What are the challenges and recommendations for a single mother moving to Thailand with children?

Sep 26, 2023
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Carley *******
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Hello, thinking of moving over with my two children but at the moment just researching

Please can anybody give me any advice, tips etc please.

Thank you. I am a single mother
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A single mother is considering moving to Thailand with her two children and is seeking advice on education, visa options, and general tips for relocating. Community responses highlight the high costs of international schooling and suggest exploring homeschooling options or a long holiday to test the waters before making a permanent move. It's recommended that she research visa requirements thoroughly, as moving isn’t straightforward. Some users suggest alternatives like other countries for teaching English, while others share their personal experiences living and working in Thailand.
Jordi ********
People don't know how to ask questions anymore...
Steve **********
Very ĺittle here for a single farang mom with children .

Culture is what it is !

Would suggest looking at Philippines.
Terary **********
You will not regret it. It may be a journey with some pitfalls and mishaps but in the end I think you will agree that it's worth it.

You could try to smuggle-in your kids but recommend getting them visas. They may need to be educated which is another visa option for both you and them (they get a ED visa and you get a parent visa).

If you are bringing your own money - good for you, enjoy your trip. If you will need to earn money here, there are few job prospect. People without too much skill can become teachers and dive instructors, both do not pay very good.

To be honest.. I find the bureaucracy of Thailand to be quite silly and now there is a new government which means there will be new/more bureaucracy... Its the worse part of Thailand and in the end, its worth it.
Paul *****
Find a teaching job, I used Ajarn.com

The job will secure your visa including your kids.

Have your kids enroll there and the rest is history.
Terry ********
My two cents, look at a different country to teach in. I’ve also taught many years here. Retired now. I do love it here, but I’ve been here almost 20 years. I was also a single male. I would never have came here in your situation.

I would recommend looking at other countries you can teach in and that have English as a second language. The Philippines comes to mind. Wages would be about the same, visa is easier. There’s a few other places as well. I see your biggest hurdle being that you will only have a TEFL cert.

best of luck in whatever you decide
Strider ******
@Terry *******
interesting Terry - what is the cut off age for teaching overseas, in your opinion?
Terry ********
@Strider *****
, the age that you stop enjoy doing it. However, in most Asian countries age will be a factor in getting a job. Most schools prefer younger over experienced teachers and they will often tell you that. Also looks are important. This is just a general statement, not all schools are like that
Strider ******
@Terry *******
thank you for the reply.
Terry ********
@Strider *****
btw, I stopped in my early 50’s. And it was getting more and more difficult to find employment
Strider ******
@Terry *******
ah ok, that shuts the gate. All good - always important to see how different angles work.
Christine *******
@Terry *******
The Philippines is NOT a good choice. The number of hours you're expected to work there is extreme, and I've heard many cases of teachers just not getting paid.
Terry ********
@Christine ******
I’m just saying explore all available choices , do research, make informed decisions
Michael *******
Madz ******
Hiya, I've lived, travelled, holidayed and worked in Thailand over the past 17 years (not consecutively), I taught in international schools and pre-K too. I'm a woman by the way too. Happy to chat if you'd like to! It's a daunting but exciting prospect but good to know the pros and cons 👍🏽🙏🏽
Carley *******
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@Madz *****
I would love to chat and get any information and help please if you don’t mind XX
Madz ******
@Carley ******
of course, drop me a DM / friend req
Nicolas ********
People really be out here just believing what they see on instagram... no research, no planning , no education. Probably never even been to the country they want to just move to . 🤦🏻‍♂️
Carley *******
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@Nicolas *******
bloody love toy story. We were watching it today as a matter of fact 😁🤦🏿‍♀️
Crystal ***********
Curious - what visa do you plan on jumping on in order to live there? Are you old enough for the retirement?
Carley *******
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@Crystal **********
no I’m 30. I am just exploring at the moment what my options are
Crystal ***********
@Carley ******
You might want to dive into the visa situation first then. Its not that easy to just up and move to Thailand permanently. If it was, we'd all be there already, lol.
Carley *******
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@Crystal **********
no I know that’s why I am just looking into it at the moment and asked the questions here. Thank you so much ☺️ x let’s move together 😝
Henrik *****
Before you take the plunge, do a long time holiday, to se if Thailand is the paradise you dream about, when the everyday life kicks in.

