What kind of health insurance do you use as expats ?
Any recommandation ?
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The discussion highlights various health insurance options used by expats in Thailand, emphasizing personal experiences and recommendations for different insurance providers including Luma, Pacific Cross, AXA, and Genki. Many users express their insurance needs based on age, health conditions, and financial strategies, while a few suggest self-insurance methods to save costs. Concerns regarding coverage for pre-existing conditions and high premiums for older individuals are also noted, along with calls for independent financial advisors to provide personalized guidance.
Andrew *********
Lite touch paper then retire to a safe distance .....
Steve **********
I'm 71 and in good health. I'm finding Thai health insurance prohibitively expensive. I'm not rich, but not broke either and $500+ USD per month is more than I can spend, if a company will even insure me.
yes, i have had the same problem, i got denied from a few companies because of diabetes and heart disease, but i take good meds for that, but they don't care, as you say what's the purpose then, if that other replier knows a company that covers preconditions would be nice to know who he is referring to, cheers
But without the details whats the point - I would put money on the vast majority of rejected claims is because people tried to hide previous conditions to get a cheaper premium and got caught out
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David ********
Where are you from?
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Peter **********
I donāt spend a single penny on health insurance. That saves me approx 100k per year until I reach 70. From then on I save 140k per year. Put that in a proper savings account and in the end you can live off your savings.
Now surely some will come up with horror stories about spending millions on healthcare, but no insurance company will tell you about how many of the insured are involved. (In percentages)
Fact is that insurance companies make profit, so the surplus of what you have paid is enough to pay for their expensive offices, let their middle men make profit, pay wages and salaries to their employees and in the end keep their shareholders happy.
Now I ask: What are the odds you will ever claim more than you have paid?
āSurely you can come up with three or five or ten horror stories of people landing in the ditch after getting some disease. But how many are that really? What are the odds? Ten people out of 20 is a big risk. Ten people out of 80 million is futile.ā
having health insurance for me is a insurance to protect my wealth. I only have inpatient though to cover the most serious stuff.
More than one or two cases. I know so many families that experience cancer, heart disease etc. Pretty much everyone I know has someone close with serious illness. And I personally endured spinal surgery.
Above 40 its madness to not have any sort of inpatient coverage .
āAbove 40 you consider it madness to not have any sort of inpatient coverageā.
You donāt have a clue whether your opinion is right or not. Maybe youāre right, or maybe you just have the wrong friends with too many bad habits who are all on some mind altering stuff because they donāt like their jobs in the coal minesā.
āI know manyā is statistical nonsense. I know a lot of people who won the lottery, so not spending your income on lotteries is madness?
I sincerely wish you good fortune and health and I hope you will die wealthy.
For myself, I couldnāt care less about my bank balance when I die. Cheers.
I get that. Do you play in the lottery? Did you ever consider having an insurance for the financial consequencies of having triplets? Did you put enough money under your bed to cover your ass in case the banks go broke?
What are the chances you will ever land in the ditch? Now, offset that against the cost of insurance and then make a non-emotional, well-informed decision.
All those emotional what-if discussions donāt mean anything to me. Surely you can come up with three or five or ten horror stories of people landing in the ditch after getting some disease. But how many are that really? What are the odds? Ten people out of 20 is a big risk. Ten people out of 80 million is futile.
I know someone who walked outside and suddenly was hit by a hailstone. Does that mean you constantly need to look up when walking outside? Youāll soon need medical treatment for your neck.
If you want to, then please do not let my opinion stop you. Just like if I donāt want, I wonāt let your opinion stop me. Itās a free world (in a lot of places, that is). š
unfortunately most don't have the discipline to do at a young enough age to be able to cover costs of a catastrophic illness or injury (including medication).
maybe so , however if you would not " jump the gun " with your comment & fact check , you will find under certain circumstances this is a good option if you are a reasonably frequent transitor !!!!!
My strategy is to have a high deductible. Self insure for routine health care. Keep the insurance for a catastrophic health event. I have a 40,000 baht deductible and, in 7+ years, have never had a medical bill greater than 20,000 baht, usually much lower.
If you are asking about short term travers health insurance then I donāt know.
I heard some rumours but also about smooth and easy payments. They have indeed a long list of exceptions. However, after 5 years the cover is as a newborn. Meaning no preconditions. I agree these could be obstacles.
Correct. The approved hospitals claim back directly from Pacific cross, easy and hassle free.
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Myles *******
Depending on what u need/age etc take a look at Genki. Wont work for everyone but does for me! ā¬60 odd a month and can cancel at anytime and covers pretty much the same as the big boys. I have a referral code should you need
Neil *********
I can help if anyone wants it. Iām an independent uk financial adviser who lives and works here not tied to anyone. So many different insurers available with so many options. All I would say is donāt go with a tied broker who will only sell/advise on their own, every client is different
I have Luma Hi5. Haven't had to use it, but they have direct billing with major hospitals so don't expect issues. Might switch to AXA next year, went with Luma only because it has coverage in SEA, but since I am mostly staying in Thailand, AXA has a better quote for that for me (and for travels can supplement with travel insurance).
I think only Axa Sawasdee had this clause, no? Axa SmartCare is a regular insurance for locals, and you need to stay in country for at least half a year.
Could be wrong, was not reading too much in terms and conditions of AXA.
I habe AXA Thailand as well. Never had any issues with them, very helpful and no prepayment wenn in hospital, just showing member card and all is good.