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What are the implications of overstaying a visa in Thailand by one day due to incorrect immigration stamping?
overstayThai visa rulesNON-O visaborder runimmigrationvisa extensionHua Hin immigration90-day reportingMukdahan
Aug 8, 2023
3 years ago
Jeffrey **********
ORIGINAL POSTERHad fun at the border yesterday the 7th. Went to stamp Out and stamp in for another 90 days. Immigration at the crossing said I was overstay 1 day and Mukdahan had used the wrong stamp. Fine for wrong stamp and fine for 1 day overstay. First in 27 years.
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The post describes the author's recent experience with immigration in Thailand, where they were fined for overstaying their visa by one day due to receiving the wrong stamp at Mukdahan. The conversation discusses the responsibilities of expats in verifying their immigration stamps, the procedures for 90-day visa reports, and the implications of overstaying a visa, including fines. Additionally, members of the community suggest applying for visa extensions online and comment on the need for careful planning when it comes to visa renewals and border runs.
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Tyler *******
As far as I know, you also need to stay overnight in the border-run country. You can't leave and come back on the same day.
Paul *******
@Tyler ******
If a non O multi entry, usually you can come back the same day, but ideally a night or two spent away is better.Tyler *******
@Paul ******
good to know!Reply to
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Keith *********
Moving in between ubon and mukdahan on the 16th sept. Is mukdahan the best way to go in the area for a order run
Michael **********
Officers did a bad job but you guys could also leave the country a day earlier or 2. There's a sxxtload of people who got issues cuz they booked the very last day and had problems with the airlines or small health issues. ps: as far as I know there's no fine to pay if you have just a single day of overstay
Paul *******
@Michael *********
Exactly, me either.Paul *******
@Michael *********
Exactly. Always leave a day or two earlier than the last day.Michael **********
@Paul ******
I can understand people on a short holiday (so that you try to stay there as long as possible) but I really don't understand the difference for people who are based here, that's something really stupid to meReply to
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Ian ********
they was going to fine me for 15 minutes overstay i was in the immigration cue at midnight got threw at 00.15 am 🙂
Olivier ***************
What type of Visa?
Garry ******
What type of visa gets you 90 days by the way?
Graham ******
@Garry *****
A multi-entry Non-O based on marriage I would think (available from Savannakhet Consulate which is in Laos adjacent to Mukdahan)Garry ******
@Graham *****
thxReply to
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Paul *******
Aha. Perhaps you should have left a day or two earlier. I wouldn't take the risk of leaving on the last day.
Paul *******
@Brown *******
Yes correct.Paul *******
@Brown *******
Well, there's always some small risk, not zero risk. However, provided the date was stamped properly and you know you can make it to the border/yr flight on time, then leaving on the last day is usually no issue.Brown ********
@Paul ******
ok I see what you mean. Thought you meant the actual leaving but you're saying not getting to the airport on time etc. So yes in this regard you're rightReply to
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Brown ********
@Paul ******
there's 0 risk leaving on the last day under normal circumstances. This guy's only mistake was not standing there to count out the days. I doubt many of us would think of doing that. I just check it's the right monthReply to
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Colin ********
I think that's, a common scam, same for me and I have never overstayed in 20 years.
David ***********
You got fined for the immigration using the wrong stamp how crazy is that, how Thai make money
Mark *******
@David **********
OIT Only In ThailandBrown ********
@David **********
yes this is just dealing with a $hit human on this occasion. Any decent person wouldn't have issued the fineReply to
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Tony *******
Back to kinder to learn 1-30
Daniele ***********
Never had a fine for 1 day overstay
Paul *******
@Daniele **********
Whether you copped a fine or not isn't the point. Having an overstay is something to avoid.Graham ******
@Daniele **********
Have you ever left on one day overstay by land? That's why.Brown ********
@Daniele **********
I unfortunately copped 2. I definitely stood in the wrong line on both occasions. Both women mind you so I definitely join the male officer cues these daysReply to
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Scott ********
How embarrassing
John *******
Yeah well nothing changes in thailand same same but different 🤣🤣🤣Chohk di
Maksim ********
Never late for overstay
Joe **************
You always have to check the stamped data yourself at Immigration to see if the data is really correct. Actually, one could assume that everything is correct, but in Thailand a lot is a matter of luck.....🤣🤣🤣
Brad *******
@Joe *************
very good idea 👍🏼. I’ve not paid much attention to this in the last 5 years. Case in point got my attention. Thanks all for sharingReply to
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John ******
So you had to pay for some other persons error, is that correct?