Try 60 days touristvisa with 30 days extension as a starter.
Billy *******
You're better off homeschooling the kids. There are groups of foreigners that coordinate and work together homeschooling. I could eloborate further but I've worked in 7 schools.
Carley *******
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@Billy ******
thank you. Could you maybe point me in the direction of the homeschool support group please so I can look into that route. I really appreciate your kindness and help. Thank you
Carley *******
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@Billy ******
oh really? That would be an option, is it free to do that and plenty of support etc?
Billy *******
@Carley ******
yea apparently. I know of a group of parents on Phuket. But i wouldnt recommend Phuket. It's crowded. You can search for other cities like BKK or Chiang Mai. The schools are either too expensive or going at a slow pace because theyre trying to teach Thai speaking students STEM subjects in a language the kids are not fluent in. EP programs are sketchy. Plus so much time is wasted with projects and ceremonies and commuting, it's numbing. All your kids' classmates will be speaking Thai. I'd go the homeschool support group option first and not rule out an insanely expensive international school only because i haven't worked in one. ....and can't say it's a bad choice for sure.
Peter *******
Better to educate your kids in falangland, plus Thailand is a man's world
Steve **********
John *********
@Peter ******
Ever left Pattaya?
Peter *******
@John ********
Travelled all over, no doubt your wife is younger
John *********
@Peter ******
I won't give that stupid remark the time of day pal. But we can discuss the other inanity that Thailand is a "man's world" if you wish. Outside of the sad world you frequent in "Good ol' Patts" there is a great deal more equality traditionally than there is/was historically in Western nations. Plenty of women climbing electrical poles, and working in roles that were in the past reserved for men where we come from. Women in Thailand run the show at home, manage the money etc unless the man is a no hoper. You stay with your Pattaya "man's world" and try not to talk too much shit about things you don't know about in the real world.
Peter *******
@John ********
irrelevant drivel, is your wife younger? no one is talking about the perspective of thai women, it's about a farang woman wanting to live in Thailand
John *********
@Peter ******
You mate are the peanut that made the statement "Thailand is a man's world". That was the irrelevant drivel. Ciao.
Peter *******
@John ********
why didn't you bring an older farang wife with you or meet a farang one here? because you wanted a much younger thai wife
John *********
@Peter ******
Stop dribbling shit man. You are showing yourself to be the idiotic Pattaya bar stool sad case that you are judging people on who they are or are not in a relationship with. Grow up you fkg dick.
Peter *******
@John ********
You're a troll anyway with no photos on your profile, trolls get ignored
Carley *******
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@Peter ******
oh really? That’s heartbreaking I didn’t know that at all. 💔 where is falangland?
Charlie *****
@Carley ******
don't listen to these idiots. Thailand is not a man's land. They are simply referring to the places they frequent (girly bars and areas with lots of them). A farang is a foreigner. So they basically mean to educate them in your own country. Again, don't take the advice of these 'men' regarding the education or life you're providing your children.
@John ********
you knew all the Thai lingo before you came here? Doubt it.

The people in these groups are generally awful and unhelpful. Don't listen to them. Seems to mostly be bitter old dudes who came here to get what they couldn't get in their own countries.... I'd recommend joining groups which are for the area you plan to go to, they all have their own. You will probably get some friendlier and more helpful advice there.

I came here as a single mum too- years ago.

