What are the renewal and reporting requirements for retiring in Thailand with a retirement visa?

Aug 16, 2024
4 months ago
Matthew *********
ORIGINAL POSTER
Can I just ask a question that I'm still unclear on. If I retire to Thailand with a retirement visa through an agency, is that the end of the process. If not does it need to be renewed every 90 days or 180 days or every year. And if that is the case do I physically have to go to the immigration office in jomtiem to do so. If the latter is the case I will not even consider retiring to Thailand.
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TLDR : Answer Summary
When retiring to Thailand on a retirement visa (NON-O), the process involves initially obtaining a 90-day visa, after which you can apply for a one-year extension. The extension must be renewed annually. You are required to report your address to immigration every 90 days, with the first report needing to be done in person. Subsequent reports can typically be completed online. If you use an agent, they can assist you with the renewal and reporting process, but doing it yourself is straightforward if you meet the financial requirements.
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Carole ********
Matthew Emerson when you arrive with your non o Visa you will have to go to immigration for your 1st check in but after that you can do your 90 days on line, really easy to do. Then when we need to get the retirement visa which is then yearly an agent will do it all for you, you hand them all necessary documents and they return it to you the next day . Trust me , the one trip to immigration is worth the rest of your life in a truly wonderful place
Matthew *********
ORIGINAL POSTER
@Carole *******
Finally some great advice

thank you. Do I still need to go each year to immigration to renew it or can agent do that to ?
Carole ********
@Matthew ********
the agent does that for you , just first 90 days check in and then no more
Matthew *********
ORIGINAL POSTER
@Carole *******
perfect thank you
Carole ********
@Matthew ********
if you need any more help just send me a DM
Jim ********
Skip the agent and get the DTV for five years
Ome *****
If I were you, I would stay away from those bloodsucker agents, let's have fun doing it yourself you will become an expert agent soon enough.
Alastair *******
It’s easy.

Don’t use an agent unless your finances are so bad you can’t satisfy the simple requirements. Be warned - the agent route is often endless!

Agent wins, Immigration Officer wins - you simply pay!
Galenus ******
It's all available on Google. Reliable and printable 👍
Alfred *****
Don't come
Lena *******
Well that made me smile. Subtle.
Andrew *********
You could always buy the elite visa am sure that's still bobbing along, it's a tad expensive but shouldn't be nothing to a man of your calibre....maybe you should just stop where you are with family and friends....😏
Mary *******
Todd *********
there are some absolutely ludicrous responses here, apparently from the utterly daft. The answer to your question is simple. With an agent assisted visa and retirement extension you are still obligated to do 90 day reporting IF you do not leave the country at all in that 90 day period. Your agent can handle all the reporting for you as needed and you will never need to show your face at immigration office. Enjoy your time, Thailand is absolutely fabulous
Richard *******
Consider Bali, 1 year retirement visa ( Kitas) that’s it for 12 months . No further reporting.
Sean *************
The problem is using an agent. If you do, you’ll be stuck dealing with the office in the province of the agent.

Just get the retirement extension yourself, without an agent. Retirement visa has been the easiest visa to get compared to all the other types.
Sharon *******
You will extend your visa annually.

You will also have to report every 90 days to confirm your address. After your 1st 90day report this can be done online
Greta *****
Stay where you are
Deb ********
@Greta ****
Someone didn't get their 'Whiskers' today!
Greta *****
@Deb *******
Spoken like a true cat lady!
Deb ********
@Greta ****
😂😂😂 I'm totally a dog person! Don't like cats....
Tony *********
Bad attitude...maybe best forget it and stay happy where you are. Thai people deserve better 555
David ***********
You will always have to report to Immigration every 90 days and renew the visa every year
Peter **********
@David **********
Yeah. So troublesome. You will need at least one hand to open the website and click here and there. 🤣

That’s the most difficult choice, when you’re having a beer in one hand and a girl in the other. 🤣🤣🤣
Dee ***********
@Peter *********
luv it luv it
Trevor *******
You're making problems where none exist.

IF you have the required ฿800,000 then just follow the procedures to get a non-o visa, and then a twelve month extension. There are certain conditions with regard to the funds you bank.

Once you have the twelve month extension, you need to report your address every ninety days, the first time in person, thereafter on-line.

It's pretty simple.

If you don't have the funds, then you'll have to use an agent, who will magic a bank letter to show you have 800k in the bank.

Repeat: if you have the money, DO IT YOURSELF..
Trevor *******
Another facet to look at is, if you start down the agent road, you're likely to use them every year and they cost a lot. I'm here on a marriage extension, but if it were a retirement one with an agent, I'd be in for ฿400,000.00, nearly 10 grand stirling.
Dee ***********
@Trevor ******
please explain how an agent gets 400.000.00
Graham ******
@Dee **********
Probably ~10 years at 40k per year
Trevor *******
@Dee **********
For me it would be twenty five years at, let's say, ฿15,000+ p.a..
Mark **********
Its a literal pool with sand.
Andy ********
Looks like you won't be considering it
Tobben ********
Its not supposed to be easy ? Its not enough that Thailand want you to come to them and use your money to live,they also want you to pay for beeing there and use your money .
Kev **********
@Tobben *******
they want you to come??? Why?
Tobben ********
@Kev *********
Do i really need to explain you that when 20% of Thailands incomes comes from the touristindustry ?
Kev **********
@Tobben *******
18 per cent tourism and some from expats. But they are in no way desperate for expats. They don't need to be, they have enough
Frank **********
@Tobben *******
that is a ridiculous comment.
Tobben ********
@Frank *********
Why,its the truth that you have to pay for everything concerning visas. Thailand earn billions on the "visaindustry".
Pieter **************
@Tobben *******
you no need to come live here, it's your own choice
Tobben ********
@Pieter *************
Exactly,i have better options !
Frank **********
@Tobben *******
you have to pay in most countries I would think.
Simone *********
@Tobben *******
bloody right as well
Paul *********
@Tobben *******
seems pretty easy to me
Jack ********
@Tobben *******
who said Thailand wants you? Don’t act like you are doing Thailand some big favor here by coming and spending some money.

