What Are the Advantages of Non-O Visas for Dependents vs. Student Visa for a Child in Thailand?

Jul 22, 2020

4 years ago

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Question about different types of Non-O...

We (family of 3) are getting ready for applying for CoE and accompanying visa.  I'm getting a WP3 which will allow me to apply for a Non-B visa and eventually get my work permit.

My wife and daughter have two options:

* Apply for Non-O based on being my dependents

* Daughter applies for Non-ED (student visa), and wife applies for Non-O based on being our daughter's guardian (daughter is 9 years old)

Our daughter will attend a private Int'l School in Thailand.  She qualifies for a Non-ED visa, but she can also attend school on basically any visa (e.g. Elite).  

What I know from the school is that with the Non-ED/Non-O (student+guardian) daughter+wife have to do 90-day reporting, but they don't actually have to do it in person (which is good b/c daughter doesn't miss a day of school for this bogus).  

What about if they got Non-O visas based on being my dependents?  Would the same thing apply? Or would they have to do 90-day border bounces like me with my Non-B (once amnesty ends)?

Is there any advantage to the student+guardian option, compared to the "dependents of WP holder" option?

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This post discusses the visa options for a family of three, where the primary applicant will hold a Non-B visa while the wife and daughter consider applying for Non-O visas as dependents or a combination of Non-ED for the daughter and Non-O for the wife as guardian. The discussion includes implications for 90-day reporting, extensions of stay, and the requirements based on staff employed in Thailand.

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Benjamin ******

I'm going to shut this post down:

1. To return to Thailand, you'll have to prove to the Thai government that your return is "urgent".

2. You can find the specific steps to return to return to Thailand by contacting your local Thai consulate

3. If you need more advice about how to return, do a search for a Stranded Thai Facebook group, and they can help you better.

Good luck.

4 years ago

Nicholas *********

So you are not in Thailand now ? When are you thinking of coming? 🤔

4 years ago

Yoel *****

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In Europe now, will come as soon as I have all paperwork in place.

4 years ago

Benjamin ******

Does it matter when the OP is planning on coming?

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James ********

Remember there are no adjacent SE Asian land borders with Thailand open now.

And with your daughter in an International school, your wife could seek a Non O Guardian visa....with a deposit of 500,000 Thb in a Thai bank account.

4 years ago

Yoel *****

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Sorry, I mixed up "extension" and "permit to stay". With 1 staff, we could still all go (WP-holder plus 2 dependents), but we'd have to border-bounce every 90 days to get another permit to stay. RIght?

4 years ago

Robert *******

Yes with 1 staff you all leave Thailand within 90 days and apply for a new visa at a Thai Consulate, come back for another 90 days

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Yoel *****

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I didn't realize that! I thought with 4 Thai staff I get 1yr extension, and with 1 Thai staff I get 90day extension.

But if I understand you correctly, my wife+daughter can go as my dependents only with 4 Thai staff. With 1 staff, it's only for myself?

4 years ago

Robert *******

With 1 staff there is no extension at all,

They only option is to apply for a 1 year Extension of Stay and meet all requirements,

4 years ago

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Robert *******

This means the only option is for your daughter to apply for her own Non Immigrant ED visa, for your wife to be depending (guardian) on your daughter who studies in Thailand,

And for you to leave every 90 days the country for a new visa or a new 90 day period of stay

4 years ago

Robert *******

That changes the subject quickly.

No extension of stay for you and for your family as you do not have Thai staff. The family can not apply for an Extension of Stay based on your long stay as dependent,

4 years ago

Yoel *****

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Thanks. With only one Thai employee in my company, I think extension of stay is only 90 days, right? And that would be for all of us, and after 90 days we'd have to border bounce (assuming no amnesty then etc.)

With student/guardian option though, extension of stay would be 1 year, I think, so this would be better for them.

Am I getting this right?

4 years ago

Robert *******

As they will get a Single Entry visa and it will be used on entry it does not matter for what reason it is applied for, only for yourself it needs to be to work inside Thailand.

Before the 90 days, which they get on entry you all have to apply for the Extension of Stay based on working, dependent or study,

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