What type of visa should my friend apply for to stay in Thailand for 3 months before marrying a Thai national?

Dec 20, 2021
3 years ago
Jon **********
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Writing a post for information for an older friend wanting to achieve a visa. He isn't computer savvy but has approached me asking about a Criminal Record Check for his visa application? (When I was on them in 2013-14 with the then Thai wife I didn't have to worry about any of it)

He wants to stay in Thailand for 3 months. He isn't married to a Thai national yet but does have his long term girlfriend who lives in Buriam. She has supplied him with a letter to confirm who she is and where he will be staying in Buriam. I have spoken to the girlfriend (she is a long term friend as I speak Thai) but she is as confused as I am. Because he wants to stay for 3 months and will marry his girlfriend during that time, he seems to think he needs a 90 day O Visa. Because he isn't married yet and is only wanting to stay in Thailand for 3 months, then my understanding is he can't apply for an O Visa based on marriage because when he applies for the O Visa here in Australia, he won't yet be married. I'm thinking he just gets a tourist visa and marries her during this time and on his next visit he can apply for a 90 day O Visa because he will already be married to a Thai national.So can someone please help?

1. Because they are not officially married yet or registered at an Amphor, should he be applying for a non-immigration O visa or a single entry 60 day tourist visa and then apply for a 30 day extension at immigration to achieve a total of 90 days?

2. If he is able to apply for a non-immigration O visa, is the Police Check Certificate to be submitted from the Australian Police, The Royal Thai Police or both?
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TLDR : Answer Summary
A person wishing to stay in Thailand for 3 months to marry a Thai national should apply for a tourist visa instead of a Non-O Visa, as he is not yet married. He can then marry during his stay and subsequently apply for a Non-O Visa for married couples during his next visit. Additionally, if he decides to apply for the Non-O Visa, it is suggested that he inquire whether a police check certificate is needed from the Australian or Royal Thai Police, or both.
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James ********
Keep it SIMPLE...

Just get the tourist visa..

Then when in Thailand get married...

Register the marriage..

Apply for non o married to Thai and one year extension of stay by meeting its requirements...

Including 400,000 Thai baht deposited in his name only in a Thai bank account.

No police record search required.

No special insurance other than that needed to enter Thailand with Thailand Pass.
Jon **********
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@James *******
he is returning to Australia as my post says so no need to convert to O visa with bank balances for a 12 month stay. I am trying to convince him that 60 day + 30 day extension is like you say the easiest but he's stuck on a visa that "includes marriage and 90 days" in wording. Doing my head in to be honest
James ********
@Jon *********
cannot get what he wants without being legally married to Thai.

Maybe I misread yoir post...sorry
Jon **********
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@James *******
exactly. Somehow he wants a visa based on a marriage that hasn't yet taken place.
James ********
@Jon *********
impossible. And cannot do the typical Isaan Buddhist Temple marriage with big party...its not being legally married.
Jon **********
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@James *******
thanks James. I haven't lived in Thailand for almost 7 years but it looks as though nothing has changed and all he need do is follow in my footsteps
James ********
@Jon *********
yep...follow your helpful lead.
Jon **********
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@James *******
agree mate. When I married my wife we had the party but then registered the marriage at the Amphor. I was on a tourist visa at the time. I returned home and then applied for an O visa, sold up and moved to Thailand. His intention is to bring his wife back to Australia so the only time he should be applying for an O visa is if they want to return to Thailand on a 90 day or 12 month stay
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