Answered4 months ago
What challenges did a Myanmar couple face while applying for and entering Thailand with a DTV?
4th time entering with DTV
This time we were asked insane questions
Me and My husband are both Myanmar citizens
As usual, queued in line.
When we meet IO, she asked my husband “what do you do with DTV” he reply “digital consultant” and she asked “you come alone” and reply “with my wife” and call me
“What did she do” we reply “I’m dependent”
And then IO took our passports and made us wait other side ( don’t ask any further questions or documents, said just go and wait there)
5 minutes later other IO said follow him and said wait in the room ( there is a lot of passengers already waiting there) after 10 minutes the previous IO moved us to another room and said fill the forms which describe our information money, job, address purposes of living in Thailand ,type of visa etc.,
After waiting 30 minutes no one asked us any questions and when we asked is there something wrong, that IO didn’t reply.
After more than 1 hour of waiting, another IO finally showed up and asked questions ( IO asked every 1 question pr 1 time and go back to chat with other IOs and come back again and ask 1 more question and then go back again to chat with other IOs)
What is your job?
Bank accounts- Amount of money?
Job contract ?
Pay slip?
And we showed every document needed
IO said if you don’t work in Thailand, you don’t need to live in Thailand
We said we don’t work in Thailand but my husband needs Good Internet as he’s a Digital nomad
IO said you don’t need to apply DTV because you may have free visa since we are ASEAN 14 days free visa
We said we have to apply DTV because my husband have other remote jobs and it’s need to attend conferences every 2 months in Bangkok
We showed the ordinary job contract, pay slip - applied for DTV and additional other digital nomad job contract which need to attend conferences in Bangkok
Very serious question IO said us “do you even know DTV ,what khind of visa it is?
We said my husband is Digital nomad and apply DTV under digital nomad
I am the Dependent and that IO can’t accept my bank account which joint with my husband
We said I applied DTV under my husband sponsorship
IO even shown as type of DTV form and we pointed out those Digital nomad and dependent category
IO said nothing and go back to chat with other IOs and come back again
And then IO asked “why you apply DTV in Cambodia, since you can apply online”
We said we are ASEAN, got free visa by every ASEAN countries and we visited over there and we decided in which country we would like to stay and we like Thailand so we applied from Cambodia ( we got DTV 2 years ago not e-visa/ got sticker on passport)
They are very sensitive for applying from Cambodia and got serious questions ( we visited Cambodia 1 time only and applied DTV from there)
And than IO asked return tickets
my husband said we ‘d never been asked for return tickets with DTV and IO said you don’t know what is DTV and we have to explain DTV again and reply “since we can stay 6 months, we don’t need to decide right now, which date or which country we go later.”
And then IO go back to chat with other IOs and they said no need return tickets for DTV
Finally IO said come sit here to another desk and scan our passports and stamp and we go in
It’s took over 2 hours experience
We don’t have previous Thai ED visa or visa extension or any cancellation and got arrival/departure stampes from other countries .
Got well dressed
I’m just sharing my own experience and sorry for my bad grammar
This time we were asked insane questions
Me and My husband are both Myanmar citizens
As usual, queued in line.
When we meet IO, she asked my husband “what do you do with DTV” he reply “digital consultant” and she asked “you come alone” and reply “with my wife” and call me
“What did she do” we reply “I’m dependent”
And then IO took our passports and made us wait other side ( don’t ask any further questions or documents, said just go and wait there)
5 minutes later other IO said follow him and said wait in the room ( there is a lot of passengers already waiting there) after 10 minutes the previous IO moved us to another room and said fill the forms which describe our information money, job, address purposes of living in Thailand ,type of visa etc.,
After waiting 30 minutes no one asked us any questions and when we asked is there something wrong, that IO didn’t reply.
After more than 1 hour of waiting, another IO finally showed up and asked questions ( IO asked every 1 question pr 1 time and go back to chat with other IOs and come back again and ask 1 more question and then go back again to chat with other IOs)
What is your job?
Bank accounts- Amount of money?
Job contract ?
Pay slip?
And we showed every document needed
IO said if you don’t work in Thailand, you don’t need to live in Thailand
We said we don’t work in Thailand but my husband needs Good Internet as he’s a Digital nomad
IO said you don’t need to apply DTV because you may have free visa since we are ASEAN 14 days free visa
We said we have to apply DTV because my husband have other remote jobs and it’s need to attend conferences every 2 months in Bangkok
We showed the ordinary job contract, pay slip - applied for DTV and additional other digital nomad job contract which need to attend conferences in Bangkok
Very serious question IO said us “do you even know DTV ,what khind of visa it is?
We said my husband is Digital nomad and apply DTV under digital nomad
I am the Dependent and that IO can’t accept my bank account which joint with my husband
We said I applied DTV under my husband sponsorship
IO even shown as type of DTV form and we pointed out those Digital nomad and dependent category
IO said nothing and go back to chat with other IOs and come back again
And then IO asked “why you apply DTV in Cambodia, since you can apply online”
We said we are ASEAN, got free visa by every ASEAN countries and we visited over there and we decided in which country we would like to stay and we like Thailand so we applied from Cambodia ( we got DTV 2 years ago not e-visa/ got sticker on passport)
They are very sensitive for applying from Cambodia and got serious questions ( we visited Cambodia 1 time only and applied DTV from there)
And than IO asked return tickets
my husband said we ‘d never been asked for return tickets with DTV and IO said you don’t know what is DTV and we have to explain DTV again and reply “since we can stay 6 months, we don’t need to decide right now, which date or which country we go later.”