Jeffrey **********
ORIGINAL POSTER@John *****
yes, I was fined for the immigration officials mistakeJohn ******
Welcome to Thailand lol
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Brown ********
You know considering alot of visa stuff is up to the discretion of the officer you deal with, you'd have to be a real @#$@ of a human to not exonerate the fine when you just followed the stamp that was incorrectly done. Especially seeing alot of officials at the airport waiver the fine for a 1 day overstay.
Graham ******
@Brown *******
The <24 hour overstay waiver is only available at an airport. You always get fined at land borders. The date in the computer system was probably correct so the real @#$@ of a human was doing what the system demanded.Brown ********
@Graham *****
fair enough. Still a @#$@ act if you ask meReply to
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Peter *******
Need to check yourself, can't trust what they stamp
Greg ************
The Immigration Official was correct in this instance. You were on your 91st day.
A common mistake made by a lot of people is to think that their day of arrival is day 0. It is not, the day you arrive is day 1, therefore the 7th of August was your 91st day.
Think of it if as if you were on a day trip, you cannot enter the country for 0 days. Even if you only entered the country for 4 hours it would be classed as 1 day.
A common mistake made by a lot of people is to think that their day of arrival is day 0. It is not, the day you arrive is day 1, therefore the 7th of August was your 91st day.
Think of it if as if you were on a day trip, you cannot enter the country for 0 days. Even if you only entered the country for 4 hours it would be classed as 1 day.
Vernon *********
@Greg ***********
He went to Mukdahan on 9th May to do a border bounce, coming back into Thailand the immigration officer stamped him in until 7th August but it should have been 6th August. So when he went to do a border bounce yesterday it was a one day overstay.Greg ************
@Vernon ********
ahh my apologies, yes I see. I was mistaking the stamp given on the 9th of May for his exit stamp yesterday. I’ll go back to sleep now 😴Reply to
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Vernon *********
Vernon *********
@Greg ***********
Yep, he was given wrong date stamp, should have been 6th August.Greg ************
@Vernon ********
I’m still confused. He says he was at the border yesterday to stamp out and stamp in. Both would have been the 7th.John **********
@Greg ***********
but the 7th stamp was wrong, it should have been the 6th. A classic example of why you always need to check your stamp, it's your responsibility not the immigration officer that makes a mistake.Reply to
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Vernon *********
Greg RichardsonI think he knows that, the trouble is the Immigration officer did not! He was given 91 days stamp instead of 90 days!
Brown ********
@Greg ***********
well seriously if the immigration officer he dealt with yesterday was a decent human they wouldn't have fined him seeing he actually hit the border on the day he was stamped.Reply to
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Vernon *********
You been here 27 years but still don't know you need to check everything yourself!
Jeffrey **********
ORIGINAL POSTER@Vernon ********
I always enjoy something newReply to
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Rob *********
Guys I am worried because the last 3 months report (I have to visit inmigrantion every 3 months), immigration in HUA HIN did not want to stamp my passport, they said that it is not necessary , is it true? Will I have issues when leaving the country (I have an education visa that expired at the end of September). Thanks
Paul *******
@Faye ********
I have too, except one time I think. That's why I said, most of the time you get a piece of paper. Occasionally, they forget.Rob *********
@Paul ******
They always give me the paper and sign or stamp my passport.Reply to
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Paul *******
@Rob ********
No one will ask you for that at the border. Did you ever get your report done around 90 days from the last one (up to 7 days afterwards is fine too)?Rob *********
@Paul ******
I did this report twice , 3+3 , but the next one on 8 July they said no need , if it is correct is fine, thanks.Reply to
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Paul *******
@Rob ********
Absolutely no issues. Just follow what's on the paper but for regular travelers as long as you leave once every 90 days, no need to ever do a report.Rob *********
@Paul ******
It means that this last report is enough? But the report said they need to go again on 8 July, quite confusing. ThanksReply to
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Paul *******
@Faye ********
They don't always give you a piece of paper, though generally they doFaye *********
@Paul ******
always been given a piece of paper with the information when reporting in person.Rob *********
@Paul ******
The last paper I have , I was there that day and they said no need no need and they did not do anything, Can I have problems when leaving in September?Rob *********
Is there someone I can ask (professional advice ?).
