What are the requirements and potential issues for renewing a retirement visa in Thailand based on monthly income?

Sep 10, 2017
7 years ago
John ********
ORIGINAL POSTER
Hello. I'm an Australian looking to renew my retirement visa in Chiangmai at the end of November. I will be doing on the basis of monthly income rather than bank balance. Is there a minimum amount needed as bank balance? My income is over 800k per year but I'm wondering if I will be disadvantaged applying this way? Also, though I came here in January, the expiry date on my my third 90 day extension is November 25, so I have lost about 6 weeks. Is this normal? Should I query it with immigration?
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An Australian expat is seeking to renew a retirement visa in Chiang Mai primarily based on monthly income rather than maintaining a minimum bank balance. They question whether a specific bank balance is required along with their sufficient annual income of over 800,000 THB, and express concern about losing time on their visa validity due to a 90-day extension countdown that appears miscalculated. The discussion includes clarification on the differences between an Extension of Stay and 90-day reporting procedures, emphasizing that proper adherence to reporting dates is crucial to avoid complications.
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Edward ******
Simply follow the rules stay happy
Steve *******
November to January would be your last 90 days
Steve *******
If you're doing monthly income, just get the confirmation from your embassy. Then you're good to go
Steve *******
@Jo**
. You cant really lose days on your yearly 'extention of stay' unless you leave the country without a re-entry permit.
John ********
ORIGINAL POSTER
Thanks
Robert *******
I guess with the retirement visa you mean an Extension of Stay based on retirement you got from Immigration. It is or 800.000 Thb on a Thai bank account in your name or 65.000 Thb a month income certified by your Embassy or a combination of both as long as it is higher than 800.000 Thb. You report your address every 90 days, you can do this 15 days early till 7 days late.
Bobbie ************
狭谷 I go to Nonthaburi. They don't add days if late, but do deduct if early. & Tod Daniels told me you lose days if do early at CW. I thought we got the full 90 even doing early (we have lived where doing CW before Nontha). I looked at old 90 day receipts and he was correct, they were stamped from day we went early. It's a 45 minute horrible :( drive each way to Nontha, but has parking at door and in/out in less than 10 minutes. :) If my online would work, I wouldn't mind if we did lose days. I always try, but just get to Pending.
Glen *********
Bobbie Stephenson I reported 7 days after here in bkk just last week, and was provided 90 days from the day I reported, not from when it was due. So I was provided an extra 7 days! I have the electronic printed receipt from immigration for the report, that also shows next due date as above.
Bobbie ************
@Robert ******
. If you go after the due date, you do not get extra days. Your report is stamped 90 days from date it was due. We have gone a day late due to holiday & office closed and reports are always stamped 90 days from and including date on last report. Also your 90 day report dates do not have to match your Retirement Extension due date. The Retirement Extension is always due on the same month, day each year. It is best to go early for them in case there is a problem. You cannot go late for Extensions. If there is an issue or they ask for more info, etc, if not done by date due, you will lose your extension and have to start over.
Richard *******
@Robert ******
I agree, just trying to show their perspective. I have also seen a couple of posts here where people have reported late ( as in after 90 days, but not after 97 days) and been fined.
John ********
ORIGINAL POSTER
Thank you everyone for your advice. Mea culpa. I was confusing reporting periods as an extension, which of course it is not. I merely do another report to fill out the year. A brain fart on my part.
Robert *******
And than they have to make another report because the report date does not match the Extension of Stay application date. Well even going exact on day 90 will give you 4 x 90 days is 360 days, after 3 years it will not match the 15 day early any more. Always go 1, 2 or 3 days late and you can always do one report and extension of stay on the same day a year.
Richard *******
@Robert ******
I think they feel they are getting shortchanged. If you go 15 days early every time then you are effectively doing 75 day reports not 90 day reports.
Bobbie ************
@John *******
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@Tod ********
told me about losing days when we did them early. We go in person on the day due now. I don't know if online & mail are stamped early, but it appears by mail gets stamped when sent to you as you have lost some days and have to do another report. Online never works for us. Departure card from 2009. I am curious if you lose days doing online since you have to do that early.
Robert *******
Ok, but what is it about losing days, you just report between 75 and 97 days later again. Do they think the report must count from the 90 day period (date on the paper) in stead of the date they actually report themselves?
Richard *******
@Robert ******
He means when he reports 10 days early, his 90 days resets at that point, so effectively his last report was 80 days only.
Robert *******
I get confused. You have to report your address on a certain date, you have to report between 75 and 97 days later again, how did you loose days?
John ********
ORIGINAL POSTER
thanks, I did my last 2 by mail, but seems I've lost days there as well
Bobbie ************
@John *******
. When you do your 90 day reports in person, the clock starts again the day you report. If you go early, you do lose days.
John ********
ORIGINAL POSTER
Thanks
Robert *******
You apply for an Extension of Stay (depending on office) 45 or 30 days before the date of your current extension of stay stamped in your passport. You do 90 days reports 15 days early till 7 days late of the date mentioned on your receipt of notification stapled in your passport.
John ********
ORIGINAL POSTER
The date of when I have to apply is what's confusing me. Thank you for your advice.
Robert *******
Well, if you know, why get confused and call your 90 day report an extension?
John ********
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@Robert ******
thank you I know that.
Robert *******
Your 90 days reports of your address is NOT an Extension of Stay. The Extension of Stay is a stamp in your passport with this text inside. Your 90 days report is a part of a form stapled in your passport. 2 total different things. Example of Extension of Stay:
John ********
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@Robert ******
I'm a little confused by your last sentence. Are you saying I get a 4th extension to take me up to 1 year when I do my extension of stay?
Robert *******
You did not loose 6 weeks, you report your address and 90 days later, as said 15 days early or 7 days later you report again. If you go every time a few days later than the due date, you can do 3 reports and the 4 one together with your application of Extension of Stay. If you go every time early you need an extra visit or mail or do it by internet.
John ********
ORIGINAL POSTER
Thank you I realise that. I have been reporting every 90 days but somewhere along the line I've lost 6 weeks. It was that anomaly that I was querying. I've always gone early, but it seems that the 90 days has been calculated from when I reported rather than from the date the extension expires.
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