And then IO go back to chat with other IOs and they said no need return tickets for DTV
Finally IO said come sit here to another desk and scan our passports and stamp and we go in
It’s took over 2 hours experience
We don’t have previous Thai ED visa or visa extension or any cancellation and got arrival/departure stampes from other countries .
Got well dressed
I’m just sharing my own experience and sorry for my bad grammar
Answer summary
A Myanmar couple shared their challenging experience while entering Thailand for the fourth time with a Destination Thailand Visa (DTV). Upon approaching immigration, they faced an intense interrogation with the immigration officer asking numerous questions about their financial status, job details, and the purpose of their stay. Despite presenting all the necessary documents and explaining their situation, they were subjected to long waits and skepticism, particularly due to their nationality and the country from which they applied for the visa (Cambodia). The officers expressed doubts about the relevance of their DTV application and questioned the need for a return ticket, leading to significant stress during the entry process.
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Brook ********
Tourist visas
Don *******
It’s not the DTV per se. Looks more like a case of passport / identity being questioned on why you have to live across the border in Thailand.
GrayMo*******
OP@Don ******
I didn’t said and had border run zzzz
Articulate**********
Cambodia was famous for "no documents" DTV...
GrayMo*******
OPArticulateLychee9084 you experienced?
Articulate**********
GrayMouse4613 i dont say you did but then unfortunately it means dtv from Cambodia are more subject to checks
GrayMo*******
OPArticulateLychee9084 yes last 2 years ago we didn’t know what will happen Cambodia and applied there😓
Articulate**********
GrayMouse4613 nope
Fellcor *****
Well as a DTV of your calibre, you aren't staying long enough nor spending enough, not the kind of people DVT is actually for.
DVT is actually for long term (which is why it's in years) digital nomads are the Thais are targeting high value ones. Those that stay in
For your case, you should have just entered and exited on a tourist pass when needed.
DVT is actually for long term (which is why it's in years) digital nomads are the Thais are targeting high value ones. Those that stay in
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baht condos in bkk type. Or drink themselves silly every night by the sea type.For your case, you should have just entered and exited on a tourist pass when needed.
Pui *****
Fellcor Lim you seem to have made lots of racist assumptions just because they are from Myanmar. Likely exactly like the immigration officers did.
Fellcor *****
@Pui ****
Assumptions are what IO has to work with. Who has the time to sit down interview everyone for an hour? Don't you know you make assumptions everyday, every moment in your life? When you wake you brush your teeth, do your think about it? No. It's on auto pilot mode no? That's assumption working. Assumptions save time and energy.
Let's hear from you what the IO officers should do, in a shorter time frame with less prejudice.
Pui *****
Fellcor Lim We're not disagreeing that's what the IOs likely did, but that doesn't make it right, especially from YOU. You seem like you might be Chinese from your last name. Should I assume you operate scam centres at the border, like to "follow the flag" in giant tour groups, like to drag your luggage around town everywhere when you go shopping, and have no concept of personal space or limiting your speaking volume in public, just because you are Chinese? Likely none of those apply to you, but hey "assumptions save time and energy" so I can assume you are a low caliber tourist just because of your last name, right?
GrayMo*******
OPFellcor Lim lol I’ve been staying at
Even my travel hand carrybag is cost over 100,000 Thai baht and spending 20,000 Thai baht at duty free for my make up or present
If you think I’m not spending enough in Thailand, how much is the right amount a DTV holder should be spending?
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thb/ month condo in Bangkok for 2 years already and spent my holidays at Maldives water villa or villa at danang like every 6 months during in my stay at Thailand I travel every beach or resort every 2 months Even my travel hand carrybag is cost over 100,000 Thai baht and spending 20,000 Thai baht at duty free for my make up or present
If you think I’m not spending enough in Thailand, how much is the right amount a DTV holder should be spending?
Fellcor *****
GrayMouse4613 Yes but how many months you are staying there lol? Ah you just gave yourself the answer to your situation. You spent time away from Thailand at Maldives and Vietnam. That's a red flag. Second, we don't know, nor does the IO, that you indeed travel to said beach resort (that contribute to the economy of the country). You could be visiting via Google map for all we know. Everyone wanting something will paint the sky red and blue, add in sprinkles just to get what they want. But once inside, who is checking? Thus the IO check strictly outside whenever possible. It's the final gate of defence.
The IO I don't think are good at discerning real bags from fakes. I mean most Chinese influencers are known to be decked out in an entire wardrobe of fakes when the netizens go detective mode. They are there to determine if you are a risk, real purposes stated and not someone dangerous. I don't think even if you flash your Bentley car keys they will blink.
Well on the spending, unless you gave the receipts, i can say it didn't happen and one of us is right, equal chances,
I think it's about staying (or a desire) long term, with exits mostly to your home country as a baseline. That's what normal dtv do. This ensures a steady steam of income into the economy, a steady job remotely and a desire to stay long term.
