How can my son obtain a Residence Certificate from Krabi Immigration on a visa exemption?

Oct 2, 2024
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Dan *********
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Could someone please let me know how easy it is to get a Residence Certificate from the Krabi Immigration Office if on visa exemption?

My son is arriving into Thailand next week and is planning to stay on Koh Lanta for the high season. He'll be coming in on visa exemption (he's a UK resident), so he's planning to do 60 days with 30 day extension followed by a border run/flight to Malaysia to get another 60+30 days. He'll leave Thailand after that.

He's looking for Residence Certificate so he can get a Thai driving licence for motorbikes and legally ride a motorbike/scooter whilst there. He has a UK licence for cars and IDP, but no motorbike licence. The AirBnB he's staying at have already said that they will register and give him a TM30 upon arrival.

Unfortunately, I've read so many things over the past week or so, that I'm totally confused!

Can he get a Residence Certificate with just a TM30 on a visa exemption at Krabi or does he need to file a 90-day report (TM48 I think?), which he won't be able to do, seeing as he'll have to leave before 90 days are up. From what I've read, it seems that getting a Residence Certificate can be hard in Bangkok, but can be easier in other provinces/at other Immigration Offices. I haven't been able to find any info on the Krabi IO, hence the question.

Would it be easier if he used an agent to help with the whole process? Can they help to expedite things? If yes, any recommendations on who to use?

The easiest thing to do would be to pass his motorbike test in the UK but he doesn't have time to do this before travelling. He has done a CBT course in UK, but I understand that has no value in Thailand when it comes to riding motorbikes.

The alternatives include renting a car, buying a bicycle - but these aren't really long term options for him. He doesn't want to ride illegally without a motorbike licence (even if loads of other people seem to), as this could end up turning ugly if he ended up in an accident!!

Just trying to help him do things the right way, so any help is much appreciated. Thanks
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TLDR : Answer Summary
The process for obtaining a Residence Certificate from the Krabi Immigration Office while on a visa exemption can be challenging. The individual is seeking clarity on whether a TM30 form, which is to be provided by the AirBnB for temporary accommodation registration, is sufficient for securing the Residence Certificate, as it appears that a 90-day report (TM48) may not be feasible given the planned short stay. Experiences vary by location, with some suggesting that it might be easier to obtain such certificates in regions like Pattaya, while others express uncertainty about Krabi's specific requirements. It might be advisable to hire an agent to navigate the process, although no specific recommendations for Krabi were given. Ultimately, without a formal motorbike licence, riding legally could be complex, leading to alternatives such as purchasing an electric bike or using public transport.
Luc ************
First thing to do, start a gofundme page.
Dan *********
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@Luc ***********
not needed as insurance cover is not an issue bizarrely enough! The travel insurance he has provides him with full medical cover in case of any accident on a motorbike, just as long as he has completed a CBT course in UK (which he has), he is wearing a helmet (he will be) and the motorbike is <125cc. It wouldn't cover him for any 3rd party liability though, in case he was at fault. Being a farang, I understand that he almost definitely would be deemed to be at fault, irrespective of whether he actually was or not!
Jonnie *******
Maybe worthwhile him checking up on but I understand he can get an IDP lasting 1 year before leaving UK, legally he can drive whatever classification on his IDP, I think the IDP entitles the holder to drive up to 90 days at any one time , this should be ok as he’ll be exiting and rendering on 90 days.

