What should I consider about proving the source of my funds for a Thai visa application?

Jan 9, 2025
9 days ago
Jack *******
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Potential problem discovered today. Some immigration offices may ask you for proof your bank deposit came from abroad. Many people use online banks like Wise. But Wise send from their Wise London bank to a partner bank in Thailand, and then on to your bank. So your deposit's code in your Thai bank is not from abroad. Immigration can therefore make this an obstacle - that needs overcoming - to get your visa. Note: not all offices or officers ask for this apparently.

UPDATE: According to others, it seems this problem has been solved by Wise giving an option to send "funds for longstay". If, like me however, you sent the funds before this option was available, the problem remains. You will most likely have to resend the funds from abroad. My local office will not accept the Wise (funds sent) statement as proof.
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When transferring money to Thailand using Wise, it's essential to select the "Funds for Long Stay in Thailand" option to avoid potential immigration problems. Some immigration offices may require proof that bank deposits originated internationally, which can become an issue if the funds are routed through a partner bank in Thailand. While not all offices enforce this rule, being proactive by using the correct transfer option and ensuring proper documentation is advisable. If prior transfers were made without this option, recipients may need to resend funds directly from abroad. Overall, understanding these nuances can streamline the visa process for expats.
Robert ********
I have never used that wise option, but my bank statement always shows “international”. Don’t know what the problem is with your transfers.
Jack *******
ORIGINAL POSTER
@Robert *******
I didn't use that option either in 2019 when I sent the money, and on my 2-3 previous visa applications they just accepted the bank letter that I have had the 800k in my account since X date. It's obvious from my record that I haven't used an agent and that the money is mine as I sent way more than that to buy a house, so I suspect they've found an obstacle and are just angling for a payment.
Robert ********
@Jack ******
Could very well be.

Specially if you can show a bank letter. That letter says that the money came from outside and how long it’s in the account. If not then let the bank write it again.

Or… is it possible that you took out too much during the year so that it was below 400k or not 800k 2 months before the date?
Jack *******
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@Robert *******
No, I haven't touched it since 2019, it's in a separate account gaining a bit of interest.
Robert ********
@Jack ******
Then maybe the bank’s letter doesn’t state “foreign transfer “ or they really just want tea money (which is rarer lately).

Try using google translate app with camera to understand the letter.
Aake **********
When Wise wants the reason for the transfer to state then lonstay or similar then Wise shows that it is a bank transaction from abroad
Terary **********
It's a common rookie mistake.

I have deposits going back at least a year (18 months) so I know the option has been around for at least that long
Tony *********
Wise has had the option for long stay as long as I can remember it's not something new. That option always shows it as an international transfer. Most people already know this and use Wise for that reason.
Pygo ********
Because immigration officers make the rules up as they go, they like to be bribed, but be careful...
Mac *********
Anyone would think we’re not wanted. 🙂 It’s like going through an airport—they always pull someone aside as a warning to others, and it’s usually me. Or maybe the guy just got a roasting from his wife before leaving for work or because a 'farang' cut him off on the way in!
Kim *********
Mac Farland "it's usually me" 😅 Good one 👍
Roberto *********
You only discovered this today? Seriously? It's all good, I think most of this group's members have been aware of this for years!
Jack *******
ORIGINAL POSTER
@Roberto ********
Yes seriously, but congrats on knowing it for years, awesome.
Roberto *********
@Jack ******
Not just me!
Jim **********
That’s not a new thing, been happening for years with some IOs. All you need to do is print out your Wise transfers statement and bring that long with your bank statement, so that they can match up the transactions. Once you provide that, I’ve never had an issue.
John **********
If it doesn't show correctly in your bank then you need to request a FET form from the first bank it passed through in Thailand. There is an FAQ on this in the Wise app
Bart **************
It also depends on the type of extension. For marriage extensions it is not required anywhere, to the best of my knowledge. So if you worked in Thailand, and then marry, you can still stay. Just some offices indeed require you to retire abroad if you worked in Thailand and you can retire in Thailand only if you worked abroad. Still makes very little sense, but at least those on marriage extensions aren't affected by the stupidity.
Alberto *******
Interesting. The fact the money last step is from a Thai bank Wise partner could be a loophole to avoid taxation on money coming from abroad on our account.
Roberto *********
@Alberto ******
Why would you be paying tax on these transfers? Are they untaxed income?
Alberto *******
@Roberto ********
for people leaving in the Kingdom for more than 180 days in a solar year, any money transfer from abroad (remittance) is considered as an income as shall be declared. Whether to pay tax or not depends on many factors. If there is a DTA with your country and if tax have been already paid in the country of origin, which shall be demonstrated, you could not be requested to pay anything or to pay only the difference between the already paid wrt the tax to be paid in Thailand.