You claimed to have stayed for two years in a
You do realize duty free, means less for the country no? A 20k item cost them, say 15-18k to purchase. Your real input into the economy, MINUS the duty free, might be just an injection of 2-3k for all that 20k spent. That's just 2 so-so dinners a couple will spend as a normal tourist, for two days. Hardly worth mentioning.
Lastly I think the conference statement may have triggered another red flag. Conferences are short term. If you need to visit one for work, a tourist pass will do. Why mention it if you are on(going for) DTV? If am on business owner visa in Thailand. I don't tell them I need to go attend meetings with important people (I don't) as an entry point. That's part and parcel of every business owner. Just stating it, seems to be more hurtful to your position than helping.
The IO I don't think are good at discerning real bags from fakes. I mean most Chinese influencers are known to be decked out in an entire wardrobe of fakes when the netizens go detective mode. They are there to determine if you are a risk, real purposes stated and not someone dangerous. I don't think even if you flash your Bentley car keys they will blink.
Well on the spending, unless you gave the receipts, i can say it didn't happen and one of us is right, equal chances,
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no?I think it's about staying (or a desire) long term, with exits mostly to your home country as a baseline. That's what normal dtv do. This ensures a steady steam of income into the economy, a steady job remotely and a desire to stay long term.
You claimed to have stayed for two years in a
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condo, did you show your monthly rent outflow from the bank? Else it didn't happen (at least in IO eyes), you can be staying in ramkhamhaeng at a 3500-4000baht apartment eating mama noodles for all they know. Between the two extremes, if we put you in the middle, you aren't borderline making the mark. A 8k apartment (unless you verified it, I am going to halve whatever you claim) for two is the same as two people renting 2x 4k apartment, which is the extreme version I am talking about. You do realize duty free, means less for the country no? A 20k item cost them, say 15-18k to purchase. Your real input into the economy, MINUS the duty free, might be just an injection of 2-3k for all that 20k spent. That's just 2 so-so dinners a couple will spend as a normal tourist, for two days. Hardly worth mentioning.
Lastly I think the conference statement may have triggered another red flag. Conferences are short term. If you need to visit one for work, a tourist pass will do. Why mention it if you are on(going for) DTV? If am on business owner visa in Thailand. I don't tell them I need to go attend meetings with important people (I don't) as an entry point. That's part and parcel of every business owner. Just stating it, seems to be more hurtful to your position than helping.
GrayMo*******
OPFellcor Lim we didn’t response you since you’re racist
We will just let you monkey on skate
We will just let you monkey on skate
Fellcor *****
GrayMouse4613 I deem it a win for me if you cannot offer any other form of defence. as expected.
GrayMo*******
OPFellcor Lim you are a racist clown
GrayMo*******
OPFellcor Lim lol I’ve been staying at
Even my travel hand carrybag is cost over 100,000 Thai baht and spending 20,000 Thai baht at duty free for my make up or present
If you think I’m not spending enough in Thailand, how much is the right amount a DTV holder should be spending?
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thb/ month condo in Bangkok for 2 years already and spent my holidays at Maldives water villa or villa at danang like every 6 months during in my stay at Thailand I travel every beach or resort every 2 months Even my travel hand carrybag is cost over 100,000 Thai baht and spending 20,000 Thai baht at duty free for my make up or present
If you think I’m not spending enough in Thailand, how much is the right amount a DTV holder should be spending?
GentleHa*********
Thanks for sharing your experience. Sorry to hear about your bad experience. They are just checking on you whether you have relevant jobs. Nowadays agents sell dtv with 50,000 baht. Applicants don’t need anything to provide. Scammers apply dtv in those channels. These are the consequences of those applicants. I do recommend to add more visa stickers by visiting countries like Japan.
Nick ****************
If only they realized that Myanmar was Burma a British dependency. The level of English spoken there could be a great asset to improving Thai standards of English at a much more economical rate than at present.
Shayne **********
It's happening more and more. Immigration hate the DTV.
BronzeK*******
I got pulled off and wait 3hr for 3min examination. What a bunch of shtheads they hire to do this jobs
IndigoStra**********
they want you to buy something
Tang *****
Sounds ominous. Remember you may be flagged on the system now. Next time you exit and return there may be similar.
GrayMo*******
OP@Tang ****
if so we leave Thailand there is no reason to spend our money who doesn’t welcomeBronzeK*******
GrayMouse4613 yeah Vietnam is much better now
krazye******
Well I am not surprised they look at people coming from Scam Center Countries more careful
Lea ******
krazyeyez999 The scam centers are mostly run by Chinese
krazye******
@Lea *****
but they are in Myanmar. Of course locals will work there aswellLea ******
krazyeyez999 Not really. A lot of Africans are there and they even kidnap people from all over Asia to work there or use their accounts. I kow a Thai person who was lurded into it and had to escape
They just use the chaos of Myanmar - has nothing to do with Myanmar people
They just use the chaos of Myanmar - has nothing to do with Myanmar people
GrayMo*******
OPkrazyeyez999 are you the IO?
