don't want to deal with that, then pick Koh Samui and visit the north when it's not smoky.
Jonathan ********
@Brandon ***********
yep and it’s closer to Cambodia
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