Good luck!
Peter *******
@Charlie ****
what a fool you are if you don't see it and yes I've travelled all over Thailand
Carley *******
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@Charlie ****
thank you so much! Would love any help and advice you have if you don’t mind talking xx
John *********
@Charlie ****
Casting some aspersions there Charlie. You on the old "Farang comes to Thailand to screw Young's girls" predictable BS. I am married, live far away from "girly bars" in rural Thailand and am bringing up two adopted children with my wife. If the lady thinks she is going to land in Thailand without the least bit of knowledge about the country other than watching re-runs of "The Beach", with two kids in tow, on a teaching English course and no other source of income, no Thai language (you just taught her her first word, ฝรั่ง and it's meaning) , not to mention visas, she is in cloud cuckoo land. And you shouldn't be stereotyping people either or maybe I should be thinking about how YOU got along being a single white female looking to make money in Pattaya. Plenty of them too eh?
Charlie *****
@John ********
just out of interest, why do you think that Thailand is a man's land? You live rurally so obviously I was wrong with my assumption?
John *********
@Charlie ****
I don't think that at all. I bring up two female children, and my mother in law is at our house more often than not so it is only the one eyed dog and myself who are male. I work away and all but my beer money and minor expenses is sent home weekly for my wife to save and look after the house and family, not limited to the immediate household (Thai style) which she does very well and she is never questioned by me. I have no interest in expenses as I have a wife to look after that. I bought into a Thai life and that's what I do. Hardly misogynistic is it? There are plenty of white "working girls" in Pattaya. Extremely expensive I hear. I have as much interest in that business though as you have. That place just saddens. I hope the lady in question can actually fulfill her dreams, and if as you say you came to Thailand on your own, with kids and only a rudimentary knowledge of the country and made a success of it anything is possible. Maybe with your help dreams can come true but it's a big ask.
Charlie *****
@John ********
it was a general statement and the only thing directly towards you was the question of whether you knew the Thai lingo before coming to Thailand 🙃 she's here to ask questions, she has already said she's looking into it, she doesn't claim to know anything yet. I don't know why people have to spout their negative nonsense to people who aren't asking for their opinions. You told her she shouldn't come here because she doesn't know what a farang is....? How is that in the slightest bit helpful? I'm sure as you are living here, with 2 children and a Thai wife, you've probably got something more productive and helpful to suggest than what you did. As for the stereotype, well it wouldn't be a stereotype if it wasn't at least slightly true, would it?

I've actually never heard of single white females working in Pattaya either, you probably have more knowledge than me 😘I went there once about 11 years ago, never intend to set foot in that place again, all i saw was what you wouldn't even like to imagine, and the typical farang that love it. Grim place that.
John *********
@Carley ******
If you don't know even that much I think you should rethink your plans. Sorry to sound harsh but you don't have a clue.
Frank **********
It's going to be a massive change. Especially for the children as I'm sure they have friends at home.. it may be hard for them to find friends here even in an International school.
Carley *******
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@Frank *********
I understand. But it is for safety and well-being reasons. I can’t say much more than that
Frank **********
@Carley ******
I understand. Wish you luck.
Brandon ************
Depending on how you plan on having your kids educated, be aware that it will likely be one of your largest expenses. International schools can be thousands of dollars per month, per child.
Carley *******
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@Brandon ***********
are there no state schools? Wow that’s crazy! I hadn’t found anything about education costing so thank you for that
Brandon ************
The best opportunity would be if you can find a job teaching in an international school, that also offers free or reduced tuition for your own children as a benefit of teaching there.
Carley *******
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@Brandon ***********
ok that would be great thank you. What ages are the schools? I have a 2 and a 11 year old. Would they be in the same school?
Kathalyn *******
@Carley ******
Yes.Regent s school Pattaya takes 2 Yr old.
Mark *****
@Sib ******
all the major international schools are Early Years/Nusery to Year 13, so they would be in the same school.
Carley *******
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@Mark ****
that’s great news.
Brandon ************
@Sib ******
I'm sorry, I know very little about that type of thing.
Brandon ************
Do your kids speak Thai? If they don't speak Thai they're not going to get along very well in a Thai school. The education is also going to be sub-par.

Unless you have a job lined up in Thailand, likely the only way you'll be able to get a visa to stay in Thailand will be based on your kids attending school. You'll also need 500,000 baht in a bank account in order to get the visa and extensions.
Carley *******
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@Brandon ***********
yes I possibly have a job lined up just waiting on clarity and got to finish my teaching course.

My children do not speak Thai no.

Yeah I was aware of the money needed 😊
John **********
@Carley ******
what teaching course are you doing? Unless you have a bachelor's degree your going to find it difficult to get a teaching job
Carley *******
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Kathalyn *******
@Carley ******
You need a degree in education to teach at an International school.
John *********
@Carley ******
Sorry. You're dreaming.
John **********
@Carley ******
you're not going to get a decent teaching job with just a TEFL certificate these days unless you have a bachelor's degree to go alongside it. You might be able to find something out in the sticks but for Thai type wages. Take a look at ajarn.com to get an idea of options and requirements
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