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What is the validity period of the O-A Visa upon first entry into Thailand?

CjandBrigitte **********
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Good day. I wonder if anyone can give me some advise.

We just applied for our O-A Visa and we arrive in Thailand 11/01/2023. We can then stay in Thailand for 1 year/12 months. I read somewhere that the first time you enter Thailand your visa is actually valid for 2 years.I have been searching for the information where I have reads this and I cant seem to find it anywhere.

Can someone please help me with the correct information.

Thank you.
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The O-A Visa allows you to stay in Thailand for one year. When you first enter Thailand, you will be stamped in for one year, provided that you have valid medical insurance. If you leave and re-enter before this one-year period expires, you may receive an additional year upon re-entry, but this requires a re-entry permit as your initial visa will have expired. It's also important to note that the extension process and requirements, including banking and documentation, can effectively facilitate long-term stays in Thailand.
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Robert ************
Robert ************
STEP-BY-STEP INSTRUCTIONS -- APPLYING FOR RETIREMENT STAY AFTER ARRIVAL IN THAILAND: i. You may arrive either Visa Exempt (currently 45-days), or on a 60-day Tourist Visa. ii. Then, immediately after your arrival, you must haul arse to open a Thai Bank Account, and transfer 800,000 Baht into Thai Bank Account (if married, some Immig. Offices like CM, accept Joint Account with 1.6 Mil. Baht. Also Note, that either Passbook Savings or Fixed Deposit is acceptable, but not Investment Account. Finally note, that some Immig. Offices, but not all - e.g. CM, require proof of foreign source of funds. WISE is an inexpensive, easy & reliable service to transfer funds). iii. Then, you apply for a 90-day Non-O Visa at local Thai Immigration Office. If on Visa Exempt, you use Form TM87, if on Tourist Visa TM86. You are required to apply with minimum 15-21 days remaining on permitted Stay, depending on Office (Chiang Mai, requires 21 days). Requirments: TM87 or TM86 (Note: Fear not, only 1-page Form simple to fill out in English with only basic info., name, address, passport info., arrival info, and stated purpose: "For Retirement"), 2000 Baht, Copy of all relevant pages of Passport (i.e. Facepage, and Entry Stamp); copy of TM30 (that is the required arrival form that is either completed by your Hotel or Condo, or you do yourself at Immig. Office w/i 24 hrs of arrival); copy of proof of residency (Rental Agreement, or Hotel Reservation -- some offices may not allow if only staying at a HOtel); and most importantly proof of the money in Bank (Copy of Bank Book, and a certified Letter from the Bank usually costing 100 Baht). Above is all simple and straightforward, so no need for spending money on a Visa Service. iv. If all docs. in order, Immig. Office will put a Sticker in your Passport that you are "under consideration", and a date to return to pick up your Visa Stamp (prior to your Stay expiration). v. Next, when you have 30 days remaining on the Non-O (and your Bank Money has "seeded" 60 days -- i.e. stayed on deposit), you go back to Immig. Office to apply for the 1-yr Retirement Extension. Requirements.: TM7 (Req. for Extension of Stay); 1900 Baht, and all other same docs. as above (newly updated of course). And, you will receive 1-yr Extension of Stay -- usually same day, if you arrive in morning. Note: For both processes above, your Bank Passbook Balance must be updated same date as application, and the Bank Letter should be no more than 7 days old -- easiest just to do both same day just before going to Immig. Office). vi. Finally, you should/must get a Re-Entry Stamp -- easiest/best to just do immediately after you get your 1-yr. Extension stamp. It can be single Re-Entry for 1000 Baht, or 3800 Baht for unlimited multiple Re-Entry. The Re-Entry Stamp allows you to leave and return to Thailand, without invalidating your 1-yr Extension. If you fail to do that, then your Extension of Stay is nullified, and you must start the process again. (IMPORTANT: If you want or need to leave Thailand while on the initial 90-Day Non-O, same thing -- must get Re-Entry Stamp.). Hope that is all clear. (NOTE: Advantage of above IN-Country Method, to getting initial Non-O OUTSIDE Country at a Thai Embassy/Consulate: No Medical or Criminal Check requirements. Only "Disadvantage": slightly less time once you arrive to get your Thai Bank Account Open and Deposit the req'd 800,000 Baht).
Stuart *********
Stuart *********
With an OA on every entry you get stamped in for one year providing you have medical insurance for that time.

If you time it right and do a border bounce just before it expires you’re stamped in for another full year (as long as your insurance is valid). This “second” year is not multiple entry as your visa has expired. To leave and come back you’d need to ensure you have a re-entry permit.
Graham ********
Graham ********
@Stuart ********
I am currently on an O-A visa, stamped in until 31 March 2023. I was advised by Immigration that I just need to file an "extension to stay" (TM7) with associated required documentation (including renewed health insurance for another 12 months) to get my additional 365 days. A border bounce never came up in the conversation.

What is your understanding on the issue in question?
Steve *******
Steve *******
@Graham *******
To get the 1 year extention of stay you'll need 800kbt seasoned in a Thai bank account in your name for 2 months prior to your application plus the 1 years health insurance.
Ivan ************
Ivan ************
@Gra***
that's also an option. If you do that you don't need to leave. If you border bounce you'll need the insurance as well to get the full year, you need that either way. The main reason people border bounce rather than extend is to avoid having to meet the financial requirements with money in Thailand.
Graham ********
Graham ********
@Ivan ***********
understood!
Ivan ************
Ivan ************
@Gra***
you need to do it before the visa validity date. You don't need to leave until the stamped in date, but if you leave after the visa validity date, you won't get back on on that visa, you'd be given only 45 days on re-entry.
Graham ********
Graham ********
@Ivan ***********
does the border bounce extension need to take place prior to the stamped in date (31 March 2023) or the visa validity date (27 February 2023)?
Robert ************
Robert ************
@Graham *******
Works one time, until end of current O-A Visa validity. After that, however,
@Ivan **********
's suggestion is a good one, provided you can afford to deposit the req'd 800,000 Baht in Thai Bank. Then, you won't have to pay the unnecessary and expensive cost of the insurance. That is not req'd for Non-O Retirement. and subsequent 1-yr Extension. See Post below for Step-by-Step Instructions.
Graham ********
Graham ********
@Ivan ***********
thanks Ivan - it seems to me that the "border bounce" is the way to go. I have monies in a Thai bank (living expenses) but would rather leave the bulk of my money in my investment account in my home country. Thanks and a safe & happy new year!
Ivan ************
Ivan ************
@Graham *******
also worth bearing in mind another option which is the non-O visa (without the -A). This needs money in the bank (or income proof) for an extension but does not need insurance.
Ivan ************
Ivan ************
@Graham *******
that's right, that's why people do it, to avoid having to have the money in the Thai bank.
Graham ********
Graham ********
@Ivan ***********
.......so if I "border bounce" (out & in on the same day) I don't need to meet the financial requirements if I have my health insurance renewal certificate for another year?
Ivan ************
Ivan ************
@Graham *******
for an O-A extension you need both money in the bank and insurance.
Graham ********
Graham ********
@Ivan ***********
I am assuming that by applying via the TM7, plus "proof of funds" (no banking requirements eg 800,000), and as long as I have the health insurance renewal that will suffice. There has been a suggestion that I would need funds in a Thai bank + the health insurance renewal. That sounds like "double dipping". I would have thought that having the health insurance eliminates the need for money in a Thai bank. Please clarify.
Stuart *********
Stuart *********
^^^ What
@Iv**
said.
CjandBrigitte **********
CjandBrigitte **********
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@Stuart ********
thank you very much for the information provided.

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