I was turned away from trying to sit a driving test in Philippines a few years back, the staff at the test center told me that since I wasn’t gonna be in country longer than the 90 days (even though I told them I’d be back) they said my IDP would suffice and a ph driving license not needed.
Steven *******
@Jonnie ******
He won’t be able to get an IDP with the required motorcycle endorsement because he doesn’t have a motorcycle license in the UK.
Dan *********
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@Jonnie ******
he has his IDP - it's valid for 2 years. The problem is his licence doesn't have motorbike entitlement beyond the AM category, which isn't recognised in Thailand. He can drive a car over there on his IDP for 90 days at a time, which as you say is reset after a border run or flight in/out.
Damo ******
Yes he can get a residence certificate with TM30 whilst on visa exemption, certainly here in Pattaya, I think Krabi should be the same. If he wants to be 100% legal he would have to take a motorcycle test here in Thailand.
Graham ******
@Damo *****
Not necessarily the same, each Office have their own requirements which can vary greatly
Andy **********
You say he has a full UK car license, Does it have "basic motorcycle entitlement" ?? If so, together with an IDP, it can be converted into full Thai car and motorcycle licences, by attending the DLT and completing a simple reaction and colour blind test, lots of agents can assist, I'm speaking from experience, not just guessing like most of these commenting.
Andy **********
My UK car license has got "A" and "AM" I've never done a CBT course, I did mine a few months ago in Pattaya, at the chonburi DLT on a tourist visa, with the assistance of an agent, they also assisted me with opening a bank account, the only question they asked was does your licence have "basic motorcycle entitlement" they said that is all you need, to convert it into full Thai car and motorcycle licences, and said I need 30 days or more on my visa to open the bank account, but sorry a don't have any knowledge of Krabi immigration or DLT, if your local just go and make some enquiries, they usually give you a list of requirements, there should be a local agent that can help you out if your struggling.
Dan *********
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@Andy *********
his licence has the AM category entitlement which allows him to legally ride motorbikes up to 125cc on the road after completing a Compulsory Basic Training course, or only 50cc without doing the CBT. He's done his CBT.

However, nobody (so far) has said whether or not he can get the Residency Certificate in Krabi as that is the main sticking point, as far as I see it. He's more than happy to do all the tests (either at the government centre, driving school or Honda bike centre) if he can get the RC sorted
Terary **********
You a good father to do all this for your son. Maybe its just better to drive him?
Dan *********
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@Terary *********
that'll be a little bit difficult considering I'll be on the other side of the world!
Michael *********
Buy an E bike off Lazada (Thai Amazon), sell it when he leaves. Ko Lanta is mainly flat & is only 29x16km & you’ll be able to go places impossible on a Honda Click. H
Dan *********
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@Michael ********
thank you for this suggestion - not a bad one at all!
Malcolm *******
My advice is not to bother hiring a motorbike , although very convenient, it's the single most dangerous thing anyone can do in Thailand .

Thailand has one of the most dangerous road death rates in the world with well over
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people dying on the roads each year . I see serious accidents or very near misses every day due to the virtual non policing of the roads and a total lack of respect for any of the traffic laws .
Bonnie *********
@Malcolm ******
I've been in one of those. Not really dangerous, but hit by someone in a car running a stop sign. No help from the authorities, even though it was captured on film. My knee will never be right.
David *******
@Dan ********
you are to be commended on the completeness of your post and research. The big gap is that he doesn’t have his UK motorbike license and yes, he doesn’t have time to get it. Unfortunately this may be a tough lesson for him to do his preparation more thoroughly. There comes a time in our childrens lives when we as parents can no longer help and he must stand on his own two feet.
Dan *********
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@David ******
yes I fully agree, however, at the same time, we'll always want the best for our children and help them to avoid making any major mistakes!
Nongnuch ********
in Pattaya, he could easily get issued a motorcycle license with the help of an agent. I don't know if there are any agents offering this service in and around Krabi
Sylvia ********
@Nongnuch *******
I agrees many well established agents in Pattaya can help him
Dan *********
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@Sylvia *******
he's not going to be in Pattaya though! He's on Koh Lanta in Krabi province
Sylvia ********
@Dan ********
maybe needs a quick appointment in Pattaya as so easy, think southern islands are very different
Kim *********
@Nongnuch *******
really? and what would the agent do? take the exam for him? that's illegal
Nongnuch ********
@Kim ********
no, nothing illegal. The applicant needs to physically visit the DLT and still do the minimal tests there. Just visit the agent's website: Mot's or F.S. Consulting, they will help you, fully legal
Pete *******
@Nongnuch *******
he doesn’t have a home bike license, what can an agent do for him that’s legal to get a Thai bike license?
Nongnuch ********
@Pete ******
with the assistance of an agent, he can freshly make a Thai motorcycle license much easier than if he goes to the DLT by himself
Pete *******
@Nongnuch *******
the driving school will assist, no need agent.
Sylvia ********
@Pete ******
correct but takes time and queue
Kim *********
@Nongnuch *******
all right but what about the theory test?
Sam ********
From my research it would be easier just to get an International Drivers License before his trip
Alan **********
@Sam *******
Thai license is better , some cops won't ware it
Sam ********
@Alan *********
I'm aware of that, but if you are only going to be in Thailand a few months it seems like a lot of hassle to get a Thai license
Dan *********
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he will be staying 6 months more or less - (3 months, border run, 3 more months). In all honesty, if he had UK motorbike licence, then he wouldn't bother with a Thai licence as he would be covered with his IDP, and no need to go through all the hassle. He just won't be driving with no motorbike licence at all, so needs a solution to this if he wants to ride a motorbike over there
Nongnuch ********
@Sam *******
it doesn't cut any ice, he doesn't have a motorcycle license for the U.K., so an IDP won't allow him to ride a motorcycle
Sam ********
@Nongnuch *******
how hard is it to get a motorcycle license in the UK
Kim *********
@Sam *******
not enough time - said that in the post
Pete *******
If he doesn’t have a UK bike license he cannot legally ride a bike in Thailand. He would need to go to a Thai driving school and pass his test. Some DLT’s will only issue licenses to long term visa holders so entering on visa exempt will not cut it.
Todd *********
@Pete ******
of course he can. He doesn’t need to go to Thai driving school ffs. He just needs to go sit the test and get the license. He will need a residency certificate, (and medical) but that depends on local immigration to issue on visa exempt
Pete *******
@Todd ********
he does not have a home country bike license. How can he get a Thai bike license?
Dan *********
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From what I've read, he can either sit the test at the DLT or at a driving school (e.g. Honda driving course or other driving school). The driving school might be less hassle as it seems to be less waiting and maybe a better quality bike to do the practical test on (which looks pretty easy anyways), but either seem to be options.