TaupeSqu*********
They will do anything except address internal corruption, old boys club mentality and increase minimum wage 😛
Anonymous ******************
Mention your other activities that you intend to do during your stay but never mention the work word unless you are questioned how you are supporting yourself. But you should mention your savings and be prepared to show how much cash you have first.
Remember You're dealing with the lowest pay grade government officer here. So keep it simple as much as you can.
Remember You're dealing with the lowest pay grade government officer here. So keep it simple as much as you can.
LongTimeLivi************
I'm really sorry you had to deal with that. With the recent military clashes spilling over the border into Mae Sot, Thai immigration has drastically tightened security and scrutiny on Myanmar passports.
Because of the high tension, some officers could be hyper-suspicious or acting on prejudice, leading them to over-interrogate legitimate DTV holders. It's incredibly frustrating, but the border situation has made them highly paranoid right now.
Because of the high tension, some officers could be hyper-suspicious or acting on prejudice, leading them to over-interrogate legitimate DTV holders. It's incredibly frustrating, but the border situation has made them highly paranoid right now.
LongTimeLivi************
@Wannikea ********
Indeed. Especially with the recent clashes that over spilled into Thailand
Andrew ********
I had the same thing im in a student visa and I was told to get a DTV instead. Their questions to me was about how can I support myself and not work - im a retired veteran US Army they didnt accept that because im too young to be retired im 42 retired at 37.
I had to show my bank account to show I have steady funds to support me.
They called my old school to verify its legitimacy I left thailand per requirements after my first ed visa expired came back to get another visa
I entered visa exempt.
I even had to demostrate what I learned with my first ed visa ( self defense ) this ed visa im taking thai classes.
They are getting very strict with visa and the immigration at the air ports are their own entity from immigration in thailand.
Just to remind everyone IO at point of entry hold authority to deny entry and cancel visas at will
Its good you had all your documents on hand.
I honestly think immigration is killing their own tourist industry because of things like this and its thanks to people coming here breaking thai law and abusing visas
I had to show my bank account to show I have steady funds to support me.
They called my old school to verify its legitimacy I left thailand per requirements after my first ed visa expired came back to get another visa
I entered visa exempt.
I even had to demostrate what I learned with my first ed visa ( self defense ) this ed visa im taking thai classes.
They are getting very strict with visa and the immigration at the air ports are their own entity from immigration in thailand.
Just to remind everyone IO at point of entry hold authority to deny entry and cancel visas at will
Its good you had all your documents on hand.
I honestly think immigration is killing their own tourist industry because of things like this and its thanks to people coming here breaking thai law and abusing visas
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Cordero *********
It almost seems as if they're upset. That seems very frustrating
Pui *****
Thank you for providing such a detailed report of your experience. This always helps to add more data from actual travellers to see if there is increased scrutiny or issues from people entering with DTVs.
DTV_Be*******
Which airport?
Dan *******
Goodbye Thailand 🇹🇭
Good morning Vietnam 🇻🇳
Good morning Vietnam 🇻🇳
Anonymous ******************
“If you don’t work in Thailand, you don’t need to live in Thailand”. Seriously? IO doesn’t know what DTV is all about?
I also had an experience kinda like yours. But it only took 20 minutes. And not that much silly questions.
Must be the most frustrating 2-hour at the airport.
I also had an experience kinda like yours. But it only took 20 minutes. And not that much silly questions.
Must be the most frustrating 2-hour at the airport.
Steven *********
Anonymous participant 560 It’s half right, I think there is nuance in how foreigners understand the DTV and the intent that Thais had in it. It’s not a visa to ‘live’ in Thailand, it’s a visa to allow more flexibility for nomads, health tourists, education etc. Whereas the average foreigner seems to think it’s a 5 year residence visa.
Anonymous ******************
Steven Rostron DTV is specifically for those who want to stay in Thailand but do not take the quota from the Thai local job market.
Thats why I can’t make any sense of IO’s statement “If you don’t work in Thailand, you don’t need to live in Thailand.”
This is just one of the silly questions we have to endure every time we set foot in the country.
This is racial profiling at its peak.
I do hope Thai law enforcement will develop better procedures to crackdown on scammers. For a law abiding foreigner, this is frustrating, humiliating to be treated like a criminal. Every time.
Thats why I can’t make any sense of IO’s statement “If you don’t work in Thailand, you don’t need to live in Thailand.”
This is just one of the silly questions we have to endure every time we set foot in the country.
This is racial profiling at its peak.
I do hope Thai law enforcement will develop better procedures to crackdown on scammers. For a law abiding foreigner, this is frustrating, humiliating to be treated like a criminal. Every time.
Anonymous ******************
Steven Rostron How is it relevant whether there are foreigners who confuse it as residency visa?
This is the official statement about DTV from Thai embassy “1.1. travel and remotely work (workcation) in Thailand e.g. foreign talent, freelancer, and digital nomad/remote worker”
“3. Period of Stay:
Holder of DTV is entitled to stay in Thailand for a maximum period of 180 days. They may apply for an extension of stay at the Office of the Immigration Bureau located at”
“4. Validity of Visa: 5 years”
On the visa sticker it says “Multiple entry”.