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Faye *********
@Rob ********
they don't stamp your passport for a 90 day report in country, they will attach a piece of paper that states.when your next report is dueRob *********
@Faye ********
Ok, sorry I explained wrong , I meant that, they did not do anything, they told me that no need to report the last three months (in Hua Hin immigration), no paper , no sign, no stamp.Henrik ****
@Rob ********
, no reason to worry if you leave the country before your visa expires, but as always no guarantee...Rob *********
@Henrik ***
Two stories happened to me, the new passport and the last 90 days report, sorry to mix both.Rob *********
@Henrik ***
But the visa is in an INVALID and broke (my embassy will break the corners) passport. Is it ok? I have no time to go back hua hin and move my visa to the new passport, that's why :)Henrik ****
@Rob ********
, that is another story, but probably no big issue either as long as you bring both old and new passport...Reply to
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Henrik ****
May 23 days, June 30 days, July 31 days, Aug 7 days. Total of 91 days.
Jeffrey **********
ORIGINAL POSTER@Henrik ***
I just didn't know it was my job to double-check the immigration officer's workReply to
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Michael ********
Never there fault is it 555.
I had a red light ticket both photos showed amber when i questioned it they said two ambers equals red, pay the fine 555
I had a red light ticket both photos showed amber when i questioned it they said two ambers equals red, pay the fine 555
Paul *******
@Michael *******
That's weird. The previous cameras they had on motorway 7 to Pattaya have been removed and I always go over the speed limit haven't seen a ticket in years.Paul *******
@Michael *******
Are they issuing tickets again? I haven't heard of traffic tickets being issued since before CovidMichael ********
@Paul ******
oh yes they are issuing them had three speeding tickets Bangkok to Pattaya highway. Wish my mates who visit would stay somewhere else.Reply to
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Brown ********
@Michael *******
so youd have fined him too even though the only mistake he made was not bother to count the days to see the error? Nice bloke you must beMichael ********
@Brown *******
how the hell did you work that out grab a coffee mate . Was immigrations fault obviously and any reasonable officer would have not bothered with fine or spoke to his superior. Was laughing at typical civil servant mentality and comparing what happened to me with recent traffic ticket.Brown ********
@Michael *******
oh ok. I read it wrong. I see now. ApologiesReply to
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Av **********
Universe tax
Håkan *******
Just wonder.
Non-o
Why not apply for 90 days by internet?
Non-o
Why not apply for 90 days by internet?
Wylie *******
@Håkan ******
you're referring to the 90 day report, which applies to the non-o obtained inside of thailand. I assume the op has a 1 year multiple entry non-o visa obtained outside of thailand. Per that visa you only get stamped in for 90 days and have to leave the country.Håkan *******
@Wylie ******
Thanks for clarify.I non-o is made in thailand you mean no problem with 90 day reporting by internet?
Wylie *******
@Håkan ******
also the 90 day report isn't "applying" for another 90 days. It's simply reporting where you are staying and is not the same as how many days you were stamped in for, or allowed to stay.Håkan *******
Wylie *******
@Håkan ******
the TM30 is the responsibility of the homeowner to report that a foreigner is staying on their property. The TM47 is for the foreigner to notify that they have stayed 90 days. Two different forms for different purposes, although they seem similar, and different people responsible for filing them.Håkan *******
@Wylie ******
i know.Just get back from Sweden and we go immigration to make TM30 but officer say no need.
I/we have always made that when I come from abroad.
6-8 times/year.
But this time different
Wylie *******
@Håkan ******
I've only bothered to do the TM30 once when I first move into a new condo, and don't really care if a hotel files one or not. In Chiang Mai they've never seemed to care since it's the same place. At most they just updated the TM30 when I was at immigration for something else that required it. I believe other offices may be more strict about it.Wylie *******
@Håkan ******
Don't try to figure out the why when it comes to all the unnecessary duplication of paperwork, forms, and procedures in Thailand. They love their paperwork and it will just drive you crazy. It is what it is.Steve **********
@Wylie ******
accept, smile !Wylie *******
@Håkan ******
correct. The 90 day report is for anyone that stays more than 90 days in country and is a completely different topic. With the multiple entry non-o visa obtained outside of thailand (at least the one in Savannakhet) you only get stamped in for 90 days so do not need to worry about the 90 day report.Reply to
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Henrik ****
@Håkan ******
, you mean Non-O extension?Reply to
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