Answered4 months ago
Is it worth giving up a DTV for a Non-B visa when considering a local job in Thailand?
I have DTV and was recently offered a local job with short term contract. Is it worth to give up DTV for Non-B?
Answer summary
A user inquired whether it is advisable to relinquish their Digital Tourist Visa (DTV) for a Non-B visa due to a short-term local job opportunity. The conversation highlights concerns regarding visa denial risks, especially since the user previously mentioned earning money online during a visa-exempt entry, which is against immigration rules. Participants emphasized the need to comply with visa regulations and advised seeking proper documentation and possibly employing immigration services for better chances of approval. They also discussed the discretionary nature of immigration officers in determining entry even with a valid visa.
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Samgan *********
Does the 20k needs to be cash or in a bank account?
Greg ***********
do you have a visa which fits the purpose of your stay in Thailand ?
Jodie ********
If it helps, a friend of mine was denied entry earlier this year due to too many visa exemption stamps but got a DTV visa a month or so later and had no trouble coming into the country with it.
Russell *******
Apply for DTV 72 HOURS before departure
Arihant *********
AFAIK the immigration experience and requirements are exactly same as tourist visa entry. It has a longer validity but it is still a usual no-emplyment non-immigrant visa. Keep 20k baht, hotel bookings/apartment, means to go back within 6 months, a reason why you need to be in the country for that long. This isn't a temporary residence.
Max *******
u will not even get DTV haha
Hans *************
That's the thing with Thailand, you never know. Even if you've followed all rules it is up to an individual immigration officer and what mood he is in today.
Mike ******
You are very forgiving. There's plenty of places will snatch your hand off in Asia. If Thailand doesn't want you, go to Vietnam; just as lovely and half as cheap.
JoyfulPer**********
I know someone who was approved with a DTV, yet he got rejected from entering Thailand. What I learned is that an approved DTV doesn't mean anything unless you come face to face with an immigration officer.
PS: He was working online in Thailand for 6 months until they found out, how they found out, only God knows.
PS: He was working online in Thailand for 6 months until they found out, how they found out, only God knows.
Rina *******
It's important to comply with all visa requirements to avoid unnecessary complications. You must complete a 90-day report, and late reporting may result in a ฿2,000 fine and require you to report in person at immigration. When completed on time, the report can usually be submitted online.
You are also required to leave the country every six months and maintain the required minimum balance in your bank account.
You are also required to leave the country every six months and maintain the required minimum balance in your bank account.
MagentaGo**********
Depends on why you’re refusing entry last time. The officer still have the right to refuse your entry even you have valid visa.
จัก ***********
There has been reported cases where holders of a DTV Visa have still been interrogated by immigration. Its like playing roukette
Dan **********
Having a visa approved is not a guarantee that the immigration officer on the day won’t deny you for their own reasons.
I had that happen. I had to leave with a black mark (one year visa was mistakenly issued as not multiple entry, leading to a technical overstay). I explained and appealed the case with my local embassy, who then granted me a replacement visa. But that new embassy visa was not honoured when I returned and I was rejected on arrival.
I had that happen. I had to leave with a black mark (one year visa was mistakenly issued as not multiple entry, leading to a technical overstay). I explained and appealed the case with my local embassy, who then granted me a replacement visa. But that new embassy visa was not honoured when I returned and I was rejected on arrival.
Bee *****
when was your last visit as of the 17th 2 days ago you were in pattaya so you posting old stuff or bs*ing, though it sounds like your denied because your going to many times in a years time with leaving and coming back and staying the max stay. so im sure you gotta stay out of the country longer then your doing
Greg ***********
Bee Jay does he have a visa which fits the purpose of hisd stay in Thailand ? Obviously not
Darren *******
Bee Jay he was denied because he told Immigration Officers he was earning money online whilst trying to enter visa exempt.
JoyfulPer**********
@James *********
why are you so hostile toward a question being asked? OP just asked "IF" he will get denied aware to the fact that he was denied. Were you abused as a child? I hope not.
Michał *******
They always have to inform why denied
Rodger **********
AI is being implemented thru out the government….everything is transparent …..
Driving*******
If your DTV got approved. They will have no reason to deny your entry. Just to be sure, prepare your paperworks and see if you can get a vip lane. Don't listen to those ikae that don't answer your question.
Simon *******
Its morons like you have fked things up by abusing the system you fkwit
Andrew ********
Simon James from two sentences, he is the reason the entire system got screwed up. I bet you didn’t read the reason he got denied.
