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Is showing 800,000 baht in a Thai bank statement necessary when applying for a Non-O visa?

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Feb 14, 2022
3 years ago
Bryn ********
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Is it necessary to have your Thai bank statement or passbook showing 800,000 in the bank on the day you apply for the Non-O?
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To apply for a Non-O visa in Thailand, it is necessary to show 800,000 baht in your bank account at the time of application. The bank book must be updated on the application day, and you also need a bank letter certifying the funds have been there for the required duration. There are different rules regarding the source of funds, particularly that for retirement extensions using the 800,000 baht requirement, the money does not have to be transferred from abroad if you initially entered Thailand on a Non-O visa. However, if you plan to qualify via monthly transfers, those funds must indeed originate from outside Thailand.
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Marie *****
Yes you have to. Elite Visa can be an option to avoid holding 800,000 THB half the year into your bank account to renew your retirement visa. However, I admit the initial cost of it is higher. Just mentioning it, if you want to consider your options
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Bryn ********
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Early this morning my gf went to the bank passbook box outside the bank. Entered the passbook (like you’d enter a Visa card). The passbook was updated. Did not do a deposit or withdrawal. When Immigration opened they were as happy as could be with the update. Easy peasy.
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Lai *************
800,000 what currency ?
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Peter *******************
@Lai ************
 seriously ?
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Peter *******************
yeah, but lot less than Thai Elite, Smart Visa I, etc… and its just a guarantee, so no need to spend it, if your not able to show 800k, I understand why Thailand would question why anyone should come here to retire… better just stay where one is
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Lai *************
@Peter ******************
, yea I’m serious if USA 🇺🇸 currency it’s almost a Million. Not everyone in USA is a Millionaire.
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Peter *******************
@Lai ************
 you know what group your posting in ? its not necessary to state currency when its 800k we are referring to
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Lai *************
@Peter ******************
, I see where your coming from. 800,000 Bhat that is still 24k USA. But international flight ✈️ or domestic only allows less than 10k.
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Peter *******************
@Lai ************
 in the bank, not in cash
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Lai *************
@Peter ******************
, geez 24k in the bank that is still a lot of $$
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Andrew ********
As they say, statement and letter from Bank plus anything else they ask for. Not all offices are the same. Easy when you have all the paperwork.

Bank pass book with a transaction updated on the same say as visiting office.
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Scott *******
Read all these comments and confused. Is it true that if I pay
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thb into my account every month, that I can extend my visa after the initial one year?
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Scott *******
Francis, Thanks. Can I use online banking app and print out statement with all payments going into the account?
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Kool *******
@Scott ******
 that doesn't work. They all have to come from the bank, and on bank letterhead. Immigration knows how easy it is to create fakes from you doing this yourself. Not saying you would, but if there is a possible way to cheat someone will try it. That is why lots of embassies quit issuing notarized income letters. Thai immigration starting requiring that the embassy check if in fact what people declared as income was really truthful, as all the embassy required that you sign the letter in front of them, not concerned at all if it was in fact accurate. Immigration knew lots were wrongly stating what they actually earned, purely to meet immigration requirements. Now it is the same with statements showing transfers from overseas. They have to come from the bank. Not printed from your account data online.
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@Scott ******
 yes but you Can show the proof of the transfert every mouth
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Scott *******
Thank you Nick. Ok that’s not a problem for me then. I can meet that criteria using WISE and Bangkok Bank. Cheers buddy 👍🏻
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Nick ************
@Scott ******
 that is correct but it has to show as a transfer from outside of Thailand. That is what can be difficult. Money transfers often go to a Thai bank first and then on to yours which does not qualify.
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Andrew *******
Are they really strict to ensure the funds came from Abroad?

What if the funds came from my wife’s account, and those funds in the wife’s account came from abroad?
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Nick ************
@Andrew ******
 I honestly don't think that would work and I would never take the the chance.
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Tony *********
@Andrew ******
 you don't have to prove the funds came from abroad.
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Andrew *******
@Tony ********
 just show 800k in your account before applying for your retirement visa?
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Tony *********
@Andrew ******
 yes. It will have to be sitting in the account for two months before you apply for the extension the first time. The following year it is three months
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@Tony ********
 why are some people saying it’s got to come from overseas?
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Tony *********
@Andrew ******
 you are correct. The monthly pension income must come from overseas. However when I got a non O Visa inside Thailand on the back of a 30-day exemption entry I did not have to prove the 800k came from outside. It came from a Thai Bank. But in fact there is no financial requirement to obtain a Non O in the first place it is only when you use it to get a one-year extension based on retirement that you need to prove funds. And when I did that I just had to show the funds in the bank account no proof that they came from overseas. I've been doing this for 20 years.
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@Tony ********
 t that’s a relief, thanks.