It’s 1900 baht for an extension it’s peanuts
Dee ***********
Tobben ********
@Jack *******
What happend in Thailand during the pandemic when there was no tourists ?
Jack ********
@Tobben *******
nothing outside a few tourist areas that had it tough just like everywhere else in the world.

What are you going to say next that its economy is based on tourism? That’s not true either
Peter **********
@Jack *******
Yeah… In fact Thailand will be instantly bankrupted if I don’t have a beer there tonight.

Funnily enough, West-European mostly eat chicken from Thailand, which doesn’t contribute to their economy. With Thai rice, of course, which doesn’t contribute.

And by some funny coincidence my Nikon equipment says “made in Thailand”.

Thailand is very poor. So poor that the Red Bull F1 team, world champions 2023, are owned by those poor Thai people.

[sarcasm off]

Be happy that some regions are actually very poor. Once they are sufficiently self-providing they will be no more girls for them poor Pattayan immigrants to have sex with. 🤣
Andy *******
Every 365 days after initial 90
Graham ******
@Andy ******
and for the first 90 day report
Brandon ************
A retirement visa is a 90-day non-O visa. After that you apply for a 1-year extension. (Usually if you use an agency, you'll get your passport back with both of those already, so 15 months).

Then each year, you must go to the immigration office and apply for a 1-year extension.

If you use an agent to bypass keeping 800,000 baht in the bank, you will have to use an agent every year, because you cannot prove you met the requirements for last year's extension (because you didn't) so you'll need the agent again to overlook the missing requirements.

If you use an agent along with your own 800,000 in the bank, then you don't have to use an agent again each year and can do it yourself in following years.
Vin *********
@Brandon ***********
Or a non-oa.

And not a 90 day visa. Non-o and non-oa are one year. 90 day reporting online, and each year an office visit to extend.
Brandon ************
@Vin ********
If someone is asking about a retirement visa with an agency, they are not talking about non-OA. They are talking about coming to Thailand and using an agent to get a non-O.
Marty *********
@Vin ********
The OA is a 1 year multi entry visa. The O is a 90 day visa. When the visas expire you then extend them (not renew) 1 year at a time.
Taz **********
@Brandon ***********
you are not stuck with an agent, my friend used an agent, then when he did his second extension he f do I’d it showing 65,000 baht per month income for the previous 12 months into his Thai bank account, I’ve also seen some comments on post previously where others have done the same.
Brandon ************
@Taz *********
That will depend on the immigration office, because almost all immigration offices require you to submit a 12 month bank statement with your extension application, and they will look back at the 12 months to ensure you kept your bank account at 800,000 for 3 months after you received your extension and did not let it drop below 400,000 at any point the remainder of the year. People have been denied their extension because they accidentally let the account drop below 400,000 and brought it back up all within the SAME DAY, but because it dropped below 400,000 for even a few minutes, their extension was denied and they had to leave Thailand start over with a new non-O visa.
David ********
@Brandon ***********
that would be the first bank anywhere in the world that was even able to show “hourly” balances!

Come on now!!
Taz **********
@Brandon ***********
another way to do it is once you start with an agent, use the 65,000 monthly income or deposit your 800,000

At extension use your agent showing the actual funds in your bank for the previous 12 months

Then next extension do it yourself

It’s not that hard

Only ppl who can’t think outside the box or listen to others saying they will be stuck with an agent

Also, keeping the funds in your own bank in your home country earnings interest, you will earn enough interest at the moment to cover the agents fees for the yearly extension

However if you keep the money in a Thai account you will earn f all interest & when you die 🤔 who gets the funds held in Thailand 🤔🤔🤔
Robin ********
@Taz *********
Thanks Taz. Very helpful.
Richard ********
@Brandon ***********
you only need to keep the 800k in the account if you intend to use that process. If you intend to do the 65k/month then you can remove it immediately. At least that is what I was told and did after it was issued and nothing was said. Mind you I moved about 3 million through my account that year with building, a car and bike etc.
Brandon ************
@Richard *******
Then that's just your single immigration office, because as I said, the requirement for an extension using the banked money method is that you keep your balance at 800,000 for 3 months after you receive it and never let it drop below 400,000. That's the requirement for the LAST extension before switching. If you didn't meet those requirements they could technically say you were on overstay as of the day your balance dropped below the required amount, because that was the requirement for you to be allowed in Thailand during the previous year. I've never heard of them doing that to anyone, but have heard of them denying lots of people their next extension for breaking the terms of their previous one.
Peter **********
@Brandon ***********
I was told exactly this by the IO. You must keep your seasoning money in the bank for the required period, or else… No matter which method you intend to use next year.

The way to get rid of shady agents is to already have the seasoning done when applying the 2nd year, and nonetheless use an agent for the 2nd year because they are the only ones who can “prove” seasoning after the first extension.

Then, at your 3rd extension you can demonstrate seasoning with your own account and choose your appropriate funding method.

Basically, once a shady agent, always a shady agent. And pray that they don’t retire in the process.
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