The main question seems to be around the DLT granting him a licence if he can get the correct paperwork together, which I understand to be:

- Residence Certificate

- Medical Certificate

- Passport, copies of this & current visa (or visa exemption stamp - not 100% sure on this bit though)

Since posting last night, I've been in contact with an agent on Koh Lanta who helps with visa extensions, border runs etc and she has said that she could get him a Residence Certificate very quickly, as long as he has the right paperwork from his landlord, who has already agreed to provide everything he would need.

So, it seems that the main question is whether the DLT in Krabi will allow him to get a driving licence on a visa exemption, shortly after arriving in Thailand. If the answer to this is yes, then this will probably be the route to take.

If they won't, then he'll probably end up buying an eBike, which will still do c. 40-50 kph! It doesn't overcome the dangers of the roads in Thailand, although Koh Lanta is pretty easy going when it comes to traffic when compared to the likes of Phuket, Ao Nang/Krabi etc.

At least, I would be slightly more at ease as he would be legal to ride an eBike and fully insured, unless there's some weird law/rules that I'm not aware of regarding eBikes being considered as motorbikes in Thailand
Todd *********
@Pete ******
you just have to go sit the motorcycle exam. It varies by office if you need to write the test and complete the practical. I did it on Samui. But you don’t need to have a motorcycle license from home country at all
Pete *******
@Todd ********
so why are you disagreeing with me? My statement was clear, he needs to go to a Thai driving school and pass the test. That is the only way he can legally drive a bike in Thailand.
Todd *********
@Pete ******
because my statement is clear and your statement is clearly wrong. He doesn’t need to go to a school. As I clearly said.
Pete *******
@Todd ********
ok so same same but different. A driving school will train him to pass the test. Driving schools are authorised to issue pass certificates which he would then take to the DLT and convert into a license. Or he goes directly to the DLT without training to take the test and either passes or fails. Seriously nitpicking and which advice is preferable for the OP?
Todd *********
@Pete ******
jaysus lol. If YOU desperately need to attend classes and waste two days of your life, have at it 😂. It’s only your time and money. The vast majority of us prefer not to.
Pete *******
@Todd ********
hold on, you do realise we are not talking about reaction eyesight and brake tests right? We are talking full theory and practical tests, several hours long.
Dan *********
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@Pete ******
if he is able to get a Residency Certificate and the rest of the required paperwork, is there any reason why the DLT wouldn't let him sit the tests for a motorbike licence? I thought that, by having the documents (with RC being the key one), it should be purely procedural from that point onwards?
Graham ******
@Dan ********
All DLTs have their own requirements so he needs to go to his local DLT to get their list of requirements then see if he can meet them
Pete *******
He needs a visa to get a license at the DLT not just a residency certificate.
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