What are the best health insurance options for expats living in Thailand?

Nov 2, 2021
3 years ago
Pang ********
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Hi there

We have moved to Thailand and I am looking for a good health insurance company for my husband. He’s had BUPA in Britain but it can not transfer to Thailand. Is there any recommendations please. Thank you
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An expat is seeking recommendations for health insurance for her husband, who previously had BUPA in the UK but cannot transfer it to Thailand. Community members suggest various insurance companies such as Pacific Prime, Luma Health, Pacific Cross, and others, while also noting the importance of considering factors like age, pre-existing conditions, and coverage details. The conversation highlights that BUPA has changed ownership to Aetna in Thailand, and many insurance plans exclude coverage for pre-existing conditions.
Rampi ********
Bupa changed multiple times in Thailand ... now AETNA ... obviously ownership changed hands too. I use Aetna for my family ... worked well for me.
Salvador *******************
Arawan Namak is the best It is very serious and reliable and you can find a huge variety of insurance.
Lisa ********************
@Arawan ******
helped me
Nick *******
Hi
@Sa***
. Contact Jamie Edwards at Pacific Cross. UK guy working out of their Bangkok office.

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Tel: 02 401 9189 Ext.248

Mob: 064 971 0540

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Sammy *******
@Nick ******
I know of PCL well, researched it previously, along with most others offering coverage here in Thailand. Overall Pacific Cross has a good reputation, offers variety of plan options, with various deductibles to save on premiums and things like, if I recall correctly, premium discounts on renewal if u havent used the plan the previous plan year. ( more unlikely the older you are). But, they costly, comparatively so, and still exclude for pre-existing conditions and limited coverage with age or weight factors,. Again, if a plan will not cover, for example, cardiac issues because you are on high blood pressure meds, such insurance losesca lot of value to you.
Xaynaly **************
I would like to recommend Luma.

How to contact their consultants:

Line application @luma

Phone number +6624943600
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Sammy *******
@Xaynaly *************
Does Luma exclude for pre-existing conditions and will they offer initial coverage to anyone 65 and over?
Phil *********
BUPA International are highly regarded in the UK. They operate internationally too but their service is not so good in this market. There are comparable (and slightly cheaper) options available to him - William Russell, VUMI, LUMA... If you can email me his date of birth I will get some comparisons for you.

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Phil *********
I've only recently started dealing with them but their credentials seem very solid indeed. If you put it through my company I will be happy to rebate something...
Sammy *******
@Phil ********
their "credentials are solid", not sure what that really means? Do they exclude for pre-existing conditions and do they offer initial coverage to anyone 65 years old or older? -- these are what I would consider two key credentials.
Phil *********
@Sammy ******
All professional healthcare providers exclude pre-existing conditions, as to take these clients on increases company risk for an almost inevitable payout and then increases premiums for other policy holders. It does of course depend on what the pre-existing condition is - you may get denied completely, have it excluded, accepted with loading or be issued with a moratorium period of time.

They accept new clients up to age 74.
Sammy *******
@Phil ********
all insurance carriers HERE exclude for pre-existing conditions. And, of course, neither of us is naive, especially the larger carriers are more than capable financially assuming the risk, they simply dont want to. We also understand that most insurance companies dont make large profits based only on the premium payments they receive.

It's the game of insurance carriers, cover if they think someone might not be much of a risk, dont cover if they are. It's just the way it is when health care is a "for profit" system, which in Thailand, for Thais, and so many other countries, health care is provided. The US is a shameful example of not doing that until Medicare can kick in, but even Medicare is sadly lacking in some areas, and a surprise to many, not completely free.
Dror *********
@Phil ********
i consider doing insurance for thailand with vumi are they ok?
Sammy *******
search this page and other and u will find a great deal of discussions on this topic. in general so much depends on age of ur husband, any pre-existing conditions (which will be excluded from coverage), and other plan benefits offered. Many misinformed will offer advice and make claims about spectacular coverage for inexpensive premiums-- simply not possible-- the devil is in the details, review carefully any plan's benefits and see they work for you, and what deductibles, limits, etc are included. as u may know, BUPA, in Thailand is no more-- it is now Aetna who, like many other carriers, will not even offer coverage to those 65 and older, unless you were with them prior to age 65.
Geoff ********
@Sammy ******
can I correct you about BUPA/AETNA ? They give cover for life if you joined them before 60, not 65 as you mentioned. I joined 20 years ago at age 59 and no exclusions as I was healthy at that time. Now 78 and the annual premium is 207,000 baht. And going up. BUPA gave great service. Not so with AETNA in my opinion.
Pang ********
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@Sammy ******
Thanks Sammy. Appreciate your help.
Sammy *******
@Pang *******
If I can ask, what age is your husband as that number will be the initial key determiner as to what his options are.
Flo ******
Hi Pang! I work for
@Pacific *************************
, medical insurance broker. I’d be happy to send you a quotation with some of the best insurance companies covers for your husband in Thailand. I will send you a PM! Have a great day
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