Is a TM6 card required when applying for a Non-O visa based on income in Thailand?

Mar 30, 2018
7 years ago
Richard *********
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Hello, i have a question, if applying for a non o visa based on income, is the tm6 card required? I was looking to book a one way ticket, thanks in advance
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The discussion revolves around whether the TM6 departure card is necessary when applying for a Non-O visa based on income in Thailand. While it's noted that the TM6 is obtained upon arrival, there are differing opinions on its necessity for applying for a visa or extension. Some users suggest that it may not be required for specific immigration processes, but others emphasize its importance based on the immigration office's discretion. The conversation also touches on the implications of traveling with a one-way ticket versus a round-trip ticket and the requirements for proving income for visa applications.
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Dave **********
Immigration (passport control) here won't care.
Dave **********
You may need an exit flight if you are coming in on a visa exempted entry. The check-in counter when you board your flight is where that comes up. They may refuse to board you or they may require you to sign a waiver protecting them from liability if you are denied entry.
Richard *********
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Dave Bakewell ok, thanks dave, i was not sure if i had to have an exit flight or not
Dave **********
It has nothing to do with having a return /exit ticket.
Dave **********
You get the TM6 on the flight in. It is the 2nd
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of the entry card and the number on it is matched to the entry card.
Richard *********
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@Tod ********
sorry was not clear, i am intending to come to thailand on the tourist stamp, then apply in jomtien for the 90 day non 0 visa, initially i was going to use the income affidavit letter obtained in bkk, but now i am thinking to use the
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0 requirement option. For first 90 day non o visa, can i show proof of
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0 baht(25,000-27,000 us) equivalent in a us bank, showing last 6 months of balance and such to satisfy requirement for 90 non o "retirement" visa and then 1 year extension? Then following year have the required 800,000 baht in a thai bank to apply for a second one year extension?
Tod *********
Okay, you can use the income affidavit to meet the requirements for both the 90 day Non-O and the yearly extension. Some offices copy and stamp the income affidavit so you only need one to do both the Non-O and the year extension but some offices make you get one for each step.
Tod *********
While the advice given by all is interesting, I think we need to ask the O/P to clarify are they getting the "retirement visa" from a thai consulate in their country BEFORE they wing their way here

OR

Are they coming here and then going to apply for the 90 day Non-O and the yearly extension.

Those two things cannot be compared and the advice to do one does not help you do the other.

So
@Richard ********
, what are you intending to do? Get the visa BEFORE you come here or come here and then start down the road to getting the visa and extension?
Richard *********
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@Tod ********
, yes, thanks Tod, that is what i was referring to. i was thinking maybe i could book a one way ticket to Thailand. But as a tm.6 departure card is required, i will need to book a round trip ticket. thanks to everyone for your input.
Richard *********
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@Ken ********
, yes, 3-4 months to go, just have to sell off a few things here😀
Ken *********
Please be sure that your passport has 18 months left on it. Otherwise, renew passport before beginning process.
Ken *********
@Richard ********
Welcome to this strange and magical place. Hope your dreams come true.
Richard *********
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Ken Abelson ok, thank you ken for the advice very much
Ken *********
Richard Staples Funds must be in a Thai bank 2 months for your initial application and 3 months for each yearly extension. You will initially get 90 days. You must extend to one year before your 90 days is up, when there is still 30 days left on initial visa. You don't need to prove anything about its source. If you are asked if you are working, the answer is no.

You will need a special kind of notarized statement from the Thai bank with their seal on it. It has a short shelf life (7 days). So, this must be procured just before applying. I advise bringing your specific request to the bank, written in Thai, to save time.
Richard *********
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ken abelson just a question if using the
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0 baht in a thai bank for extension, if you just have it in a thai bank for 3 months is that enough? or do you have to prove that it was wired in from overseas? Or can you can just show you have the funds in a us bank?
Ken *********
You are applying first time at an embassy or consulate. Got it. Good idea to bring some evidence of regular monthly income dating back 6 months from present.

Also, you will want to declare a monthly income in your own currency (such as US dollars). Don't declare an income that is borderline because exchange rates can vary widely and put you below 65,000 baht a month after calculating exchange rate. Thus, make sure you have room for that.
Steve *******
@Richard ********
you dont actually have to fill out the departure card untill you leave the country.
Ken *********
You may be asked for a Thai bank book or bank statement from Thai bank. In theory, affidavit is enough. In practice, IO can ask for bankbook or bank statement from a Thai bank, even using the income method. They can ask for anything; it's up to discretion of immigrations officer.
Richard *********
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ken abelson, yes ken, that is a very good idea
Ken *********
Book a flight that allows you to cancel (with refund) the return flight. Everyone happy.
Richard *********
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Steve Greir, but if i get a one way ticket, i will not have flight number to put on departure card for departure as i would not have outgoing flight, is that not correct?
Steve *******
You'll get an arrival/departure card flying in on a one way ticket. The issue is more wether the airline will allow you to board with a one way ticket.
Tod *********
Are you sure you're asking about the right TM thing?

I mean this is a TM.6 arrival/departure card.
Tod *********
Okay, if you're applying for a 90 day Non-O at a thai consulate OUTSIDE the country you don't need a copy of your TM.6 arrival/departure card because you wouldn't have one (seeing as you gave it up when you stamped out of thailand.)

IF you are applying for a 90 day Non-O visa at the thai immigration office INSIDE the country you DO need a copy of the TM.6 departure card.
Biff *******
It’s required for leaving the country.
Richard *********
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actually, i was not planning on coming back to the us, so just need to know if required for extension
Biff *******
You’ll still get the departure card on a one way flight. It’s attached to the arrival card and left in your passport when you get stamped in. You only have to fill it out when you’re leaving the country.
Richard *********
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yes, over 50, applying with income affidavit of pension over
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baht a month. Then will apply for one year extension based on income, just was wondering if needed the tm6 departure card, or could just book a one way ticket
Danny *********
@Dave *********
You said: IS needed EVERY time you go to immigration for anything. Went for TM30 and residence certificates and although it is written on the forms, you can just leave it blank. It problably is just obsolete now for immigration.
Danny *********
@Dave *********
For the record, no tm6 needed for Thai driving licenses, at least in Chonburi. ;)
Danny *********
Dave Bakewell Not really, I lost my tm6 in the airport itself and got my TM30 and residence certificates without it. I asked and they said no need, get a new one at airport when you leave the country. This is for Jomtien immigration, other ones can have different rules. Tomorrow I'll go for my driving license, hopefully they also say: no need. ;-)
Dave **********
You get the TM6 card when you fly in. It is part of the arrival/departure card that you fill in when you enter.

It is usually placed or stapled into your passport when you go through passport control and IS needed EVERY time you go to immigration for anything.
Steve *******
@Richard ********
I think you'll need a departure card to leave the country. Maybe other members of the group can confirm if that's a yes or no.
Richard *********
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i read in an earlier post, a member was going to renew his one year extension and mentioned he had his tm6 , just wanted to know if immigration would require it
Steve *******
If you're in the SEA region it shouldnt be a problem
Steve *******
That all depends on the airline and where you're flying from
Steve *******
Im dont think you can get a non imm O based only on income. Are you applying based on being over 50 or marriage? Also it would help if you mention your nationality and where you're applying.
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