Legit DTV holders are working freelance or remote job, applied all necessary documents at the embassy. They legally claimed DTV from Thai embassy. But they got silly questions and treated like a criminal at the airport for what? For being citizen of certain country? This is the frustration most legit DTV holders have experienced.
I am aware that the country is having issues with scammers holding DTV. But does it really justify the racial profiling at the airport?
Cracking down scammers should not involve treating every digital nomad like a criminal, don’t you think?
DTV is a legal visa from the Government of Thailand. And there are digital nomads staying in Thailand with this visa. Many of us chose Thailand because it’s the most convenient in ASEAN to stay in many aspects. And we thank Government of Thailand for this.
But being treated like a criminal every time we enter the airport is not right. That’s what I’m saying.
This is the official statement about DTV from Thai embassy “1.1. travel and remotely work (workcation) in Thailand e.g. foreign talent, freelancer, and digital nomad/remote worker”
“3. Period of Stay:
Holder of DTV is entitled to stay in Thailand for a maximum period of 180 days. They may apply for an extension of stay at the Office of the Immigration Bureau located at”
“4. Validity of Visa: 5 years”
On the visa sticker it says “Multiple entry”.
Legit DTV holders are working freelance or remote job, applied all necessary documents at the embassy. They legally claimed DTV from Thai embassy. But they got silly questions and treated like a criminal at the airport for what? For being citizen of certain country? This is the frustration most legit DTV holders have experienced.
I am aware that the country is having issues with scammers holding DTV. But does it really justify the racial profiling at the airport?
Cracking down scammers should not involve treating every digital nomad like a criminal, don’t you think?
DTV is a legal visa from the Government of Thailand. And there are digital nomads staying in Thailand with this visa. Many of us chose Thailand because it’s the most convenient in ASEAN to stay in many aspects. And we thank Government of Thailand for this.
But being treated like a criminal every time we enter the airport is not right. That’s what I’m saying.
BronzeK*******
Steven Rostron it is literally about softpower hospitalisation and digital nomad visa.
Breathtaki**********
That sounds like a nightmare! How much money did you need to show in your bank account during this entry? And what airport did you fly into Thailand this time?
GrayMo*******
OPBreathtakingEagle243 suwanabumi we just show around 100 k in Thai baht
Trustworth***********
If you don't work in thailand, you don't need to live in thailand??????? Oh wow
Henry ******
TrustworthyRabbit9608 right? They missed the entire point of DTV jesus
Adnan ***********
This is very suspicious experience, something is not clear in your history, usually they never ask so many questions
Adnan ***********
That s what I was thinking? Myanmar passport is the issue
JoyfulPe*********
@Adnan **********
I’d say it’s pretty typical. The IO was just grilling them because they have Burmese passports. Sadly a lot of people with weak passports have to face this, even when they have proper visas.GrayMo*******
OP@Adnan **********
there is nothing wrong in my passport or history No Ed visa or extension or cancellation or over stay from any other countries
Jason ********
thanks for sharing your story
IntelligentG*************
Thanks for the account of your experience. Your encounter sounds exhausting and stressful.
Goes to show even the IO are not even up to speed/trained on the visa details.
Burma x Cambodia. Unfortunately it appears due to your home country and problem with Cambodia you were scrutinised more than most.
Goes to show even the IO are not even up to speed/trained on the visa details.
Burma x Cambodia. Unfortunately it appears due to your home country and problem with Cambodia you were scrutinised more than most.
Tony *********
Welcome to LOS (Land of scrutiny)
Sad behaviour to be treated that way holding a valid visa.
They don’t even trust their own embassies?
Sad behaviour to be treated that way holding a valid visa.
They don’t even trust their own embassies?
Zaw ************
Exactly! And why do they questioned about where the visa is applied from when they opened their embassy in that country in the first place?
AmazingC*********
Some Thais think all of Myanmar is just farms and buffaloes. They don't know that Burmese people can be well educated and have good careers. The first IO might have been one of those Thais.
I'm glad you got out of the situation in a good way. Hopefully this won't happen to you again.
I'm glad you got out of the situation in a good way. Hopefully this won't happen to you again.
GrayMo*******
OPAmazingCrayfish45 yeah I hope we don’t face like this again 😓
Moe *******
How much money did you have to show in your bank accounts? Our visa situation is quite similar (applied in Cambodia and got visa stamp) except we've got 2 years of ED before this.
GrayMo*******
OP@Moe ******
There is no description maximum or minimum amount of money Just write down cash in hand/ banks / others and IO looked in detail
Anonymous ******************
Thank you for sharing your exp. As per last two years situation most of myanmar people choose to apply DTV from combodia and mid year of 2025 they have some conflicts between two countries. However i'm not sure it may concern or not my sincere suggestion choose another country for your next trip. I went different countries every after 120 or 170 days whenever i re enter thailand officers passed me smoothly.
GrayMo*******
OPAnonymous participant 199 yeah we only went Cambodia 2 years ago and applied DTV from there and never go back
Last 2 years ago there is no conflict like this and now may be impacted on us 😓
Last 2 years ago there is no conflict like this and now may be impacted on us 😓
Christopher ***********
GrayMouse4613 In your opinion there might be three 'triggers' 1) Myanmar citizens 2) Fourth entry 3) Been to (and applied for DTV from) Cambodia.