Simon *******
Andrew Patron the dk said he was coming to make money on line
AC *****
i think your be on a banned list
Russ **********
AC Cox if he is he would already know that... anyway the only thing sort of in his favour was that he was honest about it!!
Syed *****************
DTV is not very easy . You must fulfill all conditions
Alexey **********
DTV visa is not a warranty but it is a possibility to stay. Yes DTV is better than visa exempt stamp. Your last problem is not a fatal reason for future visas and visits. Try.
Periklis ***************
Yes
Darryl ******
Long gone of the days of Thailand being welcoming unless you're rich and prepared to waste your money. Pick a different south east Asian country. Same same but welcoming
Brian ***********
Denied , YES
Miyamoto *********
Wasting your money buddy.
Matthew *********
It really doesn't matter at the end of the day the IO will do what ever they because they are not held to higher standard of their own laws like countries of Japan or Korea where they don't work by the mood of the day or take bribes using agency. You want a guarantee use an agency for safe entry or be prepared for the IO on her rag and denies you
Hǝınz ***********
For what reason were you denied entry?
Taffy *******
I'd kick out all vloggers and influencers from Thailand especially that stupid, bullshittng twat Rob Hourmont
Peter ********
Yeah their crap only diminishes Thailand . Doesn’t help tourism . 5 second geniuses spreading false information
Taffy *******
Peter Kortum To right it doesn't mate
DorkyB******
They will ask to see your social media and when they see your FB name you will immediately be turned around again
Patricia **************
DorkyBuffalo so...if it were let's say a DorkyBuffalo😅🥴 they would surely let you in?
Martin ***********
visa is no guarantee for entry -
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Craig **********
No
Lye **********
Visa approval doesn't guarantee admission to a country. It still depends on the IO.
Dean *********
We can't tell you if we don't know why you were denied entry
Paul ***********
Dean Russell Yes, its like say Im hungry, what can I eat. Stupidity.
Adventuro**********
The OP posted, he truthfully told the IO, he was working online while in Thailand, presumably on a non-work visa or DTV. Thus was Denied Entry. This information is now in the system. I think he may be burnt in Thailand, for now.
Brendan *******
🤦♂️
Les ********
Sigh
Tom ********
I sense exasperation
Anthony ******************
country of passport? Why were you refused? They will have your details on the computer and your arrival card? What did you do when entry refused?
Karl *******
If they didn't like something about your entry the last time, they may dislike the same thing when you apply, and you'll need to say that you were previously denied entry.
It would help to know why you were denied. Was it too many visa waiver entries and border bounces?
It would help to know why you were denied. Was it too many visa waiver entries and border bounces?
Lhiling ********************
They need your entry money..if you have problem use an agent for express entry
Ian *****
Depends why denied before, but that should also be assessed before DTV is approved. So in theory will be OK
Luit *****************
Ian Hay As far as I know MFA does not have your previous history, because that is in Immigration system, so not easy accessible by embassy.
Anthony ******************
Luit van der Linde Wrong
James ********
Use an express entry service if you are that paranoid.
James **********
You don’t get denied entry for no reason,,, you obviously have been taking the piss , so now your using a agent for a DTV and you think that will stop being denied entry 5555 head in the sand
David **********
@James *********
Read the question. it starts with if. Depending on circumstances, they may, in rare case refuse to grant the Visa. Once granted, he will be ok entry. All immigration files are link to the same central computer now which has an automatic abuse pattern recognition. That is why so many abuser get caught out.James **********
David Perrelet your delusional read the post again it doesn’t say if it says I was refused entry,,, head in the sand
JoyfulPer**********
David Perrelet you hit the nail, lots of abusers will now get caught
Tore *********
Nobody can know for sure. It depends on your thai immigration history, why you got denied last time and the mood of the immigration officer on entry.
A DTV (and good documentation), dressed/groomed well and perhaps immigration fast track would certainly improve your odds significantly
A DTV (and good documentation), dressed/groomed well and perhaps immigration fast track would certainly improve your odds significantly
Paul ********
Am not being naive (I assure you) but WHY are people being denied when they clearly MUST know the updated requirements and the fact that immigration are somewhat hot at the moment......if you've more than few Visa exempt entries get that SETV or METV .....People are applying for this DTV knowing full well they dont meet the requirements applying for soft option cookery classes etc which people know are bullshit.....if you're getting booted despite having a SETV then something is flashing up against that IO screen as you arrive
John **********
@Melissa ******
Both can be asked to show the 20k
Jay ****
Paul Thomas people are idiots. Theyre either too lazy to read the requirements or they think they are special and can apply the requirements as THEY see fit. I see constant whinning about the cash requirement that's been in place for decades but only recently enforced and people thinking the black and white requirements don't mean "them" or it's too expensive. 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 if 20k baht is too much to carry in cash they need to stay home in mommies basement.
