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What is the name of the 5-year visa for over 50 individuals that is not a retirement visa in Thailand?

Peter *********
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Hi all. Am over 50, and from Australia. Can someone please tell me what is the name of the visa that is 5 years, and non retirement? I think ox is for retired people.
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The conversation revolves around finding a visa suitable for Australian expats over 50 that is not a retirement visa. Participants discuss various options including the NON-O visa, OX visa, and the Elite visa. The NON-O visa has lower financial requirements compared to the OX visa, which is generally more accessible for older individuals who aren’t retired. Additionally, the OX visa is mentioned as a long-term option without the need to hold funds in a Thai bank, a point debated among users.
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Mitchell *******
Mitchell *******
Are you meaning the Elite tourist visa? Pretty expensive at I believe 900,000 baht for the 5 years. But if you can afford it, much less hassle.
Eric ********
Eric ********
@Mitchell ******
I did the OX because of the possibility of pulling up stumps with the cash if it all goes pear shaped .. Elite is just a donation ..
James *********
James *********
A pill
Steve *******
Steve *******
Steve ********
Steve ********
@Steve ******
If Aussies apply through Sydney there is no need to transfer to Thailand. They will accept the money showing in an Aussie bank account
Eric ********
Eric ********
@Steve ******
yep, that’s what they told me .. I guess they might ask to see 1.5mill at start of year 6 ..
Steve *******
Steve *******
@Eric *******
yep. Up front the large sum and then reduce.
Eric ********
Eric ********
@Steve ******
yup, done that, I was hoping that a 6+ year OX holder could confirm/deny from personal experience..

at the outset of year 6..

do immigration in TL want evidence of (a) 3mill (b) 1.5mill, or something else?
Brick *******
Brick *******
Yawn. What a bunch of mindless babble. Old white peoples know it all.
Neil ********
Neil ********
I have a non immigrant OX for 5 years and in Thailand. I am 63 so not retired but also not working. Retirement visa has less requirements for cash in the Bank.
Peter *********
Peter *********
OP
@Neil *******
hi Neil,

In the ox application it says retirement documents. How did you get around this? Thanks.
Neil ********
Neil ********
@Peter ********
just told them I have enough money not to worry and they agreed
Peter *********
Peter *********
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@Neil *******
ok thanks..I.know people who have this visa and still working..I will go for the ox visa..
Eric ********
Eric ********
@Neil *******
do you know what will happen when your (first) 5 years ticks over ?
Neil ********
Neil ********
@Eric *******
each year and then T 5 year is renewed for another 5 years. After that a new visa type
Neil ********
Neil ********
@Eric *******
until I do the first one can’t really help but one office4 told me see you in 5 years so might just do that 😂
Eric ********
Eric ********
@Neil *******
yep, I am curious about the actual renewal process..
Neil ********
Neil ********
@Eric *******
you get different stories but figured out you DO still need to do the 90 day report ( don’t forget to ask your first hotel or landlord to advise the TM30 when you first arrive otherwise 800 baht fine like I had) and then at the year you should prove you have the funds in your account 3 min or 1.5 min with a minimum pension or support of I think 75k per month. I have not got there yet nor have I transferred any cash and going back to the UK for 6 months but will figure that one out later.
Steve ********
Steve ********
The OX is the best long-term visa for Australians. No requirement to transfer money into a Thai bank account
Rok ********
Rok ********
@Steve *******
if no need to transfer into Thai ac i am on it …. Please let us know.
Wayne *********
Wayne *********
@Rok *******
I can tell you it's not required I have the OX visa and didn't show my account I got it because of my salary. Its an option via Sydney consulate
Stephen *******
Stephen *******
@Steve *******
Only from the Sydney consulate not Canberra Embassy.
Steve ********
Steve ********
Sebastian *******
Sebastian *******
@Steve *******
So the requirement of AU$
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0 for the application can just stay in an Australian bank account?
Neil ********
Neil ********
@Sebastian ******
you have a full year to transfer the cash across as you can open up a bank account once you have the ox Visa and permanent accommodation.
Roberto *********
Roberto *********
@Phil *****
No I'm on non-O at the moment. I'll probably get the OX next time I'm in Australia
Phil ******
Phil ******
@Roberto ********
are your on a multi entry retirement atm ?
Roberto *********
Roberto *********
@Phil *****
Only $150k
Phil ******
Phil ******
@Roberto ********
requires how much in the bank?
Sebastian *******
Sebastian *******
@Roberto ********
That might be the better option.
Roberto *********
Roberto *********
@Neil *******
Easier to return to Australia and get a new OX visa
Eric ********
Eric ********
@Sebastian ******
I will reach 5 years soon, curious about what will happen then ..
Eric ********
Eric ********
@Sebastian ******
I was directed to my local office (Surat) to present my papers, (insurance, address, $$, passport etc) and was shown papers ref bank balance, expenditure schedule, 90 day reporting).
Steve ********
Steve ********
Rok ********
Rok ********
@Sebastian ******
not on the UK website - must be held in Baht in a Thai account which is a lot of money for just sitting there in addition to transaction and conversion costs.
Steve ********
Steve ********
@Eric *******
What were you doing at immigration? There's no requirement to go until the five years is up
Eric ********
Eric ********
@Steve *******
I was in no position to argue .. 🫤
Steve ********
Steve ********
@Eric *******
Wow! They got that wrong!
Eric ********
Eric ********
@Steve *******
my experience a few years ago: Sydney said no need to transfer the $$ .. on arrival in TL, immigration said .. transfer the $$ 😵‍💫
Rok ********
Rok ********
@Steve *******
interesting. Maybe i should apply in Sydney.
Steve ********
Steve ********
@Rok *******
Only Australians can get the one that doesn't require money in a Thai bank account
Lyndon ************
Lyndon ************
They use the term 'retired' if you are over 50. You don't need to be retired to get one, just be over 50 years old and meet the financial requirements, 800kTHB in a Thai bank. The application cost for the non-o visa is 2000THB and each annual extension after that is 1900THB.