Anonymous ******************
GrayMouse4613 My first exp after 180 days i also had weird experience at Combodia border 😅. Exact time when two countries happened border conflicts. The border gate closed after i just stepped in to combodia Immigration office. One day later they re opened the gate and i came back to thailand after few days. That time i was going with my agent. Even with agency service it took 1 hr at immigration for no specific reason. Just sat at the counter and answer some questions. Since that time i decided next time i will not come there with land transportation. 😅
GrayMo*******
OP@Christopher **********
may be and straight staying nearly 180 days almost 2 years
Özgü ******
Thank you for the heads-up. I am sorry for your bad experience:(
Robert *******
Yep, Immigration Officers doing their job and it can take very long if you think you need to explain the Immigration Officer how to do his job.
Very frustrating when a visitor of Thailand is going to tell an official what he needs to do.
Lucky he just let you wait and not denied you entry.
Very frustrating when a visitor of Thailand is going to tell an official what he needs to do.
Lucky he just let you wait and not denied you entry.
BravePers*********
@Robert ******
you're an all star contributor, that means loser, make adjustments in your life, sip your Chang's slowly
idiots******
BravePersimmon1025 hahaha I also agree w you
Robert *******
WOW two new fans, tomorrow meeting with free beers, dont be late
Gabriele **********
@Robert ******
That sounds harsh. They weren't "explaining to an immigration officer how to do his job". They were quite rightly defending their right to enter Thailand without a return ticket, which should not be necessary under a DTV. It's the immigration officer who was out of line, and was messing with innocent people.Robert *******
@Gabriele *********
It could be the gramma:"we have to explain DTV again ,"
No need to explain anything, just answer the question.
Yep, it sounds harsh, but when you play games, you win prizes.
GrayMo*******
OP@Gabriele *********
if we said “we were told no need a return ticket for DTV” we afraid IO would asked “who told??” Then we don’t know Who to mention That why we use the word explain😓
Gabriele **********
@Robert ******
I agree that the wording sounds strange, but I think it's an issue of imperfect English. Yes, you shouldn't adopt an attitude of "explaining" a Thai visa to a Thai immigration official. Better to just say "we were told that we didn't need a return ticket on the visa".
AuthenticSa***********
You sounds so pessimistic. Is your life going well?
Robert *******
AuthenticSalamander467 fan club is groing to big, needs to much time to give them all a personal answer.
Guess I need staff to help out, how much does a Salamander cost a day?
Guess I need staff to help out, how much does a Salamander cost a day?
Ray *****
@Robert ******
condescending as always, I guess you have no other pleasuresRobert *******
@Ray ****
Every day new people comment to me they do not like my comments.Man I love it, I give advise and dozens of trolls have a job.
Ray *****
@Robert ******
giving advice can be done in a nice way. Just to clarify you don'tkrazye******
@Robert ******
or maybe tomorrow you can give the second good advise for me to see?Robert *******
krazyeyez999 Join the club
Tomorrow meeting with free beers.
Tomorrow meeting with free beers.
krazye******
@Robert ******
I have seen one single good advise from you the other day. I made a big cross on my roof😅GrayMo*******
OP@Robert ******
we don’t bossy with any IO We respect Thailand IOs and their laws
We just explain why we don’t have return tickets that all
Knowledgea**********
GrayMouse4613 so from your perspective respecting means just be a sheep that’s being kept for hours psychologically pressured with no explanations, no help from anyone, then you probably should try being that sheep and call it respect
GrayMo*******
OPKnowledgeableBee6652 we assume why they kept waiting us but this time we want to enter in Thailand because we left our things like pcs for work in our apartment
Knowledgea**********
@Robert ******
looks like officer doesn’t know his job if he asks for return ticket, which is not required, or keep people waiting 2 hours, repeating the same question, it is called psychological pressure and abuseRobert *******
KnowledgeableBee6652 Yep, and that is why you comment as a bee without knowledge.
Well done, man up, go to Immigration and file a complaint.
Well done, man up, go to Immigration and file a complaint.
Anonymous ******************
Thank you for sharing.
May I know if you are entering Bkk airport from Myanmar or from other country? And did you live full 180 days straight in Thailand each time after you entered?
May I know if you are entering Bkk airport from Myanmar or from other country? And did you live full 180 days straight in Thailand each time after you entered?
GrayMo*******
OPAnonymous participant 888 this time from Vietnam
We stayed nearly 180 days every time and out of Thailand for
Previous time no questions except this time
We stayed nearly 180 days every time and out of Thailand for
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days and re entry Previous time no questions except this time
Wannikea *********
Myanmar nationals have been scrutinized heavily on occasion. Let's face it with the internal problems, political and economic refugees, and a dash of xenophobia, it's not too surprising to get grilled.
LongTimeLivi************
@Wannikea ********
I agreed with you but the overseer deleted my comment
Christian *******
Thanks for sharing. Sorry to hear about your bad experience.
Knowledgeabl************
Allways the 4th never the third or 5th
MagentaT*********
I think it's up to immigration officer. I came back through Bkk airport a few days ago. No issue no questions. I am also a Myanmar passport holder.