On this matter the situation is quite complicated.
Roberto *********
@Alberto ******
Ok. I've lived here for 16 years, transferred money from overseas and never had to pay tax or report, other than immigration. But I've retained tax residency in the Commonwealth, so I'm not liable here. Most people transfer pensions which are exempt taxation
Steve ****
Just include a copy of the origin bank statement with the wise transfer, the wise transfer and the Thai bank. That way you have end to end
Roberto *********
@Steve ***
They probably won't accept that. You may need to get the FET from the bank which accepted the incoming transfer before it was transferred to your bank
Nigel **************
There is no problem as long as you choose 'Funds for Long Term Stay' in the drop down box.
Frazer ******
Thanks for the heads up, was going to put the money into my wife's account
Ellen *************
This isn’t necessarily new- and especially the inconsistency. 👍🏼

When we stop being shocked by it, life becomes much more peaceful. 🧘🏽‍♀️ 😊

The inconsistency is the norm, that’s when you know you’ve escaped the matrix and are living in a real world filled with actual humans. 👏🏻
Ingvar *******
Compare Wise with your ordinary bank outside Thailand, before you use Wise. Much have happen since Wise started, the difference in my own case isn't much, but the speed are Wise's big opportunity.
Ian *****
Use the correct Fund for Long Term Stay and all is OK
Jim **********
@Ian ****
That doesn’t always work mate - the reason (‘Long Term Stay In Thailsnd’) is not always transferred along with the money so doesn’t always appear in the bank statement. Best thing to do is simply print out your Wise transfers to your Thai account, so they can match up the transactions. They are quite happy then.
Terry **********
If using WISE select 'Funds for long term stay in Thailand' in options, for reason to transfer. It should show up as FTT (Foreign Transfer). It does on Bangkok Bank anyway
Lynnette *******
Did a transfer yesterday with Wise. Long term stay. Took 8 minutes to clear.
Paul ********
@Lynnette ******
mine have been delayed with the Plaid bs..coming from US.
Lynnette *******
Paul ********
Plaid is handling security for Wise in Usa...?
Paul ********
@Lynnette ******
they Plaid -Wise told me I had to reconnect with bank ?
Jim ********
You just select the "Funds for Long Term Stay in Thailand" option in Wise, and it comes through as International Transfer
Lyndon ************
@Jim *******
this is what I did. No problems, Bangkok IO
Jim ********
@Lyndon ***********
I kind of assumed that's what everyone was doing these days
Carsten ************
In Wise App you're asked for the reason of the transfer. You have to choose "funds for longstay" and it will be marked as an international transfer. That transfer might need 1-2 days longer than the other options.
J ******************
@Carsten ***********
agree to select funds for long term stay but mostly transfers in seconds in my experience to date
Carsten ************
@J *****************
seconds or next day 2.00pm (Bangkok Bank).
J ******************
@Carsten ***********
only once next day in my experience which is only over 2 years or so but not with Bangkok Bank
Jimmy ******
Incorrect. I have tried that option with Kasikorn & Wise. Still shows as local transfer
Ivan ************
@Ji***
it works more often with Bangkok Bank, even then not guaranteed but most times. If it doesn't come through as international, you can go get the "Confirmation Letter of International Fund Transfer" from the bank it came through, although this is a hassle.

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Greg ***********
@Jimmy *****
then use WISE reason "property purchase". Because that's when you need proof the money came from abroad. If that doesn't work either, the problem is Kasikorn
Carsten ************
@Greg **********
Dee Money is the partner and the weak part of the chain.
Greg ***********
@Carsten ***********
Dee Money is for the other way around - sending money from Thailand to a foreign account. This is, however, NOT the topic of thid thread. It is about WISE transfers and the bankbook code showing an inner-Thailand transfer because somebody ticking the wrong box when WISE asks for the purpose
Ivan ************
@Gr**
Wise were also partnered with DeeMoney who, along with Bangkok Bank, Kasikorn and SCB, handled some incoming transfers for them on the back end. DeeMoney has suspended operations now so that's over, but they were involved previously.
Greg ***********
@Ivan ***********
thanks for the update. YES, Dee Money is bankrupt
Wayne ********
@Carsten ***********
correct I believe if you mark funds for long stay Visa, then Wise sends it directly from their bank to your Thai bank, I’ve done it before and when I update my bank book, it shows an FFT transfer. I believe that stands for foreign fund transfer just guessing on that.
Carsten ************
@Wayne *******
correct. It didn't work 100% in the past, but that should be solved meanwhile.

If it's still marked local, the Bank may issue a statement.
Pertti *************
Mel ******
Have you tried wise? The last time I did my transfer, there was an option that addressed this scenario.
Jack *******
ORIGINAL POSTER
@Mel *****
I used Wise but I did these transfers in 2019 so the option wasn't available then as I recall.
Mel ******
@Jack ******
when I started using it here in Thailand in 2023, it was an option but I have not needed to do a recent transaction
Jon **********
Sounds like something for a

Visa agent
Randy ******
Jon Campbell

But with the visa agent, the money will SURELY come from inside the Kingdom , hence amplifying the issue, no?
Jim ********
@Jon *********
Always one stupid comment! 😆
Carsten ************
@Jim *******
usually that's you, lol
Jim ********
@Carsten ***********
In the stupid comment stakes, you've pretty well got it sown up 😂😂😂
Carsten ************
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