So one can come in on the 30 day exemption visa and convert that into a Retirement visa. That’s good to hear.
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Tony *********
@Andrew ******
 If you get a non O overseas you have to provide more information about finances including a background criminal check. If you get it in Thailand there are no such requirements. I converted my 30-day exemption then put the 800k in my account let it seed for 2 months and then I applied for the yearly extension based on retirement.
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Chris ********
@Tony ********
 I came in on a 90 day Non O in January which i applied for, and got in 4 days, using a building society statement showing the equivalent of 800,000 baht in the UK. Non OA needs the criminal check not the Non O. I opened a bank account when I got here, transferred the money and will be going to get my first stamp at the end of march
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@Tony ********
 thanks heaps.
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Geoff **********
@Andrew ******
 If you use 800k banked money for an extension of stay it does not have to come from outside Thailand. However if you are using 65k per month (12 months) then the money has to be transfered from outside Thailand. Also if you apply for a nonO retirement VISA inside Thailand then the 800k banked money mist come from outside Thailand.
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Sam *********
I think honestly rules change changwat to changwat...nothing seems uniform
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Nick ************
And you need a letter from the bank certifying it has been there for the required length of time. Did mine on Wednesday it cost 100 baht. If you need to update book on day top up phone with 100 baht first.
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Jeff *********
@Nick ***********
 got a printout and certificate page proving my kasikorn account and it was ฿300.
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Nick ************
@Jeff ********
 mine was 100 baht.
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Jeff *********
@Nick ***********
 just my luck, lol
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Nick ************
@Steve ******
 the o a Visa is usually obtained in your home country. If you apply for the non o in Thailand what I have said is correct.
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Nick ************
@Steve ******
 you getv15 months for the first time if you adopt the right procedure. I can show you the stamps in my passport if you want.
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Steve *******
@Nick ***********
 Yep, 90 days with the Non Imm O visa and 1 year extention of stay. Total 15 months. For the 90 day Non Imm O visa NO seasoning of 800,000 is required.
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Nick ************
@Steve ******
 that is what I have been saying all along. But for the renewal the account must show
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for three months and not go below
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0 during the year. It must then be topped up to
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0 at least 3 months before expiry.
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@Nick ***********
 Yes. Only when you apply for the yearly extention. When you apply for the first 90 day Non Imm O visa there are NO requirements to season the 800,000. That's what the 90 days are for. The OP is applying for the visa NOT the extention of stay so he's NOT required to season the 800,000. Doh!
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Nick ************
@Steve ******
 so you admit that the 90 days are for seasoning the funds as I have been saying all along. You are getting it slowly.
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Steve *******
@Nick ***********
 Jeez. You DONT need to season the funds for the VISA. The visa gives you 90 days to season the funds. The OP wants the VISA, he doesnt need to season his 800,000 to get the visa. You claimed he needed to season his funds for the visa, he doesnt. How hard can it be for you to understand the difference between a visa and an extention of stay.
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Nick ************
@Steve ******
 how hard is it for you to read? I have been saying that all along and you keep arguing. Maybe you enjoy it but I'm done.
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Nick ************
@Steve ******
 That is exactly what I said! Doh!
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@Nick ***********
 That's for the yearly extention of stay. There's NO seasoning of funds for the Non Imm O visa.
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Nick ************
@Steve ******
 I'm afraid you are wrong. First time application gives 3 months to get the required cash into bank account for two months before getting 12 month extension.
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0 baht for retirement and
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0 for marriage. On renewal the
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must have been left there for three months and not go below
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0 during the year. It must be topped up to
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0 st least 2 months prior to renewal.
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@Nick ***********
 Nah, you're mistaken, the 2 months seasoning is for the yearly extention of stay. There's NO seasoning for the Non Imm O visa, only proof that the 800,000 was transferred from abroad. You're getting visas and extentions of stay mixed up!
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Tony *********
@Steve ******
 No such proof is required that the 800k funds came from abroad.
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Scot *******
@Tony ********
 - in Bangkok they did require proof the funds came from overseas to get the non o.
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Nick ************
@Steve ******
 for the non o 90 days you can show funds in home country account. For the 12 month extension you have to show them in Thai account.
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@Nick ***********
 Only if you apply for the Non Imm O visa in your home Country. If you apply in Thailand the 800,000 must be in a Thai bank.
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Nick ************
@Steve ******
 the 90 days is given so that you can get the required funds into a thai bank because it is then easier to get a thai bank account.
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@Nick ***********
 Normally the visa is obtained before you enter Thailand, thus giving you 90 days to season the funds before you apply for the yearly 'extention of stay', it also gives you 90 days if you apply in Country. You cant get the extention without first having held a Non Imm visa.
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Tony *********
@Steve ******
 You can go straight from a 30 day tourist extension to a Non O at Immigration in Thailand. Better to do it here than overseas. Then convert the Non O.to a retirement extentsion after seeding the 800k. That's exactly what I did.
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Kool *******
Yes, and your bank book must be updated on the day you apply.
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John *******
@Kool ******
 I did an update on a machine outside the bank after transfering money in and the machine update had a date stamp.
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Nityo *********
@Kool ******
 . Not just update but do a deposit first to ensure that day's date is recorded. Updates only show the last transaction date, which is not that day's date but a previous one, unless you make a deposit. I speak from recent experience 😉
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Nick ************
@Nityo ********
 just top up phone 100 baht.
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Ken ********
@Nityo ********
 I had to do that too and get a letter of deposit. Been with the bank 12 years, I cant remember ever getting this letter before
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Stuart **********
@Nityo ********
 very true, you must make a deposit or withdrawal on the day of application for the bankbook to be updated correctly
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Kool *******
@Stuart *********
 anyone that banks regularly knows that ..hehe
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John **********
Yes
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Bryn ********
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Thaaanks.
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