GrayMo*******
OPMagentaTurtle3644 yesterday My Myanmar 5 friends ( everyone has DTV ) re entry from same place no questions asked because they just got DTV around 1 year and re entry only 2 times
When we got questions our passports were note as ( DTV run 3 times)
When we got questions our passports were note as ( DTV run 3 times)
Luit *****************
GrayMouse4613 Did they make a remark in your passport?
Luit *****************
GrayMouse4613 Sorry I don'r understand, where did they put the text "DTV run 3 times"?
This looks as if Immigration does not like people to exit and enter same day on DTV.
This looks as if Immigration does not like people to exit and enter same day on DTV.
GrayMo*******
OP@Luit ****************
no they didn’t at final but when they asked questions they put on our passports (DTV run 3 times) with notepadChristopher ***********
GrayMouse4613 Noticed that you deleted your post saying only Myanmar citizens who've held their DTVs since the earliest days need worry. Now you say 5 friends from Myanmar were OK because of two factors; 1) They held their DTVs for one year only and 2) They had only two reentries.
Luit *****************
GrayMouse4613 Just don't take Christopher Kilcourse serious, he is just a troll here, best is to block him.
Christopher ***********
GrayMouse4613 If this is the first time this has happened to you there is no reason to fear a repetition. A thread yesterday was full of DTV holders confirming they got zero questions upon each entry. As you will already know, you could reduce your exposure to reentries by applying for extensions. Visa agents can provide assistance if required. There are 'safe entry' services available too.
GrayMo*******
OP@Christopher **********
I just looking possible reasons because next time I don’t want to face like this experience againIf you have any suggestions please kindly let me know 🙏
Christopher ***********
GrayMouse4613 How do you really know the reason for all the questioning? You're only making assumptions.
GrayMo*******
OP@Christopher **********
I didn’t delete any post you mentioned I just deleted this comment because the comments wrong mentioned to other Facebook user ( if you’re not staying straight 180 days nearly 2 years with Myanmar passport you don’t need to face like this)
GrayMo*******
OPMagentaTurtle3644 do you live nearly 2 years straight with DTV and re entry only 4 times?
Or you live few months with several re entry?
Or you live few months with several re entry?
MagentaT*********
2nd time re-entering within 9 months
John **********
GrayMouse4613 I'm really not surprised if you are using the DTV to live full time in Thailand and only leaving to get a new stamp each time that you got questioned so much. The DTV is not really designed for that.
Michael ********
@Gabriele *********
I’ve spent nearly all my time in Thailand since the DTV was released. It’s fine. These people are just making things up and this group is running off with that nonsense. Immigration just wants to make sure you aren’t working locally as all, so occasionally they investigate DTV holders for illegal work.Gabriele **********
@John *********
This is what AI says: "Yes, the Destination Thailand Visa (DTV) is specifically designed for digital nomads, freelancers, and remote workers to live, work, and experience life in Thailand legally. It is a 5-year multiple-entry visa that allows you to stay for up to 180 days per entry, which can be extended for an additional 180 days at a local immigration office."Gabriele **********
@John *********
Well, you can actually stay even longer, but you have to renew the visa within the country and pay more. In any case, if they allow stays of 180 days, then that's how long you're allowed to stay, and I think if you stay six months at a time then it's obvious that at some level you are living full-time in Thailand. I don't think this is against the spirit of the visa.John **********
@Gabriele *********
why do you think it's restricted to 180 days?Christopher ***********
GrayMouse4613 Wow! You now think there might be four triggers for all that questioning? 1) Myanmar citizen 2) Fourth entry 3) Visited and applied for DTV from Cambodia 4) 'Long' stays approaching 180 days.
Gabriele **********
@John *********
Who says the DTV isn't designed for that? My understanding is that it is meant for living in Thailand.John **********
GrayMouse4613 and maybe stay out a bit longer, digital nomads should be able to work from anywhere
GrayMo*******
OP@John *********
yeah we assume that next time we won’t stay until 180 days Thank you for pointing out 🙏
ExcitingR**********
And so it’s starting …
Bob **********
So as I’ve said it’s starting
Anonymous ******************
STFU you idiot.
Chris **********
Anonymous participant 779 how did you get that photo of
@Robert ******
🤣Luit *****************
@Robert ******
You forget those trolls also are talking always about scaring people while in fact the posts are not scaring at all.Chris **********
Robert *******
@Chris *********
Typical, trolls, always comment on the person,No knowledge about content.
But thanks, you just show your incompetence again.
Anonymous ******************
@Bob *********
See a Doctor ASAP.Luit *****************
Anonieme deelnemer 779 The only one needing a doctor is you, allthough I am not sure whether anything can still be salvaged in your case.
Michael ********
Positive********
@Michael *******
There are various posts about it. If you're legit, no issue. How many are fully legit? Here is the question.Luit *****************
PositiveLynx7934 The ones talking about scaring are most obvious not fully legit.
As you say, if you are legit there is no issue, and thus no reason to fear.
Nationalities and patterns might influence chance to get checked.