How does that compare against the costs of an OX visa?
Peter *********
Peter *********
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@Lyndon ***********
ok thankyou. I think you are correct. I know a guy who has an ox visa and who is working.
Steve ********
Steve ********
@Peter ********
Can't work in Thailand
Peter *********
Peter *********
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@Steve *******
yes I know. I work here fifo.
Damian *********
Damian *********
You can purchase a 5 year visa through the Thai elite visa mob, recently put up prices though
Peter *********
Peter *********
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@Damian ********
There is an ox visa. I will look into it further.
Todd *********
Todd *********
@Peter ********
Ox is for retirement.
Damian *********
Damian *********
@Peter ********
3million baht and lots of hoops to jump through would be cheaper with Thai elite
Wayne *********
Wayne *********
@Steve ******
I already done both OA now have OX what's your experience?
Wayne *********
Wayne *********
@Steve ******
for what ? I already have my OX visa
Steve *******
Steve *******
@Wayne ********
good luck
Wayne *********
Wayne *********
@Steve ******
different countries different rules go look at Sydney consulate website
Wayne *********
Wayne *********
@Steve ******
wrong. I Had OA now have OX and did not have to put money in Thai Bank. Get your facts correct
Steve *******
Steve *******
@Wayne ********
for the O A you must have 800k in a Thai bank. No exceptions. Yes you have to show another account - anywhere but no Thai account - no visa
Wayne *********
Wayne *********
@Steve ******
no you don't. Australian can leave money in Australia banks
Wayne *********
Wayne *********
@Damian ********
wrong. Can leave money in Australia bank account also I got my OX visa by using my salary which is an option via Sydney thai consulate
Steve *******
Steve *******
@Damian ********
that’s the fee. You have to have 3m baht in a Thai bank sitting there doing nothing.
Damian *********
Damian *********
Damian *********
Damian *********
@Peter ********
that is the visa fee-

not the Thai banking requirement of 3mil deposit and held in account and the compulsory medical insurance
Peter *********
Peter *********
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@Damian ********
I see $600aud for 5 years with a a 5 year extension. That's according to the consuler Web site in Sydney.
Cia *********
Cia *********
Introducing the Retirement Visa
Brandon ************
Brandon ************
No such thing. There's the 10 year LTR but the requirements can be high for some
Jo **********
Jo **********
@Brandon ***********
there is an o-x visa for 5 years
Brandon ************
Brandon ************
@Jo *********
yes but the op said "non retirement"
Jo **********
Jo **********
Peter *********
Peter *********
OP
@Brandon ***********
There is an ox visa. It on the Sydney Consular Web site. I will give them a call.
Brandon ************
Brandon ************
@Peter ********
you specifically said you didn't want a retirement visa. There's no 5 year visa that's not a retirement visa.
Chris *******
Chris *******
@Brandon ***********
elite I guess...
Steve ********
Steve ********
@Brandon ***********
"Retirement visa" is colloquial. There's no requirement to be retired.
Kool *******
Kool *******
@Peter ********
yes, it is the OX type

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