John **********
@Paul *******
there's not a huge difference between a visa exempt entry and a standard tourist visa entry, both are designed for short term tourism and not for living in Thailand
Ja***
@John *********
There is a pretty big difference when it comes to being denied entry. Denial of entry while holding a valid visa is extremely rare compared to visa exempt.Paul ********
@John *********
Incorrect and I made this point elsewhere the other day.....when you apply for a SETV you have to provide bank statements proof of flights hotels etc in advance.....you are vetted as obviously they can see from Passport what previous entries you've had and when......now if that Immigration website (because thats what it is) approves your application and issues a SETV what effectively happens is that an IO at port of entry is now saying my colleagues are idiots and he/she losing huge face now a complete no no in Thai society...now I agree that IO have final say but in 36 years I have never heard of anyone with a SETV approved in advance being rejected.....there will be a reason like turning up like a tramp you see it every day in those immigration lines and the IO taking an immediate dislike to the traveller
Christopher **********
Paul Thomas, being denied at entry does not mean that they are saying that their colleagues are idiots (necessarily). They can also be altering the decision based on the in person presentation that the embassy did not have. If the SETV holder tells the IO that they are planning to do volunteer work, which is work, during their visit (or any other violation of their visa), the decision to deny entry is based on the person stating they won’t abide by the terms of their visa rather than the judgement and sanity of their colleagues.
Deepak *******
Paul Thomas a visa is not a guarantee of entry. IOs have absolute authority to deny you entry. Do you know how many entries are denied by the US to visa holders? They don't say that colleagues in the embassies are idiots to give the person a visa.
Janek **********
to be safe have 20,000 THB to show or equivalent
Evo ********
@Janek *********
certainly
Temel ********
No
Paul ********************
Depends why you were denied entry, a visa entry is still subject to descretion of the IO
Evo ********
Paul Anthony McDermott several times being in Thailand and long stays and when they asked the reason I said I’m making money online (so thats why I’m getting DTV)
Fleace ********
@Evo *******
At this point you have nothing to lose but the application fee. I say apply, but make sure all your paper work is 100% in order. If it is really worth it to you, hire an immigration lawyer like Siam Legal. They will not take your are case if you are unqualified for the visa. I would start there.
Juan *********
@Evo *******
Idiot.Simon *******
@Evo *******
what a muppet 😆 you will now be on there radar
Luc ************
@Evo *******
your DTV wil not be approved. Ad when it is, the IO will probably send you back because he still can refuse you. 555
Daniel **********
@Evo *******
if that is the case don’t bother returning as you will not get in.I overstayed by one day and nearly got sent home. If you overstay and they believe it was intentional then you are not wanted here and have no chance. I can’t even leave until I sort my visa. The customs are viscous.
Hans *********
Daniel E Kelly yeah was flying to Cambodia end of 60 days, last day, got a parasite , felt horrible still left don't want any problems, never overstay
Adventuro**********
@Evo *******
You probably need to find another country to make money online in.Paul ********************
@Evo *******
so you admitted to working.. That's why you were denied
Siggi *******
Paul Anthony McDermott you can work remotely on any visa or without
UginTh******
@Evo *******
you came to Thailand without a Visa and told the IO you were entering the country to make money!? There’s your answer.
Ant ***********
No
Brandon ************
With a long term visa, you should not have any issues entering Thailand.
Evo ********
@Brandon ***********
some agencies said I might still need vip lane because of deniedGreg ***********
@Evo *******
do you have a visa which fits the purpose of your stay in Thailand ?Brendan *******
Why was u denied
Den *****
@Evo *******
Heard that VIP lane has ceased as of Tuesday..but I may be wrong.. Do check again...Patricia **************
Den Den Oh yeah, good to know..
SageLyc*******
Den Den this is correct
Brandon ************
@Evo *******
just keep your paperwork with you to show you're meeting the requirements of the DTV.Activity
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