This particular case might be a combination of several things, living continuous in Thailand, having Myanmar nationality, applying for visa in Cambodia.
And of course 2 hours delay is not a pleasont experience, but it is also not the end of the world.
As you say, if you are legit there is no issue, and thus no reason to fear.
Nationalities and patterns might influence chance to get checked.
This particular case might be a combination of several things, living continuous in Thailand, having Myanmar nationality, applying for visa in Cambodia.
And of course 2 hours delay is not a pleasont experience, but it is also not the end of the world.
Bob **********
@Michael *******
I’m not the one making the posts mate
Chris **********
@Michael *******
Stay in ScambodiaChris **********
@Bob *********
nothing is starting, this has always gone on. There's nothing untoward going on here at all
Andrew *******
@Chris *********
yeah nothing is starting this is normal, especially being a Myanmar citizen you are scrutinized much more.Chris **********
@Andrew ******
exactly right. Same as people coming from any other conflict zone.Bob **********
@Chris *********
How many people have been asked to show everything re entering the other there were post of being denied especially with soft power no way Thailand is going to let you stay 5 years by taking a cooking class good luck to youBob **********
@Chris *********
not worried been here 16 years I’m just letting you know what’s aheadChris **********
@Bob *********
take a breath mateMichael ********
@Chris *********
just another guy trying to scare everybodyGrayMo*******
OP@Michael *******
if you are not stay nearly 2 years with DTV or you are not holding Myanmar passport you won’t get those situationsChris **********
@Chris *********
No, its starting.
Adam *******
Maybe I'm wrong but I wouldn't want to tell them you go to Bangkok for conferences
John **********
@Adam ******
attending conferences is OK but not organising them. Although every 2 months sounds a bit too close to interacting with Thai entities to me, I definitely wouldn't have mentioned it.GrayMo*******
OP@Adam ******
as first we don’t tell them he has another remote job but IO confirmed that we don’t work in Thailand and don’t need to stay in Thailand So we proof that why we need DTV and need to stay in Thailand because he have to attend conferences in Bangkok every 2 months
And then we show again original remote job contract which we apply DTV and other remote job contract.
Tore *********
@Adam ******
A simple business meeting, seminar or short conference doesn’t require work permit in Thailand. Its actually specifically defined as not considered working in Thailand. People travel all over the world for work related conferences without having to get a work permit for it. But I also wouldn’t have mentioned that part.
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Luit *****************
@Tore ********
That is correct, but when you say you need to visit those conferences on a regular basis in Bangkok and that is one of the reasons you apply for DTV, that might sound as working in Thailand.Tore *********
StunningP**********
Thank you for sharing your experience. Sounds incredibly frustrating. I’m so glad you eventually got through.
This is another example of why even after receiving a DTV, the stress that might accompany it doesn’t seem worth it. People keep recommending it, but the experience of application and entry is too inconsistent for me to feel confident with it.
This is another example of why even after receiving a DTV, the stress that might accompany it doesn’t seem worth it. People keep recommending it, but the experience of application and entry is too inconsistent for me to feel confident with it.
Bria ****
I'm in the same boat. Was ready to apply until I saw a lot of the posts on here and I am now really hesitant. I recently tried going to the consulate in Vietnam to ask a few questions and get some in person guidance but they stopped me at the entrance, and rudely told me that there was no one for me to talk to and that everything is done online. The thing with all online, is they can deny you without any reason, and I would want to know and think it's fair to know why it was denied and how to fix it for the next time, if spending that amount of money applying.
Christopher ***********
StunningPeacock6390 Nobody forcing you to apply for a DTV. Others will continue to recommend the DTV and provide advice for those who want one. Strange that threads are full of reports by existing DTV holders who've never faced a single question let alone the 'stress and incredible frustration' you mention. Don't worry, your lack of confidence in applying for and entering Thailand with one won't put anyone else off obtaining a DTV.
StunningP**********
@Christopher **********
No one forced you to respond to my comment. It’s unfortunate that you have a DTV and instead of just using it in the real world to enjoy Thailand, you use your precious time, energy, and desire to be nasty —unprovoked— to strangers in FB groups. You could have just kept scrolling and left well enough alone.Pui *****
@Christopher **********
the groups also have many posts from people with issues. Obviously most people won't, but enough issues are being reported that it should be a valid concern. Just like almost everyone enters without being asked for the 20K proof of funds requirement, but enough people get asked that people should make informed decisions about the risk. Or just like most people enter the USA without issues, but there are enough reports in the past year of people (even from many first world countries) being detained and questioned and having their social media fully scrutinised that many people are concerned about travel there or avoid travel there if possible.Dexter *******
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@Pui ****
Return/onward tickets aren't a requirement for DTV holders. Possession of 20,000 THB cash or equivalent is a tourist visa requirement so does apply. Whether you believe the original post to be genuine or not is up to you. The post I was replying to; (StunningPeacock6390) screams at me as being a 'sock puppet' troll response dissing the DTV.
Anonymous ******************
I suppose they are intrigued because you are not European or America etc. working in Thailand. Going to Cambodia. Not your typical tourists. DTV. Applicant
Greg *******
Anonymous participant 879 I was about to say, I bet it has more to do with Myanmar passports than anything else.
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