Is it possible to apply for a DTV visa while in Japan on a visit visa?

@James *********

What are you talking about? The CAM fees of a condo unit?

LTR is 45k THB for 10 years, investment visa about 4k per year incl. re-entry permit.

Don Smith

I’m 81 and reading the comments some of which make a lot of sense. I should probably give you more information on us. I found your comments more informative. Yes, $80,000 passive income a high standard especially if it has to comes from one person which I was unsure of, so it looks more like an “e visa “ will be our only choice. Since we file as a married couple it’s impossible to show passive income without moving assets to one person. After our home sale the interest income and our SS would meet passive income requirements but not for one person. I don’t even mind paying the $38,000 dollars for 5 years, who knows what the Thai government will come up with next.

Our condos are now ready after and very extensive remodel into one unit, We have always had a high standard of living but now taking a more serious approach and planning on daily domestic help for the everyday chores. I am looking at this as a second retirement. This would be the first time living in a small condo and not a huge house. The freedom of having no need for a vehicle and Pratumnak has everything we need close by. We needed to down size but not ready for a retirement home. Some people we know spent $900,000 to buy in a retirement village and on top of that still pay $2800 a month for extras services. My wife favors that alternative , I don’t.

My daughter in law lives in the US and is now a citizen and enjoys living in the US. My son loves Thailand and visits 3-4 times a year. My son is very successful and travels to Thailand 3-4 times a year. They own now three condos in Pratumnak, wow have the chose of 4 pools. The freedom to enjoy maybe to last 5-6 years that I have left. Healthcare is the no 1 reason to us moving to Thailand, affordability number 2 two, 3 the food, and lastly the wonderful Thai people. Safety is also more important these days. I look at this as an adventure, meeting new people making new friends.

The only thing with an “e visa” we will have to apply for it while we are still in the US. This isn’t a problem because after selling our house in April we are in are summer home in Virginia, but I was wanting to leave next month. I will start the process once my son comes back from Switzerland. Hope this fills in some of the blanks and questions.

Thank you for your insight and understanding.

Todd McGowan The freedom to be scammed, robbed and defrauded? I'll pass.

Luckily I find it quite easy to keep other peoples' hands out of my pockets.

But many here seem to need help with putting their own shoes on, and as such are very easy prey to scammers.

Todd McGowan you retard ,,, give it up Karen

Todd McGowan That only applies if you have 80,000USD passive income per year. Some people have a lot of capital appreciation but little passive income, due to the way they arrange their finances. Some people simply would find it hard to gather proof of passive income because it is spread over several jurisdictions.

For them, the retirement extension is much easier and cheaper.

Christoph J. Stoecker One can get fast track by flying business class or for being over 70. So no advantage there. An immigration office at One Bangkok would not be very convenient for anyone living outside Bangkok, like I do. My immigration office is a short walk from where I live, as is my bank where I get my yearly bank letter.

And the rules and "benefits" for the Elite visa have changed several times since it was launched, always to the worse.

I do expect the conditions for my retirement extension to remain stable though, or for existing extension holders to be "grandfathered in" in case of changes.

To me the LTR, DTV and Elite offerings are much more nebulous, but we will see.

Dca Dca I struggle to see in what way the LTR requirements are clearer or more easy to fulfil than those for a non-O visa and annual extension are. As far as I know the Thai non-O and annual extension is the easiest procedure of its type for retirees in the world. I certainly find it very easy.

Todd McGowan Well, you're completely wrong but that's fine as it's not my money and not my problem.

I know someone who got an LTR visa recently; it took him months and required a lot of documentation that was quite hard for him to obtain. Even the investment side of it was hard, as indeed has been mentioned in this topic. I get a very similar result for well under two hours very minimal effort once a year, and 2,000B total cost, all for just 800,000B (25,000USD) deposited in a standard interest-bearing Thai bank term deposit in my own name. As far as I can see, the LTR will cost a minimum of 5,000B per year over ten years and requires at least 350,000USD deposited/spent (including a deposit for self-insurance), assuming you do it all yourself. So nearly 15 times my deposit. Using an agent would add a lot to that initial cost. I use the word "spent" carefully as I would hesitate to call buying Thai property for 250,000USD an investment, and I certainly would never get personally involved with any sort of business in Thailand under any circumstances.

And if that two hours was too much for me (it isn't), I could just pay a few thousand Baht to someone else to do it for me. Getting my retirement extension certainly isn't so complicated that I have to ask any questions about it on Facebook. In fact it's a doddle.

Tax isn't an issue for me at all as all my capital was acquired before 2024. There are other workarounds that can be applied to that also. So the LTR tax concession, while real, is of no real value.

Ron Henning

Christoph J. Stoecker I’m good on being a landlord just to make a fraction of what I can parking my money in stocks

Christoph J. Stoecker Hilarious to assume I would ever be that dumb. My money stayed steady growing in USA stocks - no thanks. 🤣

Christoph J. Stoecker no

Dca Dca you misunderstood, the original poster said he had Ss more than 10x this.

Fizul Bacchus And WHO are you to decide what she says.